Am i paranoid? Questionable slab condition
d9lowe
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I won a bit on Great Collections for a MS64 CAC 1874 gold dollar and received it this afternoon. The holder looks melted or burned on the ends and looks like there is a gap in between the two halves. Look at the pictures and let me know what you think. Was this opened possiblity? Could heat have done it? Thanks for any ideas, or am i just paranoid??
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What were the responses over on the NGC forum?
In answer to your question in this thread”s title - perhaps. But either way, I don’t think the holder has been tampered with.
Additionally, when you have a question about a holder, I suggest looking at the coin, too.
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Sorry, this is the only coin forum i have ever followed. I figured id start here
I don't see anything wrong with that slab. That's the way they look. Can we get some decent pics of your coin? If the coin looks like a MS64, it's very unlikely anyone tampered with the slab.
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Looks like a normal NGC slab to me.
Thanks for the responses guys! All my other NGC graded gold coins have the arrow looking symbols on the side and all the lines are clean where the halves are sealed. This slab just threw me off. Must be an older method of sealing them.
Looks normal to me. Don’t expect an 1874 gold dollar to be as nice as an 1880 or any other date from the 1880s. They were not as well made.
Looks pretty normal to me, that series all have those kinda messy seal points.
Like everyone said, is the coin all there?
The little I can see shows a bean, and it sure looks like it's all there (and then some!).
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Your 1874 gold dollar certainly looks like a very nice MS64 so I wouldn't worry about your slab.
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Nice!
Thanks guys. Just my first time experiencing a slab that looked like that. Love the coin for sure!!
Looks okay to me. I had to look at some of my NGC slabs. Some looked a little odd like yours and some didn't.
Look all right. Nice coin!
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It's sealed with an ultrasonic welder. It looks a-ok.
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Yes, so in effect it is "melted".
Looks normal. Beautiful coin!
That’s normal. I have slabs that have that appearance.
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Looks fine to me as well. I see lots of NGC slabs that look similar. All good.
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Paranoid, I have some foreign coins that the holder looks worse than that. Was worried too, when I first got them, but after seeing many holders, some don’t seal, process as cleanly as others.
Believe me. Nobody at NGC is out to get you or cause you harm. They don't even know who you are. RELAX. Enjoy your coin.
Been collecting nusmatics for 4 months now. Been a silver stacker for a decade. You hear all these stories about counterfeits and scams, even with graded slabs. I happened to notice something i had never seen with my other NGC graded coins. I figured i would ask. These coins aint cheap
@d9lowe I couldn’t get my phone to focus for a good pic, but I’ve got similar ones surrounding coins no one would counterfeit/tamper with (i.e. low dollar).
Also, distill the comments to read as encouragement in collecting and it’ll make being new a lot easier.
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No worries at all there. Nice pickup! Welcome.
When dropped on a concrete or hard tile floor those NGC slabs can chip or distort along the edge that contacts the floor, though usually showing a "rim" bruise or with a chip missing. Choice and Gem classic gold is not easy to counterfeit. Get used to looking for die polish lines, luster flow, die cracks, alloy spots, machine doubling, etc. that help to identify one of these as a genuine US Mint product. The newer coins are so well made they have very few of those 'old' striking problems. That's a plus for the early gold.
That's, of course, not the point. The question is whether the consignor or Great Collections trying to do harm by inserting another coin in the holder. My answer is no, also, but it seems reasonable to wonder if it is a possibility.
@d9lowe.... I just checked a few of my NGC slabs and they have the same appearance on the edges. Nice coin. Cheers, RickO
It's good that you are looking and asking. While the appearance of these is normal, there are subtle alterations/counterfeits out there, and the folks on this forum have a lot of knowledge. Definitely a valuable resource. Welcome aboard!
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Welcome to the forums. Awesome little coin!
I am one who checks my slabs carefully, I assure you, that's a normal NGC slab. They looked like that pretty often during that period.
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