NGC Forums

JeffMTampa

Up until about 7 years ago I was an active participant in the NGC Forums. I participated in the NGC Registry as most of my coins were in NGC holders. Living in Tampa I suppose I felt a certain allegiance to them. At that time the Forums were on par with PCGS. Once I realized PCGS was preferred by serious collectors I began crossing the NGC slabs into PCGS holders. I began participating in the PCGS Forums around that time, and somewhere along the way quit looking at the NGC Forums.

Out of curiosity I visited the NGC Forums this morning; there's very little left. There are no specific forums on areas of interest. US coins are combined with world and ancient. Wow- what a shame. I guess everyone migrated to PCGS? Other places?

MFeld

With no disrespect to the latter, for as long as I can remember, this forum has been much more active than the NGC forum.

And many serious collectors focus on the coin, not the holder.

fiftysevener

I happen to like both forums and own both types of slabs. I consider grading opinions to be similar. Funny part is some really good thinkers have been banned from here only to end up there. Just a migration of thought I guess.

johnny9434

They come and they go.just remember what you learned there

mkman123

I like both slabs. The NGC forum is slower but its all good

keets

for quite some time the NGC forums have been referred to as SleepyHollow, there was never the participation and membership there as at the PCGS counterpart. many collectors/dealers are dual-addicted, being members at both, and would post here about the NGC forum engaged in something that had happened here. very strange. it was also common for a banned PCGS member to become entrenched at the NGC site.

and I'm called peculiar because I posted a picture of myself in a cape!!

as to the NGC to PCGS migration, I must admit that is my slow course, also. I just prefer the PCGS capsule. I will say that during the past 20 years there have been times when the PCGS vs. NGC grading differences ran like the tides. lately I have had a high rate of success in crossing from NGC into PCGS, so they would seem to be in agreement on what I collect. I still buy NGC encapsulated Coins and Exonumia and have evn submitted to NGC as recently as June.

like Mark said, the focus should be on coins. when it is, I think it doesn't matter what the holder is, a collector will be safe.

ricko

I have been a member in both forums...though in recent years, since I retired, active mainly here.... I have coins from both TPG's and keep them in whatever slab I buy them in....Cheers, RickO

TurtleCat

I was a member there when the first bamming started with HRH in late 2003. I was there periodically until a year before they migrated the forum software. I decided to let my account go at that time since you had to do something to convert to the new software.

It has always been slower but there have been great threads from time to time. Some of the photo challenges where people mailed a coin around to the next person was fun.

Hmm. Maybe I should have tried harder to restore my old PCGS forums account than start a new one?

Smudge

I looked them over and like it better here. That’s just as simple as I can put it. I will buy an NGC coin if I like it, but prefer PCGS, and I like this forum better.

coinbuf

So much could be said on this, however I wish to keep my posting privilege's here so I will stop there.

CoinHoarder

I just looked at the NGC Forums, and I don’t believe that I have ever signed up there. Doesn’t even look familiar.

I come here, usually many times a day. This is by far my favorite coin site.

koynekwest

I was there briefly. I quickly left.

Zoins

PCGS has always been more active for US coins. Many other forums, like world coins are much slower on PCGS.

PCGS has had better forum software. The PCGS software is pretty fast and NGC used to be very slow. Not sure about now. I just like the PCGS forum software a lot more, both the speed and the layout.

There are great posters on both. If you want to chat with some people, you need to go ATS.

I've also checked out ConTalk and CoinPeople. There's a good Dan Carr thread on CoinTalk and I liked bill's posts on CoinPeople.

Walkerfan

I started at NGC, first, when it was pretty active back in 2009. I started my registry in 2005 over there, too, because I believe in buying the coin and not the holder. I am still an active participant, of both the boards and the registry, over there. I agree that they have gone through a dry spell both due to software issues and, when they stopped allowing PCGC coins into their registry. Although not as active as PCGS is today, they have turned it around quite a bit. It is much more active, over there, and now they allow coins from both plastics into their registries, once again, which has created a huge surge in registry participation over there. I still check in on their boards quite often.

bsshog40

Yep, I'm a member of both forums and have been for years. I have registries with NGC also. As stated, NGC has always been slower but it never lacked in knowledge. I enjoy going back and forth. I also venture to CT once in a while.

BuffaloIronTail

I belong to both. Always have.

Used to visit there but slowly stopped because hardly anyone posted. "Sleepy Hollow" is an apt title, and has been for a long time.

Got nuthin genst them. I just like it here.

