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cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,123 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 1, 2019 5:48PM in Precious Metals
Excuses are tools of the ignorant

Knowledge is the enemy of fear

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  • ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭

    Russia, what we already expected.

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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,123 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lots of red and purple. Should be good for gold, right?

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    corruption perception? Sounds like fake news . All those other countries I don't live in are so terrible ya sure :D But Everything here is great!!!

    I think the US is way more corrupt than that map shows . My state Mass ? half the state senators and house members wind up in jail, Mass should be purple , Illinois should be whatever is worse than purple black maybe Chicago is the literal corrupt anus of america :D . Rhode Island should be black filthy corrupt , wall to wall criminals , New York , new jersey purple or Black . Actually all the so called blue states in the US are disgustingly corrupt

    The UK should be purple what is corruption if the concept of a "royal family " doesn't describe it? They still have an Aristocracy , a whole class of hereditary parasites that can't be exterminated are holding huge wealth but providing no benefits to society .

  • CuKevinCuKevin Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭✭

    @bronco2078 said:
    corruption perception? Sounds like fake news . All those other countries I don't live in are so terrible ya sure :D But Everything here is great!!!

    I think the US is way more corrupt than that map shows . My state Mass ? half the state senators and house members wind up in jail, Mass should be purple , Illinois should be whatever is worse than purple black maybe Chicago is the literal corrupt anus of america :D . Rhode Island should be black filthy corrupt , wall to wall criminals , New York , new jersey purple or Black . Actually all the so called blue states in the US are disgustingly corrupt

    The UK should be purple what is corruption if the concept of a "royal family " doesn't describe it? They still have an Aristocracy , a whole class of hereditary parasites that can't be exterminated are holding huge wealth but providing no benefits to society .

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  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 1, 2019 8:10PM

    meat removed....

  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 1, 2019 7:26PM

    Oh, to keep it OT on the thread title.........smoked meats should always stimulate some banter...just sayin.., ha!

  • MilesWaitsMilesWaits Posts: 5,356 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow,,Bronco, I was looking for the “passionate banter” button but settled for ok, some else already quoted you.

    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,123 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is there a correlation of inflation or hyperinflation to corruption?

    Perhaps a correlation of poverty to corruption?

    Do the most impoverished have higher inflation? If so, how is that possible? How can there be too much money chasing too few things if everyone is poor?

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very interesting to read an article on transparency.

    It states it is drawing upon 13 business-people and expert assessments; but, it does not list them.

    Hmm... maybe there is a link... somewhere... Maybe a very fine print... somewhere... hmm....

    Not very transparent!

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,123 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hemispherical said:
    Very interesting to read an article on transparency.

    It states it is drawing upon 13 business-people and expert assessments; but, it does not list them.

    Hmm... maybe there is a link... somewhere... Maybe a very fine print... somewhere... hmm....

    Not very transparent!

    They actually do seem to be quite transparent. Dig around.

    https://www.transparency.org/whoweare/accountability/who_supports_us/2

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,123 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2, 2019 6:05AM

    This ought to get Jmski going...

    _"With a score of 71, the US, dropped four points since last year to earn its lowest score on the CPI in seven years. The country is currently witnessing threats to its system of checks and balances, as well as an erosion of ethical norms at the highest levels of power.

    The low score comes at a time of growing nativist populist sentiment, a rise in hate crimes, trenchant political polarisation and the longest government shutdown in US history. All of these factors combined only exacerbate the loss of public trust in America’s foundational institutions"_

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:
    This ought to get Jmski going...

    _"With a score of 71, the US, dropped four points since last year to earn its lowest score on the CPI in seven years. The country is currently witnessing threats to its system of checks and balances, as well as an erosion of ethical norms at the highest levels of power.

    The low score comes at a time of growing nativist populist sentiment, a rise in hate crimes, trenchant political polarisation and the longest government shutdown in US history. All of these factors combined only exacerbate the loss of public trust in America’s foundational institutions"_

    You left out the real corruption , healthcare , congress , and college football B)

  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @Hemispherical said:
    Very interesting to read an article on transparency.

    It states it is drawing upon 13 business-people and expert assessments; but, it does not list them.

    Hmm... maybe there is a link... somewhere... Maybe a very fine print... somewhere... hmm....

    Not very transparent!

    They actually do seem to be quite transparent. Dig around.

    https://www.transparency.org/whoweare/accountability/who_supports_us/2

    Thanks @cohodk, that is excellent. But I was seeking the sourcing material for the article.

