I believe @tradedollarnut has stated before that he considers this the Carter coin, but I didn't catch why.
Part fo my reasoning to ask whether it was Contursi who first postulated it was the first dollar struck, because ,if so, he could be the the "discoverer".
In the Amon Carter sale in 1984, Stacks (before they merged with other firms) stated their opinion that it was the firm position that "It is perfectly conceivable that this coin was the very first 1794 Silver Dollar struck!"
Great catalog pages!
It got me thinking that it would be great to not only have the latest TrueViews for each coin, but the earliest known photos for each coin a well. Could be a fun project diving through old catalogs.
You may be able to actually hear my heart going pitter patter
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Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Not sure if it's too late for this, but if I owned the 1794 dollar, I would be tempted to crack it out and hold it raw like @cardinal did. Not sure if that's smart or dumb, but it would be historic and amazing.
Bruce,
Aside from the two big ones 1794 & 1804 what is your next favorite coin you consigned. Also what makes it so special length of time to find it, the look etc. Appreciate you sharing. Thank you.
@Zoins said:
Not sure if it's too late for this, but if I owned the 1794 dollar, I would be tempted to crack it out and hold it raw like @cardinal did. Not sure if that's smart or dumb, but it would be historic and amazing.
I wonder if Bruce has thought of that?
The question of cracking out the 1794 Dollar came up in Steve Contursi's press conference long ago. The answer was a resounding "NO!" With many reporters in attendance, and cracking the coin out while they were there, the commotion might have affected the attention of the person who would crack it out, and "Plink.... the holder cracks and the coin starts rolling on the floor!" When the coin was cracked out at the Pittsburgh ANA, I saw how the coin was removed from the holder. PCGS used a vertical band saw to trim off all four edges of the coin holder, using a jig to support the coin so that ONLY the edges were cut with the saw. When the coin was cracked out at the Los Angeles ANA, the PCGS employee cracked it using cutting pliers. Obviously, that guy was VERY skilled with that, as it only took one clip on one side, and the holder split in two horizontally.
If the next owner wants his name on the label, maybe there can be an arrangement for Bruce and the new owner to be present when is cracked out, and allowing those two to examine the coin out of the holder. If that were to happen, I would suggest them viewing the coin in a dark room that PCGS uses for photography. The coin looks fantastic in the holder, but it looks other worldly when seen out of the holder!
@wrighty said:
Bruce,
Aside from the two big ones 1794 & 1804 what is your next favorite coin you consigned. Also what makes it so special length of time to find it, the look etc. Appreciate you sharing. Thank you.
I always wanted one of these and this was the perfect coin in the perfect grade
TDN, as most of us would agree is the Energizer Bunnie in the high end coin market. He has owned many great rarities only to sell them and acquire more great rarities. And after a few years they will also be sold.
TDN is really just the smartest shark in the numismatic ocean. He does not really "collect" coins, he just is the best in the business selling them to the whales. And I wish him the best in the upcoming Regency auction. I may even travel to Las
Vegas to see his coins. I was just through Vegas a few weeks ago and was not quarantined.......but response to the pandemic is a moving solution.
@wrighty said:
Bruce,
Aside from the two big ones 1794 & 1804 what is your next favorite coin you consigned. Also what makes it so special length of time to find it, the look etc. Appreciate you sharing. Thank you.
I always wanted one of these and this was the perfect coin in the perfect grade
@OldIndianNutKase said:
TDN, as most of us would agree is the Energizer Bunnie in the high end coin market. He has owned many great rarities only to sell them and acquire more great rarities. And after a few years they will also be sold.
TDN is really just the smartest shark in the numismatic ocean. He does not really "collect" coins, he just is the best in the business selling them to the whales. And I wish him the best in the upcoming Regency auction. I may even travel to Las
Vegas to see his coins. I was just through Vegas a few weeks ago and was not quarantined.......but response to the pandemic is a moving solution.
OINK
It's a pretty great strategy which has resulted in some wonderful coins. I can't wait to see what he collects next
@wrighty said:
Bruce,
Aside from the two big ones 1794 & 1804 what is your next favorite coin you consigned. Also what makes it so special length of time to find it, the look etc. Appreciate you sharing. Thank you.
I always wanted one of these and this was the perfect coin in the perfect grade
That is the nicest coin I’ve ever seen. What an amazing eye. Congratulations
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
@tradedollarnut thank you so much for posting all your amazing coins! Their amazing to look at and super cool! Hopefully when I grow up (im 16) maybe in 30 years I can afford to buy one of your (cheaper) coins. Out of pure curiosity, what's the cheapest coins you have? What's your favorite? What got you into coin collecting? Sorry if I am bothering/annoying you with questions!
@Connecticoin said:
Is there any information or speculation on who owned the SP66 1794 Dollar prior to Virgil Brand?
It's not known.
There is a theory:
One theory is that this is the Adam Eckfeldt-Mint Cabinet coin that was traded for Washingtonia in the 1840-1850s by the Mint Director, James Ross Snowden. There were many coins that were traded from the Mint Cabinet for Washingtonia and other "holes" in the collection. This coin very likely is one of those traded coins.
That statement is ridiculous! Arguably one of the most astute collectors of our generation. He can grade really well, he understands the market and he has built the best early dollar date set, best seated dollars and best trade dollars. That's all he's done as a collector. And a bunch of other serious collector stuff like 1913 lib nickels.....
Some people just being a little silly here for fun im guessing.
@Catbert said: @CalifornianKing Do a search on YouTube for Bruce Morelan and you’ll see several videos that speak to some of his interests and favorites.
