Sacajawea dollar coin series what do you think about it?

Panda4456

I really like the design from 2000-2008 however I don’t like materials the coin is made out of and I don’t like the size. I wish they were IKE dollar sized. I like the 2012 and 2014 designs and the rest look ugly. Do you think any of the lower mintage dates could appreciate in value in the future? Does anyone here collect them?

ms70

I like them as originally made and they should've left them as that.

P0CKETCHANGE

I have the 2015-W Enhanced Unc. for my type set example. I think it's an interesting design, and one of very few coins that show NYC, and perhaps the only one that shows the Empire State Building and Chrysler Building. Otherwise, I do not collect these at all although I am collecting the American Innovation dollar series.

AlanLastufka

I like the original design a lot, and some of the annual reverses have been good.

Here's a scan of the First Day of Issue coin cover I have. Both the obverse designer (Glenna Goodacre) and reverse designer (Thomas D. Rogers Sr) were kind enough to sign it for me.

Glenna sadly passed away last year (April 2020).

Thomas and I exchanged a few emails discussing his reverse design, which is one of my favorites of modern coins.

TurtleCat

They were sadly doomed to failure from the beginning as they didn’t force vending companies to accept them and simultaneously remove the dollar bill from circulation.

I think the half and dollar could regain some popularity given inflation if there were ready places to obtain and spend them.

I liked the original reverse well enough and the color change did make it more distinctive.

WAYNEAS

my favorite Sacagawea coins

MWallace

You could build a pretty large collection of just collecting types of finishes, first day of issue, signed slabs and other memorabilia signed by both designers and model, etc.

coinbuf

@TurtleCat said:
They were sadly doomed to failure from the beginning as they didn’t force vending companies to accept them and simultaneously remove the dollar bill from circulation.

I think the half and dollar could regain some popularity given inflation if there were ready places to obtain and spend them.

I liked the original reverse well enough and the color change did make it more distinctive.

Are you in the vending industry?

Oldhoopster

Put the date/mm back on the Obverse!! It doesn't belong on the rim. Just my opinion

TurtleCat

@coinbuf said:

@TurtleCat said:
They were sadly doomed to failure from the beginning as they didn’t force vending companies to accept them and simultaneously remove the dollar bill from circulation.

I think the half and dollar could regain some popularity given inflation if there were ready places to obtain and spend them.

I liked the original reverse well enough and the color change did make it more distinctive.

Are you in the vending industry?

Nope, not even close to that industry. I do know how my change has been spent, though, and a lot of it went into vending machines. As prices have gone up, the need for available higher denomination coinage was evident but it's too late now as people have bypassed the coins and gone to easy credit card charges.

Zoins

@AlanLastufka said:
I like the original design a lot, and some of the annual reverses have been good.

Here's a scan of the First Day of Issue coin cover I have. Both the obverse designer (Glenna Goodacre) and reverse designer (Thomas D. Rogers Sr) were kind enough to sign it for me.

Glenna sadly passed away last year (April 2020).

Thomas and I exchanged a few emails discussing his reverse design, which is one of my favorites of modern coins.

Congrats. With those signatures, that's an awesome, and now historic, envelope.

Also, at first, I thought those postmarks were toned coins!

Zoins

@TurtleCat said:

@coinbuf said:

@TurtleCat said:
They were sadly doomed to failure from the beginning as they didn’t force vending companies to accept them and simultaneously remove the dollar bill from circulation.

I think the half and dollar could regain some popularity given inflation if there were ready places to obtain and spend them.

I liked the original reverse well enough and the color change did make it more distinctive.

Are you in the vending industry?

Nope, not even close to that industry. I do know how my change has been spent, though, and a lot of it went into vending machines. As prices have gone up, the need for available higher denomination coinage was evident but it's too late now as people have bypassed the coins and gone to easy credit card charges.

At this point, they seem to be more coins primarily for collectors.

ms70

@TurtleCat said:

@coinbuf said:

@TurtleCat said:
They were sadly doomed to failure from the beginning as they didn’t force vending companies to accept them and simultaneously remove the dollar bill from circulation.