Pete

metalmeister

I like both of the primary TPG's. Heck ,I even a bunch of ANA and ANACS graded coins too!. I only have so much time. I like it here.

PocketArt

I'm a member there, and it has been awhile since I've posted; yet, that's where I started some 5 years ago.

What hurt NGC IMHO, was when they had an upgrade with their forum interface, about 3 years ago? IDK. It just was bad, and didn't help add interest, if anything it hurt forum participation. The switch over locked a lot of users out, through some sort of glitch, and many never returned.

NGC water cooler forum, mostly made up of comic book collectors, was probably the best online in terms of fun. They were an interesting, and a witty bunch. Lots of laughs. The upgrade turned that forum into a ghost town. Too bad.

I appreciate both PCGS, and NGC services; yet, PCGS has done a better job in developing, and fostering forum participation. No doubt.

ldhair

This is a great forum. I feel the same about the NGC and CoinTalk forums. Many good people on all three sites.

ReadyFireAim

It seems to be the new place to be for saint collectors so I find myself there a lot.

AlexinPA

@TurtleCat said:
I was a member there when the first bamming started with HRH in late 2003. I was there periodically until a year before they migrated the forum software. I decided to let my account go at that time since you had to do something to convert to the new software.

It has always been slower but there have been great threads from time to time. Some of the photo challenges where people mailed a coin around to the next person was fun.

'HRH' now there's a name I haven't heard in a while. I was here too when DH made the comment that set off the first 'bamming' I posted on both forums but got away from both for a couple years. The NGC update finished a lot of folks. Oh well, if people could see the 'old days' I wonder if they would run away.

Jimnight

I belong to both ... but perfer this forum.

cameonut2011

@Walkerfan said:
I started at NGC, first, when it was pretty active back in 2009. I started my registry in 2005 over there, too, because I believe in buying the coin and not the holder. I am still an active participant, of both the boards and the registry, over there. I agree that they have gone through a dry spell both due to software issues and, when they stopped allowing PCGC coins into their registry. Although not as active as PCGS is today, they have turned it around quite a bit. It is much more active, over there, and now they allow coins from both plastics into their registries, once again, which has created a huge surge in registry participation over there. I still check in on their boards quite often.

It's too little too late. The registry changes made many customers leave NGC for good hurting the value of NGC registry quality coins and participation in their message board to boot. Some may return, but they can never unring the bell.

Boosibri

Anyone care to recount the story of the HRH bannings?

DelawareDoons

@cameonut2011 said:

@Walkerfan said:
I started at NGC, first, when it was pretty active back in 2009. I started my registry in 2005 over there, too, because I believe in buying the coin and not the holder. I am still an active participant, of both the boards and the registry, over there. I agree that they have gone through a dry spell both due to software issues and, when they stopped allowing PCGC coins into their registry. Although not as active as PCGS is today, they have turned it around quite a bit. It is much more active, over there, and now they allow coins from both plastics into their registries, once again, which has created a huge surge in registry participation over there. I still check in on their boards quite often.

It's too little too late. The registry changes made many customers leave NGC for good hurting the value of NGC registry quality coins and participation in their message board to boot. Some may return, but they can never unring the bell.

I was reading about that saga the other day. What an incredibly short-sighted move on NGC's part.

TurtleCat

@Boosibri said:
Anyone care to recount the story of the HRH bannings?

I don’t know if the threads still exist but you can search for Norweb in the 2003 area. That was one set anyway. A forum member was trying to cross a Norweb NGC and it crosses without the attribution. The member made it a crusade and people took sides, etc. It escalated and got out of hand.

There were several rounds similar to that and people pushing the boundary, even with personal attacks on David Hall.

For those who don’t know, David Hall’s username are the time was HomeRunHall but the HRH came to also be used as “his royal highness”.

I’m mostly recounting only to satisfy curiosity. It’s probably best to let it drop from here. Maybe I shouldn’t have mentioned it but it’s been referred to elsewhere off and on since I rejoined.

BryceM

I was modestly active there until they changed their registry rules. Haven’t been back since.

Exbrit

I use and enjoy both forums. I tend to lean towards NGC, especially on world coins and PCGS for US coins. There are very good members on both. Both companies have their strong and weak points and when you add them up - they are about even.

jedm

I just went there to check it out. I've been a member (virtually inactive forever) and thought that I'd check in to see what's going on.... I work in a cellphone store so use this analogy: It felt to me like the time I tried to use an iPhone for a weekend to see if I'd like it. Well on Monday morning I immediately put my sim back into the android and have been using the same ever since. I think it's more of just what you're more comfortable with using. In many cases it boils down to which system your friends, family, or business associates are using, because they are both fine operating systems and have very loyal users and each have their own way of doing essentially just about anything we require of them.

