New Forum Rule - Trolls, Alts, and Bans
Hey all,
We did a bit of sleuthing and we’ve found the troll.
Today the accounts:
@Wabbit2313
@PedroP
@ZippyZip
Have all been permanently banned as they are all the same user.
If you take a look at the comment history you’ll see an embarrassing pattern of this user using multiple accounts to instigate issues on the forums.
Having to police stuff like this is frankly embarrassing for the community as a whole. It’s also a massive waste of time. All of the moderators of this forum have essential roles that are instrumental to positive improvements at PCGS, but instead, we waste time on stuff like this.
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New forum rule:
No alt, alternative or spare accounts. One account per member, no exceptions.
If we see you actively using more than one account we will ban the secondary account. I’ve noticed that many of you use alts to strategically bump your own posts. That stops now as well.
This rule will be posted in our stickied forum rule post shortly.
Brett Charville --- I work at PCGS
Comments
Well done!
Smitten with DBLCs.
I didn't know this was such a prolific problem... Thanks Brett!
I really didn't expect that from Wabbit though; we've had some good discussions.
Collector, occasional seller
Thanks for that! Great work!
Score one for the good guys! I still can't like Etc.
That's weird. I figured Pedro and Zippy were the same person, but I never would have guessed Wabbit was also the same person. Wabbit was much more reserved.
WOW, didn't realize so many alts, and just to bump a post.
"A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
Dat wascawy wabbit...huhuhuhuhuhu
Be vewy quiet...Bwett's hunting wabbit...huhuhuhuhuhuh
This was sorely needed. Great detective work.
Cheers
Bob
I recalled Wabbit but had no real impression of issues (that I remembered, anyway), I had high hopes for Pedro as he seemed to be well intentioned, but I knew Zippy was bad news and he was the only person on my "ignore" list (so far).
I still suspect that Zippy was the successor to the Oil2Olay member ID that started the "disagree" wars last year. I just checked out Zippy's instigating comments on the Heather Boyd thread and I see the same sorts of tactics and terminology.
This place is usually entertaining enough. I pity the person who needs to go to these lengths to create more drama and acrimony.
Wow the Spanish only multiple personality had Sybil beat
Wow, I saw three personalities.....all the same person?
bob
"I’ve noticed that many of you use alts to strategically bump your own posts."
Love to see them get called out too.
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Wow.
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Interesting, thanks for fixing this even though it was a waste of time that could have been better spent, as you @BrettPCGS have said, .
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@JBK said: "I still suspect that Zippy was the successor to the Oil2Olay member ID that started the "disagree" wars last year."
I did too and I suspected Oil2Olay was actually my "old lady."
I had high hopes for Pedro. I had been messaging him trying to buy the High Relief! Good thing that didn't go through.
Was there more than one wabbit? I never suspected that. Edit to add good work.
Multiple personalities and not just mere multiple names. Interesting.
Who would have thunk it!!
Just way too much time on their hands I guess.
Ok back to diggin.
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Really... Are they called Alts or Shill Bumpers?
"Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
Wow is all I can muster here.
Pretty pathetic if someone has to have 3 alts - must have real issues besides the fact he needed to talk to himself and keep THREE identities yikes!
Thank you.
And it was Good.
I knew it would happen.
never understood why people use alts anyways, seems to be a waste of time
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Awesome work @BrettPCGS @HeatherBoyd on ferreting out the alts!
There should/is a way to prevent this from happening in the first place but that would entail a instituting a “new user application” process.
ty
I wish we had the option of posting our city. One member on another forum lives 5 mi away from me and we were able to meet. It helps to know a poster's age too.
I feel so much cleaner now
Thank you! Collectors need a positive place to hang out and discuss their hobby. Alts and trolls dont positively impact a discussion. Don’t people have better things to do with their time?
...oh I Absolutely Love that you did this! It’s a bit tuff on me to lose the Wabbit but it’s one account per human, that’s all...what a Brilliant move! To all the folks that had more than one account (outside of forgetting a passcode), LOL! Hell Yeah PCGS!
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wow!! now that's a twist!!
Thanks!
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Wow! I did not see that coming. Thank you @BrettPCGS and @HeatherBoyd for cleaning house a bit, it is much appreciated.
weird!
Fantastic! Thanks for caring enough to keep this place active and healthy.
When I was the administrator of an unrelated hobby Internet forum we were able to identify and block members using the same IP address for multiple accounts. Perhaps there's a way to do this automatically to avoid all the drama and time waste. The only issue I could foresee is when members of the same family or same organization (coin shop) log in from the same IP address.
It takes about 50 legit members to overcome the effects of 1 troll.
Maybe @HeatherBoyd can clarify - I assume (??) that the troll/alt rule does not apply if someone has inadvertently set up two accounts, such as what Dagingerbeasttt (or whatever that crazy name was) did because he got locked out of his old ID. I assume (??) that the rule mainly applies to active alts.
As for Wabbit, I had a bit of sympathy until I went in today and read the mayhem that alter ego ZippyZip was trying to cause on a couple threads. Very odd and puzzling behavior. It did not seem at all like what I remembered about Wabbit under his main ID.
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I hope those of us who have floated in and out of the hobby aren't on the chopping block.
I have two other alts dating back 10 years or so because I couldn't remember the old passwords or emails.
Please don't ban me!
Ban them... but not me... hahaha
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There is no one else on the chopping block... for today
Heather Boyd
PCGS Senior Director of Marketing
I was wondering about the Spanish as it was too "book" as in written in English and then using an on line web translator, translated word to word into Spanish, copy and pasted.
It did not "flow".
Wow.. I have been here over twenty years.. and still only one account.... How have survived... Cheers, RickO
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Nice work, gang!
Are some people that bored or unhappy to create all that drama???