I think the half and dollar could regain some popularity given inflation if there were ready places to obtain and spend them.

I liked the original reverse well enough and the color change did make it more distinctive.

Are you in the vending industry?

Nope, not even close to that industry. I do know how my change has been spent, though, and a lot of it went into vending machines. As prices have gone up, the need for available higher denomination coinage was evident but it's too late now as people have bypassed the coins and gone to easy credit card charges.

A place I used to work at had a vending machine that took any coin up to $1 Sac, or bill up to $10. It only dispensed change in coins. If you wanted a $1.00 candy bar and had nothing but a $10 you got 9 Sacs in change. That was a complete fail in my book.

coinbuf

@TurtleCat said:

Nope, not even close to that industry. I do know how my change has been spent, though, and a lot of it went into vending machines. As prices have gone up, the need for available higher denomination coinage was evident but it's too late now as people have bypassed the coins and gone to easy credit card charges.

Ok well I am and your comment is way off base, vending machines can and do accept dollar coins and have for a vey long time. It is true that many who work in the field, like myself, dont want to see them used as it is a huge PTA. But that mostly has to do with the banks and how difficult they make it for us to deposit change in general.

You are correct that accepting CC is the way forward and much easier for us.

Zoins

@coinbuf said:
You are correct that accepting CC is the way forward and much easier for us.

CC is now the backend for all kinds of payment mechanisms like PayPal, ApplePay and Android Pay.

coinbuf

@Zoins said:

@coinbuf said:
You are correct that accepting CC is the way forward and much easier for us.

CC is now the backend for all kinds of payment mechanisms like PayPal, ApplePay and Android Pay.

Yes I'm well aware of that, my readers take all those as forms of pmt on goods, you can even use your apple watch.

It is very convenient to blame the vending industry for this but as I said the real roadblock is the banking industry and their desire to move everything to cashless/faceless transactions.

jedm

I loved the design the first time I saw it and began collecting them immediately for that reason. Because of the poor demand I believe as early as 2002 (?) we had to obtain them from the mint. I have been doing that ever since and saving a couple of the really nice ones for myself and spending and gifting the rest of them, mostly to children for birthdays etc. I have a Dansco complete with proofs and enjoy adding every year as they come out.
@WAYNEAS > The 2012 is my favorite reverse also.
@AlanLastufka >Very cool first day memento!

TurtleCat

@coinbuf said:

@TurtleCat said:

Nope, not even close to that industry. I do know how my change has been spent, though, and a lot of it went into vending machines. As prices have gone up, the need for available higher denomination coinage was evident but it's too late now as people have bypassed the coins and gone to easy credit card charges.

Ok well I am and your comment is way off base, vending machines can and do accept dollar coins and have for a vey long time. It is true that many who work in the field, like myself, dont want to see them used as it is a huge PTA. But that mostly has to do with the banks and how difficult they make it for us to deposit change in general.

You are correct that accepting CC is the way forward and much easier for us.

Maybe it is just the ones in my area. I have never seen one accept a dollar coin except at the post office. Perhaps in very large cities it’s different, though.

Mr_Spud

Do a search on eBay for rolls of them and you’ll find that some are going for over $100 per roll already, especially the more popular ones like 2012

Overdate

@Oldhoopster said:
Put the date/mm back on the Obverse!! It doesn't belong on the rim. Just my opinion

Mine too!! Removing the date from the obverse unbalanced the coin's appearance IMO. At least the Presidential dollars were designed from the start to have the date appear on the edge.

P0CKETCHANGE

@TurtleCat said:
Maybe it is just the ones in my area. I have never seen one accept a dollar coin except at the post office. Perhaps in very large cities it’s different, though.

Does your local Target or Walmart have self-checkouts? If so, they very likely accept dollar coins. The ones at Target near me also accept $2 bills.

Zoins

@P0CKETCHANGE said:

@TurtleCat said:
Maybe it is just the ones in my area. I have never seen one accept a dollar coin except at the post office. Perhaps in very large cities it’s different, though.