@OldIndianNutKase said:
TDN, as most of us would agree is the Energizer Bunnie in the high end coin market. He has owned many great rarities only to sell them and acquire more great rarities. And after a few years they will also be sold.
TDN is really just the smartest shark in the numismatic ocean. He does not really "collect" coins, he just is the best in the business selling them to the whales. And I wish him the best in the upcoming Regency auction. I may even travel to Las
OINK
There are Gerry Forsythe & Eric Newman type guys who have inexhaustible resources and are in it for the very long term.
Then, there are Dr. Steven Duckor type guys who will mortgage the house, just to complete a set and for bragging rights, and then will sell, immediately, upon completion.
I think that TDN falls somewhere in the middle.
I would MOST certainly label TDN, as one of the greatest collectors of our time, in any event.
“I may not believe in myself but I believe in what I’m doing” ~Jimmy Page~
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Great catalog pages!
It got me thinking that it would be great to not only have the latest TrueViews for each coin, but the earliest known photos for each coin a well. Could be a fun project diving through old catalogs.
Great photo! Is there a reverse to go with that?
You may be able to actually hear my heart going pitter patter
m
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Not sure if it's too late for this, but if I owned the 1794 dollar, I would be tempted to crack it out and hold it raw like @cardinal did. Not sure if that's smart or dumb, but it would be historic and amazing.
I wonder if Bruce has thought of that?
Awesome
Bruce,
Aside from the two big ones 1794 & 1804 what is your next favorite coin you consigned. Also what makes it so special length of time to find it, the look etc. Appreciate you sharing. Thank you.
The question of cracking out the 1794 Dollar came up in Steve Contursi's press conference long ago. The answer was a resounding "NO!" With many reporters in attendance, and cracking the coin out while they were there, the commotion might have affected the attention of the person who would crack it out, and "Plink.... the holder cracks and the coin starts rolling on the floor!" When the coin was cracked out at the Pittsburgh ANA, I saw how the coin was removed from the holder. PCGS used a vertical band saw to trim off all four edges of the coin holder, using a jig to support the coin so that ONLY the edges were cut with the saw. When the coin was cracked out at the Los Angeles ANA, the PCGS employee cracked it using cutting pliers. Obviously, that guy was VERY skilled with that, as it only took one clip on one side, and the holder split in two horizontally.
If the next owner wants his name on the label, maybe there can be an arrangement for Bruce and the new owner to be present when is cracked out, and allowing those two to examine the coin out of the holder. If that were to happen, I would suggest them viewing the coin in a dark room that PCGS uses for photography. The coin looks fantastic in the holder, but it looks other worldly when seen out of the holder!
I always wanted one of these and this was the perfect coin in the perfect grade
Is TDN going through sellers remorse or does he now want to let someone else have fun with the coins??
Or both??
TDN: I still have the first E Norweb 1795 holed $10 gold coin thanks to you.
TDN, as most of us would agree is the Energizer Bunnie in the high end coin market. He has owned many great rarities only to sell them and acquire more great rarities. And after a few years they will also be sold.
TDN is really just the smartest shark in the numismatic ocean. He does not really "collect" coins, he just is the best in the business selling them to the whales. And I wish him the best in the upcoming Regency auction. I may even travel to Las
Vegas to see his coins. I was just through Vegas a few weeks ago and was not quarantined.......but response to the pandemic is a moving solution.
OINK
Beautiful coin! Here's the TrueView:
It's a pretty great strategy which has resulted in some wonderful coins. I can't wait to see what he collects next
In my days, I haven't seen anyone having more fun, nor getting more bang for their buck than TDN. Both; admirable and enjoyable ....
That is the nicest coin I’ve ever seen. What an amazing eye. Congratulations
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Just saw this ad. Hope HLRC knows there's one here
Hey Bruce, do you have one of these?
Is there any information or speculation on who owned the SP66 1794 Dollar prior to Virgil Brand?
@tradedollarnut thank you so much for posting all your amazing coins! Their amazing to look at and super cool! Hopefully when I grow up (im 16) maybe in 30 years I can afford to buy one of your (cheaper) coins. Out of pure curiosity, what's the cheapest coins you have? What's your favorite? What got you into coin collecting? Sorry if I am bothering/annoying you with questions!
It's not known.
There is a theory:
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1794-1/86851
@CalifornianKing Do a search on YouTube for Bruce Morelan and you’ll see several videos that speak to some of his interests and favorites.
He does not really "collect" coins, he just is the best in the business selling them to the whales.
I’m afraid that I have to strenuously object to any statement inferring that I don’t collect coins.
That statement is ridiculous! Arguably one of the most astute collectors of our generation. He can grade really well, he understands the market and he has built the best early dollar date set, best seated dollars and best trade dollars. That's all he's done as a collector. And a bunch of other serious collector stuff like 1913 lib nickels.....
Some people just being a little silly here for fun im guessing.
Show your 1909 Rattler collection!
I mean you got one of the best collections there are. So yes you collect coins. Also good luck with making some fat stacks from your auction.
Will do! Thanks!
One reason I used to go to shows was to physically look at coins like these, because there's no way I'll ever own one of them.
"Seu cabra da peste,
"Sou Mangueira......."
There are Gerry Forsythe & Eric Newman type guys who have inexhaustible resources and are in it for the very long term.
Then, there are Dr. Steven Duckor type guys who will mortgage the house, just to complete a set and for bragging rights, and then will sell, immediately, upon completion.
I think that TDN falls somewhere in the middle.
I would MOST certainly label TDN, as one of the greatest collectors of our time, in any event.
“I may not believe in myself but I believe in what I’m doing” ~Jimmy Page~
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/