Welcome thoughts regarding this 1884 Carson City $20 Gold Piece

northcoin

Have had it for at least 15 years. Considering sending it in to PCGS and then CAC.

Hemispherical

@northcoin

Very nice! I do like the reverse more so than the obverse, it pulled me in first.

She may have took a bit of a hit on the hair on her head. Maybe another coin?

For myself, I wouldn’t hesitate sending it in to be entombed.

I do love gold!

BillJones

It all depends upon the grade on the holder. The pictures could support guesses from AU-58 to MS-63. If it has an MS-64 on it, the CAC submission might be a waste of time.

LanLord

I generally like the coin, but the rim on both sides was abused something fierce.

Were rim issues common on CC coins?

Boosibri

@LanLord said:
I generally like the coin, but the rim on both sides was abused something fierce.

Were rim issues common on CC coins?

I dont think there is anything out of the ordinary with the rims on the coin

RYK

Beautiful coin. Sharp as a razor. Is it cleaned?

Stuart

@northcoin Following Is an edited courtesy photo post of your 1884-CC $20 Lib to depict more details to assist forum members in evaluating it...

My best guesstimate based on the revised photos is a really attractive Eye-Appealing PQ AU-58 based upon what I interpret to be slight luster breaks in the unprotected fields, such as around the obverse stars.👍

ricko

Really nice CC gold.... slabbing would be a good idea.... Cheers, RickO

grip

Don't know my gold that well. But sure looks like a solid 64 to me.

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CharlotteDude

I like it as a solid AU-58 coin and very nice at that. If it were to end up in an MS holder, for me, the first thought would be “commercial unc” if I saw it. I would be surprised if it made it in a MS-63 holder... wait, actually nothing surprises me anymore. 😜

jonruns

A relatively common date I'd pay 58+ money for it...but a huge difference in value vs 62/63 so worth a shot...

blitzdude

Nice coin, certainly send it for PCGS slab, the sticker I wouldn't bother. Congrats!

logger7

@Stuart said:
@northcoin Following Is an edited courtesy photo post of your 1884-CC $20 Lib to depict more details to assist forum members in evaluating it...

My best guesstimate based on the revised photos is a really attractive Eye-Appealing PQ AU-58 based upon what I interpret to be slight luster breaks in the unprotected fields, such as around the obverse stars.👍

I agree, high end AU. How did you do the editing?

Stuart

@logger7 In reply to your below quoted question, I did some quick editing using Adobe PhotoShop Express on my iPad.

@logger7 said:

I agree, high end AU. How did you do the editing?

northcoin

Thanks all for your very helpful comments. The holder it is in now is not from one of the current top two tier grading companies so I would have to submit it to NGC or PCGS to get CAC consideration. FWIW it was labeled as a problem free MS-63 when it was graded some fifteen plus years ago.

metalmeister

Overall Rarity 15th of 19
Total known: Around 1500
81,139 minted

cameonut2011

AU58 or AU62

Stuart

@northcoin For Grading Comparison purposes to your coin, please refer to the following photos of a PCGS MS-62 1883-CC $20 Gold Liberty Double Eagle currently listed for sale on eBay.

Note the surface abrasion Contact Marks, but no apparent luster breaks in the unprotected field areas (such as around the obverse stars) — illustrating my point in an earlier post.

Hope this is helpful & informative... (Disclaimer: I have no commercial interest in this coin)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1883-CC-20-PCGS-Gold-Shield-MS-62-Carson-City-Liberty-Head-Gold-Double-Eagle/223506861783?hash=item340a0c0ed7:g:jwQAAOSwW6RcjB2p

northcoin

@ Stuart. Thanks again. Interesting to see the added MS62 priced at close to $22,000. Comparing the two, looks like more distracting hits or facial marks in the added example. Maybe why a 62 and not a 63?

asheland

Nice coin!

Stuart

@northcoin In reply to your following quoted post, and comparing images of these 2 coins, is precisely why many experienced collectors prefer to acquire an Eye-Appealing more affordable AU-58 over a more expensive commercial MS-60 to MS-62 example.

@northcoin said:
@ Stuart. Thanks again. Interesting to see the added MS62 priced at close to $22,000. Comparing the two, looks like more distracting hits or facial marks in the added example. Maybe why a 62 and not a 63?

Timbuk3

Very nice, I would definitely send it in for grading, good luck and kep us posted on the results !!!

logger7

ICG: 63/64; Anacs, 62-63; NGC and PCGS AU58, 58+ or better.

1northcoin

@northcoin said:
Thanks all for your very helpful comments. The holder it is in now is not from one of the current top two tier grading companies so I would have to submit it to NGC or PCGS to get CAC consideration. FWIW it was labeled as a problem free MS-63 when it was graded some fifteen plus years ago.

Thanks again for the additional most helpful responses.

Justacommeman

@1northcoin said:

@northcoin said:
Thanks all for your very helpful comments. The holder it is in now is not from one of the current top two tier grading companies so I would have to submit it to NGC or PCGS to get CAC consideration. FWIW it was labeled as a problem free MS-63 when it was graded some fifteen plus years ago.

Thanks again for the additional most helpful responses.

It’s interesting that your posts come up as either 1northcoin or northcoin

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batumi

On a 'gtg, I would bet AU 58w/ CAC. At 22K in MS62, it certainly would be worth a roll of the dice. Nice looking coin btw, imo better obverse than the obverse pictured by another poster.

1northcoin

@Justacommeman said:

@1northcoin said:

@northcoin said:
Thanks all for your very helpful comments. The holder it is in now is not from one of the current top two tier grading companies so I would have to submit it to NGC or PCGS to get CAC consideration. FWIW it was labeled as a problem free MS-63 when it was graded some fifteen plus years ago.

Thanks again for the additional most helpful responses.

It’s interesting that your posts come up as either 1northcoin or northcoin

m

Relates to present photo posting issues with my primary computer currently unavailable.

Thanks for even noticing.

marcmoish

@Justacommeman said:

@1northcoin said:

@northcoin said:
Thanks all for your very helpful comments. The holder it is in now is not from one of the current top two tier grading companies so I would have to submit it to NGC or PCGS to get CAC consideration. FWIW it was labeled as a problem free MS-63 when it was graded some fifteen plus years ago.

Thanks again for the additional most helpful responses.

It’s interesting that your posts come up as either 1northcoin or northcoin

m

I also was wondering, many mos ago we had a case of one poster duking it out with his double.

Nice piece North, I can see it in a 61-62 holder.

tommy44

I like it a lot. Send that puppy in.