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XF or AU? Reeded Edge Bust Half. GRADE IN! PCGS XF45.

DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited November 12, 2020 2:57PM in U.S. Coin Forum

This came in a 2x2 with a $65 price tag. I wish I paid $65.


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  • coin22lovercoin22lover Posts: 3,452 ✭✭✭

    @DelawareDoons said:
    I cannot wait to dip it.

    What?!

  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks lower-AU to me.

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 27, 2020 11:29AM

    my first thought was AU details depending on how bad those cuts are, she looks pretty banged up on the obverse. now I think XF.

  • chesterbchesterb Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It appears to be AU-50 but can see how it would be reduced to a 45 depending on how it looks in hand.

  • clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF45+

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ive seen such mixed results from the TPGs for coins like this. luster obviously plays a factor but not all au or au+ dark coins have much. crispness and strike go a long way. easy buy as an xf if priced in that range.

    i think it is a nice centered strike and a decent strike and has a uniform look even if a bit dark. i'd have to go au but not sure all buyers would bite at that level. great type coin.

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  • UltraHighReliefUltraHighRelief Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PCGS XF-45 CAC

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a liner for sure, detail wise, but I think the dark tone and marks would limit the value to XF/XF+ money.

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  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,544 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks pretty decent. Could grade AU on days that begin with S, the rest of the days would lean XF-45.

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice AU.

  • fathomfathom Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would say because of the scuffs net to XF45. Great honest wear coin.

  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,879 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU50 details. Surfaces and diminished luster may knock it down to 45.
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  • BustDMsBustDMs Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF in my book. CAC, maybe.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,033 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DelawareDoons said:
    I cannot wait to dip it.

    Dipping that coin would produce a disaster. The toning is too deep to remove completely. The results would ugly.

    As for grade, I don’t see any luster so it’s an EF at best.

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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:

    @DelawareDoons said:
    I cannot wait to dip it.

    Dipping that coin would produce a disaster. The toning is too deep to remove completely. The results would ugly.

    As for grade, I don’t see any luster so it’s an EF at best.

    And a dip would really highlight those nasty obverse field hits.

    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    45 here.

  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree dont dip...

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  • COINS MAKE CENTSCOINS MAKE CENTS Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Like it at a xf45

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  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 3,717 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF45

  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The dip comment was a joke. :)

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  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭✭✭

    50 today, 45 several years ago.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF40-45....The obverse has significant hits/dings under all that tarnish....Cheers, RickO

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe XF45 would be its grade. It might grade AU50 on a great day, but would be harder to sell at that grade's price range.
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  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DelawareDoons , are you planning to get the coin graded?

  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭✭✭

    45--a perfect 45. I really like the look. And I think that dipping this coin would wash it out and would also fail to bring out any underlying luster

    Tom

  • clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DelawareDoons said:
    The dip comment was a joke. :)

    That was not lost on at least one of us.

    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinJunkie said:
    @DelawareDoons , are you planning to get the coin graded?

    I am not sure. Flipping back and forth, but leaning towards it.

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Close call. 49?

  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinJunkie said:
    @DelawareDoons , are you planning to get the coin graded?

    I just looked up what 45's go for.

    Yeah I am gonna grade it.

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  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DelawareDoons said:

    @CoinJunkie said:
    @DelawareDoons , are you planning to get the coin graded?

    I just looked up what 45's go for.

    Yeah I am gonna grade it.

    I am a prophet.

    It graded XF45.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 31,837 ✭✭✭✭✭

    got a TV?

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 7,768 ✭✭✭✭✭

    GR variety?

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 11,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Perhaps under different light.
    Was the Gold Shield / True View option taken?

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  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice oxidation on that one! I would agree with the xf45.

  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    got a TV?

    @oih82w8 said:
    Perhaps under different light.
    Was the Gold Shield / True View option taken?

    No trueviews. The submitter told me PCGS has been tight lately. I am racking it up to that and may regrade it later. May not.

    @logger7 said:
    GR variety?

    Not sure what you are referring to.

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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,879 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DelawareDoons said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    got a TV?

    @oih82w8 said:
    Perhaps under different light.
    Was the Gold Shield / True View option taken?

    No trueviews. The submitter told me PCGS has been tight lately. I am racking it up to that and may regrade it later. May not.

    @logger7 said:
    GR variety?

    Not sure what you are referring to.

    In 2012 Dick Graham published the definitive "A Registry of Die Varieties of Reeded Edge Half Dollars 1836-1839". Our Tom Bush (@TomB) contributed significantly.

    Each die marriage was assigned a GR-x number. 1837 had 25 pairs.
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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    nice grade and thanks for the update. took a little white to get through the system. did you go econ?

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  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2020 5:24AM

    @lkeigwin said:
    In 2012 Dick Graham published the definitive "A Registry of Die Varieties of Reeded Edge Half Dollars 1836-1839". Our Tom Bush (@TomB) contributed significantly.

    Each die marriage was assigned a GR-x number. 1837 had 25 pairs.
    Lance.

    I don't have the book. Is there an online reference somewhere like the CBH site?

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:
    nice grade and thanks for the update. took a little white to get through the system. did you go econ?

    Yeah, economy. 22 days from received to grades.

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,205 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2020 5:42AM

    Nice Bust half - my wager XF45.

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DelawareDoons said:
    Yeah, economy. 22 days from received to grades.

    tyvm. that is pretty good then.

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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,879 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DelawareDoons said:

    @lkeigwin said:
    In 2012 Dick Graham published the definitive "A Registry of Die Varieties of Reeded Edge Half Dollars 1836-1839". Our Tom Bush (@TomB) contributed significantly.

    Each die marriage was assigned a GR-x number. 1837 had 25 pairs.
    Lance.

    I don't have the book. Is there an online reference somewhere like the CBH site?

    Not that I know of.

    Of course you can see examples of each die marriage on Coinfacts. But, unlike capped bust halves, it is difficult to attribute reeded edge halves from photos. Most everything was hubbed not hand-punched, thanks to steam-powered presses, so die differences are often very subtle (unless there were die failures like cracks).
    Lance.

  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lkeigwin said:

    @DelawareDoons said:

    @lkeigwin said:
    In 2012 Dick Graham published the definitive "A Registry of Die Varieties of Reeded Edge Half Dollars 1836-1839". Our Tom Bush (@TomB) contributed significantly.

    Each die marriage was assigned a GR-x number. 1837 had 25 pairs.
    Lance.

    I don't have the book. Is there an online reference somewhere like the CBH site?

    Not that I know of.

    Of course you can see examples of each die marriage on Coinfacts. But, unlike capped bust halves, it is difficult to attribute reeded edge halves from photos. Most everything was hubbed not hand-punched, thanks to steam-powered presses, so die differences are often very subtle (unless there were die failures like cracks).
    Lance.

    Yep, I figured that would be the case haha. I'll just save it for a really, really rainy day.

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