@bigole said:
Other than the silver privy v75, is there another good reason to be here at 7:30 now? What are the other flip potentials?
I think the diehards on this forum should get up before the crack of dawn every morning for the rest of your lives and keep trying. It may say SOLD OUT, but don't believe everything the Mint tells you! Just have the faith that more will become available and perhaps you too will be blessed with the Holy Grail of all coins!
I think late summer early fall will be the next seagull driven coin rush, maybe basement boy will visit again then. Could be the two coin ASE set?
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@bigole said:
Other than the silver privy v75, is there another good reason to be here at 7:30 now? What are the other flip potentials?
All the other flips are pretty small.
The V75 silver medal can be sold for $100 to $115 pretty easily. [$75 mint cost]
You can flip the gold medals, but you really need to play the plastic game to make it worth your while.
I think the Mayflower coins can't easily be flipped anymore.
The 2020 Mint sets can still be flipped at $35 [$25.25 mint cost]
I wonder how many of you guys will check tomorrow just in case, just maybe the sold out sign was a trick and a couple more will become available.
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I checked on the AGE v75. Why? Because it's just the thing to do! Nada, nothing. I will keep getting up early and checking every morning because I refuse to believe that they're sold out. I feel that the Mint probably has one lying around somewhere collecting dust. I must have that one!!!
@JeffM said:
I checked on the AGE v75. Why? Because it's just the thing to do! Nada, nothing. I will keep getting up early and checking every morning because I refuse to believe that they're sold out. I feel that the Mint probably has one lying around somewhere collecting dust. I must have that one!!!
@JeffM said:
I checked on the AGE v75. Why? Because it's just the thing to do! Nada, nothing. I will keep getting up early and checking every morning because I refuse to believe that they're sold out. I feel that the Mint probably has one lying around somewhere collecting dust. I must have that one!!!
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@JeffM said:
I checked on the AGE v75. Why? Because it's just the thing to do! Nada, nothing. I will keep getting up early and checking every morning because I refuse to believe that they're sold out. I feel that the Mint probably has one lying around somewhere collecting dust. I must have that one!!!
Join the 12-step program that helps those that just can’t accept that the AGE v75 is sold out.
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Everyone: “Hi Jeff!”
And after I explain why I'm there, all the participants will get excited and all will be checking for the AGE V75 and reporting on here daily. We shall once again clog the Mint's website!
Not with 4 of them. They almost never do those auctions. Maybe twice in 20 years and that was because there were thousands of them.
may I direct your attention to this grid, which shows a majority of products sold in the low double digits
I know about that sale. But that's the only such sale I'm aware of them doing...ever...and there were hundreds of thousands of coins involved (total). I don't know why they did it and I don't know if they are planning to ever do it again, but in the past they simply melted what was leftover when they stopped selling them. I'm really not sure why that sale happened, but there was a lot of dissatisfaction with it.
I can see why, @jmlanzaf - problematic for all kinds of reasons, and certainly doesn't engender trust in the mint if they are holding onto stock for years, seemingly against the perception that they melt down what remains once sales close --- based off that behavior, I wouldn't necessarily trust that they would melt any remains of the v75 age should they exist
@ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:
I can see why, @jmlanzaf - problematic for all kinds of reasons, and certainly doesn't engender trust in the mint if they are holding onto stock for years, seemingly against the perception that they melt down what remains once sales close --- based off that behavior, I wouldn't necessarily trust that they would melt any remains of the v75 age should they exist
I don't know if they actually intentionally held it or just lost track of it. LOL. But, as you say, it doesn't really engender trust. And if they snuck 1 or 2 V75 Gold into a similar sale, you'll see a smaller version of the Gamestop controversy as the "big guys" get to buy them.
Probably limited the 2021w ASE proof subscriptions. Doubt they enrolled 327,400. Also these are in the congratulations set. Mintage is very close to the 1994 which is low compared to rest of series. 1994 trending over $100-$130.00. Maybe a very quick sellout coming.
I think so @pf70collector - lot of factors aligning for that; still p high demand for PM products - I know me personally I'll be buying several, and imagine others will be too
@pf70collector said:
Probably limited the 2021w ASE proof subscriptions. Doubt they enrolled 327,400. Also these are in the congratulations set. Mintage is very close to the 1994 which is low compared to rest of series. 1994 trending over $100-$130.00. Maybe a very quick sellout coming.