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why does Saudi Arabia score exactly 50? stoning women to death for driving cars doesn't technically equal corruption if you kill the rich women also? Pushing gays off rooftops is not corrupt because they push the rich ones and poor off in equal proportions ?

    Perhaps countries are given bonus points if we buy oil from them or they buy bombs from us? Points are subtracted if they are not customers ?

    If we sponsor a coup in Venezuela will it's score go up or down? ;)

  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2, 2019 6:58AM

    Lol, all of the backers of the report seem to be in the countries ranked the highest. No details on the criteria used in the rankings. What are some of the criteria used in the reports compiled by this small group of 13 individuals?

    I find it somewhat interesting that the transparency org is funded by groups from the same countries who rank highest in the report, most all of which are European, no elitism there, by golly.

    And this will get cohodk going - Tucker Carlson reports significant layoffs in "news organizations", including buzzfeed and CNN due to expiration of a $2 billion defense bill (no transparency or accountability) signed by Obama on his way out the door in 2017, which has been used to fund propaganda and disinformation against Trump in the effort to remove him from office. This is documented by Alex Jones directly referencing the H.R. funding bill from 2017.

    A prime example of which is this:

    The low score comes at a time of growing nativist populist sentiment, a rise in hate crimes, trenchant political polarisation and the longest government shutdown in US history. All of these factors combined only exacerbate the loss of public trust in America’s foundational institutions"

    Yep, absolutely no propaganda bias there. Gee, I wonder where all this polarization is coming from.

    Speaking of hate crimes - Twitter is banning posters who make comments that these newly-unemployed "reporters" should "learn to code" - banning them for "hate speech" when that is exactly the same language prince Obama used in 2009 when he was pontificating that unemployed coal miners from West Virginia and Kentucky should "learn to code" if they wanted to find new jobs. It wasn't "hate speech" when prince Obama said it. Interesting, don't you think?

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,823 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good corruption, bad corruption. Got it.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • WildIdeaWildIdea Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m too skeptical the article doesn’t have its own agenda to push to believe much of it.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,823 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All articles have an agenda these days.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • ADGADG Posts: 438 ✭✭✭

    ......This is documented by Alex Jones.............

    OMG.

  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,850 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's documented in the Congressional Record. OMG.

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  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ADG said:
    ......This is documented by Alex Jones.............

    OMG.

    you have to admit Alex is prettier than Rachel Maddow

  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,850 ✭✭✭✭✭

    you have to admit Alex is prettier than Rachel Maddow

    I didn't need that this early in the day. Where's the Dramamine?

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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,123 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hemispherical said:

    @cohodk said:

    @Hemispherical said:
    Very interesting to read an article on transparency.

    It states it is drawing upon 13 business-people and expert assessments; but, it does not list them.

    Hmm... maybe there is a link... somewhere... Maybe a very fine print... somewhere... hmm....

    Not very transparent!

    They actually do seem to be quite transparent. Dig around.

    https://www.transparency.org/whoweare/accountability/who_supports_us/2

    Thanks @cohodk, that is excellent. But I was seeking the sourcing material for the article.

    Search that webite and you shall find your answer. Looks like multitudes of sources.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,123 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ADG said:
    ......This is documented by Alex Jones.............

    OMG.

    Yeah....sometimes jmski says some pretty funny stuff.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,123 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To keep this PM related though....how about some comment on the corruption/poverty/inflation triplex?

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,823 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:
    To keep this PM related though....how about some comment on the corruption/poverty/inflation triplex?

    Simple. All three are a result of "transfer of wealth."

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,123 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:
    To keep this PM related though....how about some comment on the corruption/poverty/inflation triplex?

    Simple. All three are a result of "transfer of wealth."

    How can there be inflation if the people have no money?

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,823 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2, 2019 8:13PM

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:
    To keep this PM related though....how about some comment on the corruption/poverty/inflation triplex?

    Simple. All three are a result of "transfer of wealth."

    How can there be inflation if the people have no money?

    Transfer of wealth is an intentionally slow process caused by corruption and inflation that results in poverty for some. People have money, otherwise there would be no economy. Those with no money still consume. Somebody's paying for that consumption.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,823 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2, 2019 9:22PM

    What the OP's link doesn't show: the data behind the chart

    ". . .the United States has fallen four points deeper into corruption than last year. The U.S. now ranks below Luxembourg, Estonia and France, coming in at number 22 on the chart."

