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Guess the Grade; New Oregon Commem Purchase. Update, grade posted.

DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited August 8, 2020 8:33AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Update, grade posted here.

Graded by NGC

I tried to represent pretty much every single remotely feasible grade for the coin below.

I do not have the coin in hand yet but I was obliged with these quick videos by the photographer, so you can see the luster.

https://i.imgur.com/33NnMyW.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/uA8Gal1.mp4


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Guess the Grade; New Oregon Commem Purchase. Update, grade posted.

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  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS65

    I voted 65. Might only make 64 at PCGS.

  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 6,959 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS65

    The picture makes it look 65, but the luster quality is difficult to assess and could swing my feeling a point, one way or another.


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  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,169 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS64

    Do you have any more photos in different lighting conditions? Most Oregons I see having strong luster. This one seems somewhat muted on my monitor.

  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 6, 2020 7:16PM
    MS65

    @cameonut2011 said:
    Do you have any more photos in different lighting conditions? Most Oregons I see having strong luster. This one seems somewhat muted on my monitor.

    I do not have the coin in hand yet but I was obliged with these quick videos.

    https://i.imgur.com/33NnMyW.mp4

    https://i.imgur.com/uA8Gal1.mp4

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,618 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS66

    66

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS66

    Looks like a 66 to me....subdued luster could negatively affect it....no dings, good definition of devices. Cheers, RickO

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS66

    Very nice coin at 66!

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS65

    Ms 65

  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,169 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS64

    My read is that the lustre isn't quite full for the coin, and based on that, I chose MS64. The surfaces are clean, so if the lustre is stronger than I see in the photos (it looks like the picture may have been taken with softer lighting which can mute lustre) then I could see it going up a point or two.

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  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS66

    Looks like an MS 66 IMO. Nice original coin.

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  • olympicsosolympicsos Posts: 786 ✭✭✭✭
    MS67

    Very nice! I like!

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,798 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm in the 65+/66 camp. I actually think it probably has really nice luster. Not much in the way of hits or distractions. I'm a little torn when it comes to eye appeal. The toning is a bit splotchy, but also has some aspects that are nice. Maybe it's a net neutral when it comes to the toning. In-hand, sometimes coins like this are really fun, in which case a 66 would probably be correct.

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 8, 2020 8:35AM

    ?

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,169 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS64

    I went 64 because of the luster.

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,978 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS64

    Looks 64 to me but I’m no expert in grading from pics.
    A lovely piece.

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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,007 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 7, 2020 11:15AM
    MS66

    I'll say 66.

    Luster looks pretty good from the video clips. No distracting marks on the Indian or ox, some minor field scuffs on the map, wagon is well struck, might have a minor hit on it.

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Terrific design. I think served as a significant influence for the Oregon Mutual Medal that commemorated the 25th anniversary of the company in 1931.

    Having a hard time judging the surfaces so I will pass on offering an opinion

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  • DreamcrusherDreamcrusher Posts: 210 ✭✭✭✭
    MS65

    I'm saying 64 but bumped due to the toning = 65.

  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS66

    MS66 and such a beauty.

  • AngryTurtleAngryTurtle Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭
    MS67

    I voted 67. it all depends on the luster, looked pretty good to me, but i could have gone 66, depending on how you interpret the picture.

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,393 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS66

    PC66, NGC67...... :D

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  • OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS67

    I was 65 before watching the videos.......and after watching the videos I think 67.

    OINK

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,355 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS66

    Nice MS 66 is my guess.

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  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 8, 2020 8:32AM
    MS65

    The real question, will it CAC, and if so, gold or green?

    1 MS62.
    2 MS63.
    14 MS64.
    14 MS65.
    24 MS66.
    4 MS67.
    2 details.

    The grade is 64. I think it is undergraded for sure.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,618 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS66

    It doesn’t look nearly as nice to me in the new photo. That aside, the difference in value between a 64 and a 65 is negligible and the same can be said for a 64 and even some 66’s.

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  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 6,959 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS65

    I hate to say this but I am glad that's not a 66. I never thought it was truly original (color but no skin), and I really don't like to see coins from that era and delivery to be 66 and above that don't have some skin.

    Will it bean? Unless those pictures are hiding something, I would think it would, although I don't know enough about that situation to have a solid opinion. If it does that will help separate it from the rest.

    I'd surely leave it in the soapbox. Is that a label back or an embossed back holder?


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  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS65

    @MFeld said:
    It doesn’t look nearly as nice to me in the new photo. That aside, the difference in value between a 64 and a 65 is negligible and the same can be said for a 64 and even some 66’s.

    I don't see all that much difference between the latest photo and the original, honestly. YMMV. The grade seems appropriate. I guessed 65 figuring it got an "NGC bump".

  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS66

    Sure looks better than MS64. I'd think it would be worthy of a CAC gold decal.

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