It'll sell out, but it will have a hard time being worth more than the $73 issue price once the dust settles. While the 1994 carries a premium, it is an anomaly. The mintage of 1995 is only 30,000 higher than 1994 and sells in the $50 range.
I'd also point out that there is NO mintage limit on the coin itself. The 327,000 is the limit on the boxes. How many box collectors are there?
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@Mgarmy said:
You still fighting the good fight K?
Not checking in the morning anymore as I’m not interested in the medal and 1/2oz gold. Already got a ASE from day of release though.
Would be interesting if the sales number of the AGE moves after being marked sold out. I remember the ASE ERP from last year has it’s numbers moving even though being marked sold out.
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Looking at the sales number for the ASE ERP from 2019, the coin was marked as sold out on 9-15-20. the number on 9-20-20 showed 29,822 and the number on 1-31-21 shows 29,909. Weird that the number continues to go up after marked as sold out....
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@Kliao said:
AGE privy 1,940 (5 left) -1
ASE privy 74,758 (242 left) -4
1/2 oz gold 7,434 (45 left) -21
Silver medal 19,736 (264 left) -1
Little change. Few returns.
Interesting on the ASE. I had seen a couple of appearances and some forum members had seen some appearances of the ASE last week. I would have expected more movement. But if a sold out AGE item moves -1 with a small number I could see the larger quantity ASE move -4 easily with no actual sales.
Well, The ASE V75 was available long enough yesterday to get in in my cart and almost check out. This morning it was available long enough to survive a couple refreshes and click the order confirmation button. I got one of my questions answered this morning that I have been waiting to find out for a while now. I am impressed at how fast they kicked this back as household limit reached.
I have two mint accounts. I made the second account when I realized I was going to fight for both the ASE and the AGE at the same time. Which I learned that working two computers at the same time lead to IP banning on day one! Both accounts are set up the same except for using a different email address and login. With the new account I picked up the ASE on opening day. The main account I picked up an AGE a few days later. So with the possibility of the hunt continuing I thought I could try sneaking one in on the main account that did not have an ASE in the order history. NOPE, During order processing was it immediately kicked back as Household Limit Reached. So the database was very fast (about a second) to recognize the same mailing address had already been used or they have somehow linked both accounts order history as one. I had expected that I could get an order in and then a couple days later they would cross reference and maybe cancel the order.
Still playing the game. Still learning the system. But the V75 did appear for more than a few seconds both yesterday and today. I would have had one bought today had it not kicked it back. For me the V75 game is officially over. For one of you... keep on fighting, they are still out there.
@Batman23 said:
Well, The ASE V75 was available long enough yesterday to get in in my cart and almost check out. This morning it was available long enough to survive a couple refreshes and click the order confirmation button. I got one of my questions answered this morning that I have been waiting to find out for a while now. I am impressed at how fast they kicked this back as household limit reached.
I have two mint accounts. I made the second account when I realized I was going to fight for both the ASE and the AGE at the same time. Which I learned that working two computers at the same time lead to IP banning on day one! Both accounts are set up the same except for using a different email address and login. With the new account I picked up the ASE on opening day. The main account I picked up an AGE a few days later. So with the possibility of the hunt continuing I thought I could try sneaking one in on the main account that did not have an ASE in the order history. NOPE, During order processing was it immediately kicked back as Household Limit Reached. So the database was very fast (about a second) to recognize the same mailing address had already been used or they have somehow linked both accounts order history as one. I had expected that I could get an order in and then a couple days later they would cross reference and maybe cancel the order.
Still playing the game. Still learning the system. But the V75 did appear for more than a few seconds both yesterday and today. I would have had one bought today had it not kicked it back. For me the V75 game is officially over. For one of you... keep on fighting, they are still out there.
I can back that up that they were available just long enough today. I got the AGE and ASE V75s in November. My brother wanted one of the V75 ASEs so I told him if he gave me his account info I would try for him. Been trying for quite awhile and finally got one for him today.
@Kliao said:
I believe that they were able to identify your home address pretty quickly which put the HHL on it or possibly the same payment info.