Cougar1978

Used to post there ages ago but one fellow from here posting there said this the big league of coin forums so in becoming a pcgs submitter transferred here.

chesterb

I'm not on the NGC forum. Do they have as many CAC threads??!!

Dave99B

I peek occasionally over across the street, but this forum seems WAY more active/interesting.

From a grading perspective, I think NGC does a fine job. I’m more of a coin, vs plastic collector.

Dave

cameonut2011

@chesterb said:
I'm not on the NGC forum. Do they have as many CAC threads??!!

You should join and start a few there. It could be fun and might liven up the place a bit.

ReadyFireAim

@cameonut2011 said:
You should join and start a few there. It could be fun and might liven up the place a bit.

You might end up loosing some fur.
They aren't as much into into that sort of thing there.

7Jaguars

Sadly the dark side on this site appears to be slowing quite a bit now also - I hope that is not a trend and try to contribute as often as possible. If you subtract the Mexican series, or even if you don't analyzing posts that hold interest are in short supply, and possibly indicative of which way collecting is evolving.

Exbrit

@7Jaguars said:
Sadly the dark side on this site appears to be slowing quite a bit now also - I hope that is not a trend and try to contribute as often as possible. If you subtract the Mexican series, or even if you don't analyzing posts that hold interest are in short supply, and possibly indicative of which way collecting is evolving.

Agree - 100%

It will be interesting when the ANA registry starts to see if there is any movement - one way or the other.

asheland

That's one forum I never joined. Being here made it not seem necessary...

RR_1

Reports of the Rooster 🐓 Roster guy's premature demise are greatly exaggerated.

Namvet69

This forum suits me just fine. Thank you very much. Peace Roy

LanceNewmanOCC

i have a membership there along with several others but for me it is just a matter of time and energy. i started here, get everything i want from here, numismatically speaking. there are for sure some other active coin forums though. i did hear/see many times that ngc was a little more laxed which is always for the better/worse. for me when i started, i simply liked the pcgs holder better with no bias or preference at that time and usually when i start with something/someone, i stick with it until it gets rid of me or i get rid of it. something like that. loyal to a fault i think it is referred to as.

logger7

They didn't invest the money that they have here for whatever reason. It isn't cheap to build great forums and sites; also CA is tech heavy so there is that.

cameonut2011

It’s just so slow there. If there was more traffic, I would post there.

LanceNewmanOCC

@cameonut2011 said:
It’s just so slow there. If there was more traffic, I would post there.

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is/was there something with the format? sometimes when i'm extremely well acclimated to something (pcgs forums in this case), i it can be difficult to separate my familiarity vs a level of quality or lack thereof when trying something else. for some reason, the format seems to kinda nag at me as being unfavorable for the ngc forums but it could also have just been my lack of familiarity to navigate there. i've seen a lot of members here posting there (and other forums) so i doubt quality material is/was a problem.

that also kinda jumps out at me as a small part of why i wasn't more active on a more recently joined forum, although that was for sure about less activity in that case, not ngc case as i recall it being pretty active the times i've checked in over the years.

Desert Moon

@MFeld said:
With no disrespect to the latter, for as long as I can remember, this forum has been much more active than the NGC forum.

And many serious collectors focus on the coin, not the holder.

Looking back at this comment, the idea that participants here focus on the coin, not the holder, I am not sure I agree with that................

MasonG

@cameonut2011 said:
It’s just so slow there. If there was more traffic, I would post there.

Kind of the opposite of Yogi Berra's "Nobody goes there anymore. It’s too crowded."

FlyingAl

This forum is more active, but I find a lot of the topics at NGC will have more in depth responses and more ideas presented. Each forum has its own personality.

jmlanzaf

@spacehayduke said:

@MFeld said:
With no disrespect to the latter, for as long as I can remember, this forum has been much more active than the NGC forum.

And many serious collectors focus on the coin, not the holder.

Looking back at this comment, the idea that participants here focus on the coin, not the holder, I am not sure I agree with that................

It depends. Not everyone here agrees that the sky is blue. You can't put everyone into any one mindset.

Some people care more about holders or stickers than others. Certainly far more people here have slabbed collections than is true in the general marketplace.

bsshog40

I started at ngc. The forum use to be very active a few years ago with some really great members. Some are still there but most are gone. The forum has been getting a little more active the past year but not like it use to be. I've been more active here than I have in the past but I still venture ats to see what's going on.