To cross or not to cross....

spacehayduke · November 20, 2019 7:47PM

Hi Folks,
I know this has been discussed ad nauseam, but I have 2 coins I am conflicted on. The first is a lovely barber half in a Fatty. I like the old holders, I do and believe in preserving them when possible. But with the exception of this one, all of my halves are in PCGS holders and I like consistency as much as I like the old Fatty's.

The second is a half dime in the NGC Newman holder with the special label. Is this worth keeping if I can get the pedigree on a PCGS slab? I don't think so but.....

So how would you approach these 2? Special holders both - would you cross and not worry about these classic holders assuming crossing at grade?

Best, SH

Justacommeman · November 20, 2019 8:05PM

I have one NGC holdered coin in my entire collection. The rest are PCGS. With that being said I would keep these as is. I would rather have these two particular coins in their current slabs then in new PCGS holders. JMHO

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amwldcoin · November 20, 2019 8:08PM

Just My Humble Opinion....I think your Barber Half will end up in a 55 holder with a long shot at 53. Keep the Pedigree on the Half Dime!

coinbuf · November 20, 2019 8:09PM

I would not if I were in your shoes, different plastic doesn't change the coin imo.

Crusty · November 20, 2019 8:26PM

I like the old NGC fatty holders so I’d keep that one the way it is. I don’t have the same love for a pedigree as most other collectors do. So I wouldn’t mind crossing the half dime. Both coins are fricken awesome!

BryceM · November 20, 2019 8:30PM

All of my collection is in PCGS plastic, but I bought every single one of them that way (except for a handful I purchased raw). I have previously owned coins in NGC holders (including fatties), but sold all of them the way they came. The few I had left I dumped when NGC effectively kicked me out of their registry. I played the crossover game once or twice - just enough to know it wasn’t a game for me.

I’m sure I’ve passed over a ton of perfectly wonderful coins this way..... but at least my OCD is under control.

So, to answer your question, I’d leave them as-is, or sell them as-is and look for others. Really though there isn’t a right answer and it depends on if you’re in the registry game, collecting slabs, collecting coins, or just buying stuff.

cameonut2011 · November 20, 2019 8:47PM

If you could cross the pedigree, I would cross it at grade in a heart bit. Ditto for the old no line fatty.

cameonut2011 · November 20, 2019 8:49PM

@spacehayduke said:
The second is a half dime in the NGC Newman holder with the special label. Is this worth keeping if I can get the pedigree on a PCGS slab? I don't think so but.....

Also keep in mind that you'd get the special label back. As long as PCGS keeps the pedigree, I don't see much downside. I guess I am in the minority here.

TomB · November 20, 2019 9:42PM

I'd keep the Barber half in the old NGC holder and would be surprised if the half-dime crossed at grade.

mkman123 · November 20, 2019 9:48PM

nope I wouldn't cross, its fine the way it is.

lkeigwin · November 20, 2019 9:50PM

Leave them alone.
Lance.

Catbert · November 20, 2019 9:58PM

I would attempt the cross of the half at 58 minimum and leave the other alone. I understand your desire for appearance consistency with your barber set. If it won’t cross at grade, I’d look for a pcgs replacement and sell the fatty.

Wahoo554 · November 20, 2019 9:59PM

I wouldn’t. Doesn’t seem like the cross over would be a value add.

mannie gray · November 20, 2019 10:15PM

@lkeigwin said:
Leave them alone.
Lance.

+1

Kove · November 20, 2019 10:42PM

No need to cross either coin.

matt_dac · November 21, 2019 5:00AM

Not....
NGC or PCGS slabs are both fine for me.

ricko · November 21, 2019 5:07AM

Keep them as is and get help for your OCD... Seriously, I would keep them as is.... different holders do not bother me.... Cheers, RickO

cameonut2011 · November 21, 2019 5:11AM

@TomB said:
I'd keep the Barber half in the old NGC holder and would be surprised if the half-dime crossed at grade.

But it stickered...

cameonut2011 · November 21, 2019 5:12AM

Is there really that much of a premium and nostalgia for old no line fatties?

spacehayduke · November 21, 2019 5:44AM

Thanks everyone for your thoughts. Looks like most would not cross so that gives me pause... I think the no line Fatty stays for sure, still not sure about the half dime tho'.

Best, SH

Cameonut · November 21, 2019 6:05AM

I think you should do what you want to do. If you like PCGS holders better and the cost is not an issue, then go for it.

And for what it is worth, it is possible to keep the pedigree - I have done it on a few CBH's.

Exbrit · November 21, 2019 6:14AM

You can cross the pedigree which I would definitely keep - but why cross them? Keep them as they are. If your are competing for a top spot in the registry - then maybe, but I'd still be hard pressed to do it.

topstuf · November 21, 2019 6:30AM

You could get an old pcgs slab and glue the front to anything.
Or you could leave them be which is what I'd do.

CCGGG · November 21, 2019 6:40AM

The slab doesn't matter to me, if it's NGC or PCGS. Maybe if I had a complete set except for a few, I'd cross them. If I did, I'd probably specify to cross only at current grade. You'd think with green CAC stickers they would.

Personally I'd run these two through the PCGS Restoration service if they were mine.