It would be interesting to know which one they hit on. I had figured that with over 74,000 different addresses in the system for these that it would take them a little longer than a second to figure it out.
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Well, I reckon mommy didn't get one or we would have heard about it....
AGE privy 1,941 (4 left) +0 SOLD OUT
ASE privy 74,776 (224 left) +2
1/2 oz gold 7,455 (45 left) +621
Silver medal 19,742 (258 left) -20
AGE with no change from last week ended with a number of 1,941. The 1/2 gold sold a bunch and some silver medals were returned.
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Other than the silver privy v75, is there another good reason to be here at 7:30 now? What are the other flip potentials?
I think the diehards on this forum should get up before the crack of dawn every morning for the rest of your lives and keep trying. It may say SOLD OUT, but don't believe everything the Mint tells you! Just have the faith that more will become available and perhaps you too will be blessed with the Holy Grail of all coins!
Now that the AGE privy finally sold out, maybe the price will go up.
National Commemorative Medals of the U.S. Mint:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/medals-tokens/national-commemorative-medals-united-states-mint-1940-present/alltimeset/195526
I think late summer early fall will be the next seagull driven coin rush, maybe basement boy will visit again then. Could be the two coin ASE set?
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All the other flips are pretty small.
The V75 silver medal can be sold for $100 to $115 pretty easily. [$75 mint cost]
You can flip the gold medals, but you really need to play the plastic game to make it worth your while.
I think the Mayflower coins can't easily be flipped anymore.
The 2020 Mint sets can still be flipped at $35 [$25.25 mint cost]
Thanks for the reply. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't overlooking anything.
Finally sold out on gold! Glad got pair gold and silver PF70. Watch the price slowly going up towards end of the year
I wonder how many of you guys will check tomorrow just in case, just maybe the sold out sign was a trick and a couple more will become available.
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Got a couple of you thinking didn’t I ?
Nope!
I saw ASE flip but I could not get it into the bag. That is a short window. not many being released.
I checked on the AGE v75. Why? Because it's just the thing to do! Nada, nothing. I will keep getting up early and checking every morning because I refuse to believe that they're sold out. I feel that the Mint probably has one lying around somewhere collecting dust. I must have that one!!!
If they do, they will just melt it.
Join the 12-step program that helps those that just can’t accept that the AGE v75 is sold out.
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or sell it in an 'emergency auction' in a few years
And after I explain why I'm there, all the participants will get excited and all will be checking for the AGE V75 and reporting on here daily. We shall once again clog the Mint's website!
Not with 4 of them. They almost never do those auctions. Maybe twice in 20 years and that was because there were thousands of them.
may I direct your attention to this grid, which shows a majority of products sold in the low double digits
https://www.coinworld.com/news/precious-metals/u-s-mint-sells-older-gold-silver-coinage-to-select-dealers-in-sealed-bid-auction
I knew I should have bought those remaining 41 Betty Ford coins!!!
I know about that sale. But that's the only such sale I'm aware of them doing...ever...and there were hundreds of thousands of coins involved (total). I don't know why they did it and I don't know if they are planning to ever do it again, but in the past they simply melted what was leftover when they stopped selling them. I'm really not sure why that sale happened, but there was a lot of dissatisfaction with it.
I can see why, @jmlanzaf - problematic for all kinds of reasons, and certainly doesn't engender trust in the mint if they are holding onto stock for years, seemingly against the perception that they melt down what remains once sales close --- based off that behavior, I wouldn't necessarily trust that they would melt any remains of the v75 age should they exist
I don't know if they actually intentionally held it or just lost track of it. LOL. But, as you say, it doesn't really engender trust. And if they snuck 1 or 2 V75 Gold into a similar sale, you'll see a smaller version of the Gamestop controversy as the "big guys" get to buy them.
I saw no activity this morning on the ASE for those that are interested.
Interesting that the American Eagle One Ounce Silver Proof Coin enrollment program (beginning with the 2021-W) has sold out.
Probably limited the 2021w ASE proof subscriptions. Doubt they enrolled 327,400. Also these are in the congratulations set. Mintage is very close to the 1994 which is low compared to rest of series. 1994 trending over $100-$130.00. Maybe a very quick sellout coming.
