Should PCGS have a PQ grade?

ZoinsZoins Posts: 20,576 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited November 12, 2019 11:24PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Just ran across the following Hallmark slab which is the first time I've seen a TPG use "PQ" in the TPG grade.

Has any other TPG had a formal PQ grade?


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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 20,576 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 12, 2019 11:23PM

    @yosclimber said:
    PCGS already has + .

    True, I guess another option would be to rename + to PQ. Somehow, PQ sounds more fun and part of collecting history to me.

  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 3,925 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PCGS is already PQ...50 bucks that coin was white when graded...I just burnt down a J and DoorDashed a calzone from the Sandbox...now back to the new Star Wars stream on Disney+ ;)

    Erik
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 20,576 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 12, 2019 11:59PM

    @3keepSECRETif2rDEAD said:
    50 bucks that coin was white when graded...

    Probably. These toners are definitely a fun part of our hobby's history.

    I just burnt down a J and DoorDashed a calzone from the Sandbox...

    Nice. Love calzones! Getting hungry now.

    now back to the new Star Wars stream on Disney+ ;)

    Let us know how you like it. I've always wondered if Star Wars coins would get more attention from TPGs. My favorites are the Power of the Force (POTF) coins. It would be great to be able to get TrueViews for POTF coins :)

  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 3,925 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ...I feel like they named this one after me ;)

    ...The Mandalorian, episode 1 was dope...I will be watching the next one for sure ;)

    Erik
  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 1,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2019 3:15AM

    @Zoins said:

    @yosclimber said:
    PCGS already has + .

    True, I guess another option would be to rename + to PQ. Somehow, PQ sounds more fun and part of collecting history to me.

    Since there are already plus grades, any so-called “fun” and appeal to “collecting history” would be more than offset by confusion and redundancy. Frankly, I think the idea is silly.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions

    *Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my own personal opinions.

  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭✭

    That does look like a nice 64 or perhaps 65

    LCoopie = Les
  • rickoricko Posts: 71,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Grading is already subjective - no need to add further confusion.....PQ is just another term for 'eye appeal', an incredibly nebulous term. It amounts to telling people what they 'should' like....Cheers, RickO

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 16,459 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2019 6:08AM

    @Zoins said:

    @3keepSECRETif2rDEAD said:
    50 bucks that coin was white when graded...

    Probably. These toners are definitely a fun part of our hobby's history.

    I just burnt down a J and DoorDashed a calzone from the Sandbox...

    Nice. Love calzones! Getting hungry now.

    Just so you know, when God is jonesing for a calzone, he gets his deep fried.

    And, yes, + is PCGS's PQ.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 4,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2019 6:40AM

    No

    I believe they already have that with the plus grade.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 20,576 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @Zoins said:

    @yosclimber said:
    PCGS already has + .

    True, I guess another option would be to rename + to PQ. Somehow, PQ sounds more fun and part of collecting history to me.

    Since there are already plus grades, any so-called “fun” and appeal to “collecting history” would be more than offset by confusion and redundancy. Frankly, I think the idea is silly.

    Well the idea would be to convert the plus, not add something different then. But I do think that now that + has been established, the opportunity to have a PQ grade via a rename is much lower.

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 2,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2019 9:55AM

    @Zoins said:
    Just ran across the following Hallmark slab which is the first time I've seen a TPG use "PQ" in the TPG grade.

    Do you not feel comfortable deciding for yourself what looks good and what does not? The answer to your question is that PCGS already does this with market grading, they already tell you what to like by bumping grades for eye appeal.

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  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,429 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Obviously an MS-64+PQ/FBL/PL/SP

    But, they then wouldn't have room for the date. :neutral:

    Easily distracted Type Collector
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 20,360 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would say no. we already got enough stuff to go on the slab jmo

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 19,379 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would leave the coin as it is

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 19,379 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As for a PCGS PQ designation, I have advocated an original surfaces designation for at least 15 years now... Enough to the point that folks unfortunately are tired of reading about it. And today, it is clear that that ship sailed and the opportunity has been lost at the expense of those that enjoy originality as to those that are unable to recognize processed coins that should not be slab worthy. And that is the direction we are going...

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have a Boone commemorative half dollar in the same type of Hallmark holder. It is graded MS64PQ and described as Blast White on the lable. I bought it when blast white was all the rage. It has toned in the holder very similar to that 1953 Franklin. But only on the obverse. The reverse is still......blast white! Thank God.

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 4,655 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like the holder PCI used. Appears to tone coins like it as well.

  • CCGGGCCGGG Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2019 4:38PM

    Want a PQ sticker? Here you go... https://www.pqapproved.com/why-pq/

    Actually I have a few with both CAC and PQ stickers and I can still read the date, grade and even see the coin. :)

    Slab is getting a little crowded...

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