Does your local Target or Walmart have self-checkouts? If so, they very likely accept dollar coins. The ones at Target near me also accept $2 bills.

But we have a coin shortage!

Hydrant

Boring.

P0CKETCHANGE

@Hydrant said:
Boring.

There is no requirement to participate in the thread, last I checked.

Kurisu

I think the Sacagawea portrait is one of the best portraits on a coin ever. And the Liberty design feels like a modern classic with those huge empty fields I find it incredibly beautiful.

I also have a handful of 2000-P Mint rolls, the white and green ones which are the exact same type that that first Mule was found in!

I also agree that there is no reason for the date to be on the edge and it seems to be a miss-out on having more to make lovely on the coin.

I remember back in the day there was so much confusion about the SBA and then the Sacagawea dollars. I'm guessing there wasn't a very deep dive into what we would refer to as a "usability study" these days. It was strange and frustrating because back then we actually had needed to use our pocket change for things. My Grandma could not tell the difference between an SBA and a quarter and I remember that quite clearly lol!

The actual rationale of the coins designs and sizes was and is still somewhat lost on me. But I do find many of them as new favorites.

TurtleCat

@P0CKETCHANGE said:

@TurtleCat said:
Maybe it is just the ones in my area. I have never seen one accept a dollar coin except at the post office. Perhaps in very large cities it’s different, though.

Does your local Target or Walmart have self-checkouts? If so, they very likely accept dollar coins. The ones at Target near me also accept $2 bills.

I almost never go there but maybe I’ll check next time. My wife usually uses her red card.

DCW

@P0CKETCHANGE said:

@Hydrant said:
Boring.

There is no requirement to participate in the thread, last I checked.

Well, the OP asked

thefinn

Beautiful design with historical significance. It was doomed with the use of Manganese, and not eliminating the paper dollar. If they had printed more $2 bills like Canada had, it would have quieted all those that said that they didn't want to carry around a pocket full of coins.
The only one I see increasing in value are the 5,000 pieces that Goodacre received with the special finish.

oih82w8

I have one and that is enough for me.

2000-P SAC$1 "WOUNDED EAGLE" FS-901 MS66

Snaps

Mostly I am into the 2000-2008 set. I do have some rolls of the Native American coins also. I got this one yesterday. I paid more for shipping than I did the coin. I also like to add different plastic to my collection.

coinsarefun

I sold almost all of mine long ago. I started an album but gave up after a few years.
Besides a toned one for my type set I have an overstruck from Ron Landis.
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Panda4456

@coinsarefun said:
I sold almost all of mine long ago. I started an album but gave up after a few years.
Besides a toned one for my type set I have an overstruck from Ron Landis.
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What coin is this?

1madman

Sacagawea errors & varieties are the absolute best of any coin series in my opinion. Extremely difficult to find, and beautiful designs no matter what year they are. Nice thing about them is that they are scarce no matter what the error is, bad thing is that they get to be expensive quick. You’re lucky if you can find 1-2 coins per year, so it’s not a continuous “breaking the bank” purchase every week.

koynekwest

I think they are a very well done and a very attractive design. The original eagle reverse is outstanding IMO. I also have the wounded eagle, it's a PCGS MS64.

koynekwest

@Oldhoopster said:
Put the date/mm back on the Obverse!! It doesn't belong on the rim. Just my opinion

I sure do agree with this statement, as I have expressed many times here.

coinsarefun

@Panda4456 2000 One concept coin by Ron Landis of Gallery Mint Museum. They entered the contest
To design the new golden dollar
Link here
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1047606/so-im-going-to-the-las-vegas-members-show-dec-1st-update-it-s-a-no-go

element159

I love the original Sac design. And I would really like to have a usable $1 coin.

And for these reasons, I HATE all the commemorative varieties. I know they can be fun to collect, but to circulate, people need to be used to what they look like. Which means a CONSISTENT design. This coin will never circulate until the design stops changing. That was ok with the quarter, since everyone was so familiar with them. But it is not the case for the $1.