Box of 20
I think so @pf70collector - lot of factors aligning for that; still p high demand for PM products - I know me personally I'll be buying several, and imagine others will be too
It'll sell out, but it will have a hard time being worth more than the $73 issue price once the dust settles. While the 1994 carries a premium, it is an anomaly. The mintage of 1995 is only 30,000 higher than 1994 and sells in the $50 range.
I'd also point out that there is NO mintage limit on the coin itself. The 327,000 is the limit on the boxes. How many box collectors are there?
AGE privy 1,941 (4 left) +0
ASE privy 74,762 (224 left) -14
1/2 oz gold 7,453 (45 left) -2
Silver medal 19,737 (258 left) -5
A few returns. Very little change.
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You still fighting the good fight K?
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has anyone got a signed COA yet in the wwii medal? don't remember seeing any forum member sharing that yet
@jmlanzaf made a thread about getting a couple.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1050550/i-won-the-ryder-lottery-twice-damn-the-megamillions#latest
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thanks, @Kliao
Not checking in the morning anymore as I’m not interested in the medal and 1/2oz gold. Already got a ASE from day of release though.
Would be interesting if the sales number of the AGE moves after being marked sold out. I remember the ASE ERP from last year has it’s numbers moving even though being marked sold out.
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ASE vf came up briefly this morning.
Box of 20
Yup. Popped up again, today 2/3. I got to Final Review with it, then Bam! No longer available...
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https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/classic-issues-colonials-through-1964/zambezi-collection-trade-dollars/7345Asesabi Lutho
Looking at the sales number for the ASE ERP from 2019, the coin was marked as sold out on 9-15-20. the number on 9-20-20 showed 29,822 and the number on 1-31-21 shows 29,909. Weird that the number continues to go up after marked as sold out....
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any chance at all the gold would be listed again for sale ? or 100% we will never see it ever again ?
100% sure. They've never removed a "sold out" sign that I can think of.
I got flashed by the ASE this morning. Not long enough for a good look, just a teaser.
Same thing today. Got to final review, then unavailable...
mbogoman
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/classic-issues-colonials-through-1964/zambezi-collection-trade-dollars/7345Asesabi Lutho
Mayflower silver returns were available.....
Interesting numbers this morning. 1 return or cancellation on the AGE. It sits at 1940 now.
AGE privy 1,940 (5 left) -1
ASE privy 74,758 (242 left) -4
1/2 oz gold 7,434 (45 left) -21
Silver medal 19,736 (264 left) -1
Little change. Few returns.
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Interesting on the ASE. I had seen a couple of appearances and some forum members had seen some appearances of the ASE last week. I would have expected more movement. But if a sold out AGE item moves -1 with a small number I could see the larger quantity ASE move -4 easily with no actual sales.
Well, The ASE V75 was available long enough yesterday to get in in my cart and almost check out. This morning it was available long enough to survive a couple refreshes and click the order confirmation button. I got one of my questions answered this morning that I have been waiting to find out for a while now. I am impressed at how fast they kicked this back as household limit reached.
I have two mint accounts. I made the second account when I realized I was going to fight for both the ASE and the AGE at the same time. Which I learned that working two computers at the same time lead to IP banning on day one! Both accounts are set up the same except for using a different email address and login. With the new account I picked up the ASE on opening day. The main account I picked up an AGE a few days later. So with the possibility of the hunt continuing I thought I could try sneaking one in on the main account that did not have an ASE in the order history. NOPE, During order processing was it immediately kicked back as Household Limit Reached. So the database was very fast (about a second) to recognize the same mailing address had already been used or they have somehow linked both accounts order history as one. I had expected that I could get an order in and then a couple days later they would cross reference and maybe cancel the order.
Still playing the game. Still learning the system. But the V75 did appear for more than a few seconds both yesterday and today. I would have had one bought today had it not kicked it back. For me the V75 game is officially over. For one of you... keep on fighting, they are still out there.
I believe that they were able to identify your home address pretty quickly which put the HHL on it or possibly the same payment info.
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I can back that up that they were available just long enough today. I got the AGE and ASE V75s in November. My brother wanted one of the V75 ASEs so I told him if he gave me his account info I would try for him. Been trying for quite awhile and finally got one for him today.
It would be interesting to know which one they hit on. I had figured that with over 74,000 different addresses in the system for these that it would take them a little longer than a second to figure it out.