IMO, the mint should go back to the original Sac design, and actively withdraw from circulation all other designs (SBA, prezzies, special reverses etc.) and recycle those metals.

7Jaguars

OK, I am lazy on this one - was there a coin and currency set with the Sac $1 this year? If so, I missed it...

RedStorm

The vending machines at my work take dollar coins so I usually keep a handful in my desk to feed the machines as coins work better than bills. I recall awhile back taking a couple coins and placing them on my desk as I was planning to get a soft drink in a bit and my boss came in, noticed the coins on my desk and marveled, “Are these dollar coins? I have never seen one before!”

privatecoin

I have a full set in dansco album that I'll likely just end up selling now that the mint went ape crazy in price increases.

koynekwest

@7Jaguars said:
OK, I am lazy on this one - was there a coin and currency set with the Sac $1 this year? If so, I missed it...

To the best of my knowledge there wasn't one this past year. I wish they'd be consistent with these.

BryceM

I think it's the best original design the US mint has come up with for coinage intended to circulate since..... who knows.... maybe the Peace Dollar. Others might have one nice side or have fantastic elements, but many are recycled designs from elsewhere. I'm excluding commems, many of which are outstanding (Oregon, Lincoln, Pilgrim, PanPac, etc.)

I'm a bit partial to it, as Sacagawea lived just a few miles from where I spent many enjoyable summers on a dirtbike, hunting, and hiking in my younger days.

The coin was doomed to failure, just like the poor Susie B due to the size, composition, and our eternal failure to retire the dollar note.

The few that do circulate often look terrible after a bit of circulation:

As for their potential to appreciate in value, maybe someday, but not in our lifetimes. Demand will surely not exceed supply for many, many decades, if ever.

Namvet69

I've been accumulating an assortment of Sacs in airtites from various contacts for years. Many others are still in their Littleton baggies that reflect a grade. I also have one 2001-P MS68 experimental rinse in a Global slab that is very clean. I don't mind the rim action. Peace Roy

ricko

I like the Sacagawea obverse design.... A much better option than dead politicians. The reverse Eagle was also very nice. I have seen some attractive follow on reverse designs as well. I wish they did circulate more... Cheers, RickO

ElmerFusterpuck

When it came out, I thought it was a very attractive design, both obverse and reverse. But I never got into collecting the series.

Fast forward to 2021. I'm working on the 7070 Set for the PCGS registry and found I needed a Sac dollar for it, along with an American Innovation dollar. I really liked the designs for that series, the one for the telephone really grabbed my eye. So thanks to the virtual set for getting me a bit more up to speed on the newer designs.

I think an album of the golden dollars would be very attractive, but I wouldn't count on it helping with college bills for your great-great-great grandchildren!

WAYNEAS

here is my proof registry album
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/dollars/sacagawea-dollars-proof-2000-present/album/186721

ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ

beautiful set @WAYNEAS

love this reverse

eCoinquest

I think the Sacagawea dollar series, particularly from 2000 - 2008, has a ton to offer any collector. Not only is the series one of the most aesthetically pleasing designs in a long time but it offers collectors a few exciting rarities to search for as well. For example the Cheerios Dollar and the fascinating circumstances leading to its creation. Another example is the Goodacre Dollar with the burnished presentation finish, not unlike the Millenium Set burnished dollars. Finally, there are Sacagawea's that appeal to the most serious collectors including the 2000 Mules and the 2000, 2001, and 2006 Experimental Rinses. This leaves ample room for fun collecting on any budget.

...Just the thoughts of someone that has been a Sacagawea dollar collector since their inception.

Edited to add this photo of one of my Cheerios Dollars..

koynekwest

I, too, have been an avid collector of them from the get-go. I don't have a Cherrios dollar, tho, and yours looks like a nice one!. Closest I can come to that is a wounded eagle.

WAYNEAS

@ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:
beautiful set @WAYNEAS

love this reverse

Thanks @ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ

Panda4456

I purchased my first Sacajawea dollar. I will post a pic when I receive!