    Note that this data and chart are based on perception. Perception is usually based on what we are told.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,123 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 3, 2019 7:02AM

    @derryb said:
    What the OP's link doesn't show: the data behind the chart

    ". . .the United States has fallen four points deeper into corruption than last year. The U.S. now ranks below Luxembourg, Estonia and France, coming in at number 22 on the chart."

    Note that this data and chart are based on perception. Perception is usually based on what we are told.

    I think perception is more what we see than hear. For example, those that listened to the nightly news over the last decade would have concluded the USA has declined into a morass of doggy do, while those who travelled from sea to shining sea would have seen American greatness.

    The question to ask is are we now seeing the muck that lies beneath the swampy water, or have we simply made the swamp bigger?

    But regarding your wealth transfer, is it from poor to rich or rich to poor. Would proposed tax law as offered by some politicians such as 70% tax on super high incomes or massive estate taxes slow this wealth transfer?

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,123 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like we all agree that hyperinflation is most prevalent in poor and corrupt counties, but why do many feel it's presence in imminent in the USA?

    Is the "perception" that the USA is equally poor and corrupt?

    Is hyperinflation really the result of excessive debt or more due to political, social and economic disfunction?

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,079 ✭✭✭✭✭

    why can't there be more than one reason?

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One wonders if such information can be accurately compiled...and if true, why does it continue? Everyone cannot be in on the corruption.... or is it just the one's with the ultimate power that keep the corruption going.... "Shut up or die."....Cheers, RickO

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,823 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 4, 2019 11:39AM

    @ricko said:
    why does it continue? Everyone cannot be in on the corruption.... or is it just the one's with the ultimate power that keep the corruption going....Cheers, RickO

    Those with the power to stop it let it slide as long as they continue to get their little piece of the pie. Voters only get a choice between two bad pies.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,123 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:

    @ricko said:
    why does it continue? Everyone cannot be in on the corruption.... or is it just the one's with the ultimate power that keep the corruption going....Cheers, RickO

    Those with the power to stop it let it slide as long as they continue to get their little piece of the pie. Voters only get a choice between to bad pies.

    Voters get what they deserve. If all the pies are bad then the voters need to demand good pies. If voters keep eating bad pie then they will continue to be given bad pie.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,823 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:

    @ricko said:
    why does it continue? Everyone cannot be in on the corruption.... or is it just the one's with the ultimate power that keep the corruption going....Cheers, RickO

    Those with the power to stop it let it slide as long as they continue to get their little piece of the pie. Voters only get a choice between to bad pies.

    Voters get what they deserve. If all the pies are bad then the voters need to demand good pies. If voters keep eating bad pie then they will continue to be given bad pie.

    The cook makes sure the good pies never see the light of day.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Or maybe you have to be dead to get the good pies...

    It's all about what the people want...

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:

    @ricko said:
    why does it continue? Everyone cannot be in on the corruption.... or is it just the one's with the ultimate power that keep the corruption going....Cheers, RickO

    Those with the power to stop it let it slide as long as they continue to get their little piece of the pie. Voters only get a choice between to bad pies.

    Voters get what they deserve. If all the pies are bad then the voters need to demand good pies. If voters keep eating bad pie then they will continue to be given bad pie.

    So it was voters fault we had a choice of trump or hillary? :D ya ok :D

    If voting changed anything they would make it illegal

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,123 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 4, 2019 12:07PM

    @bronco2078 said:

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:

    @ricko said:
    why does it continue? Everyone cannot be in on the corruption.... or is it just the one's with the ultimate power that keep the corruption going....Cheers, RickO

    Those with the power to stop it let it slide as long as they continue to get their little piece of the pie. Voters only get a choice between to bad pies.

    Voters get what they deserve. If all the pies are bad then the voters need to demand good pies. If voters keep eating bad pie then they will continue to be given bad pie.

    So it was voters fault we had a choice of trump or hillary? :D ya ok :D

    If voting changed anything they would make it illegal

    Yes...it is our fault. Cant get elected if you get no votes.

    Wanna send a message...no one vote. Silence is deafening, make it loud.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,823 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @bronco2078 said:

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:

    @ricko said:
    why does it continue? Everyone cannot be in on the corruption.... or is it just the one's with the ultimate power that keep the corruption going....Cheers, RickO

    Those with the power to stop it let it slide as long as they continue to get their little piece of the pie. Voters only get a choice between to bad pies.

    Voters get what they deserve. If all the pies are bad then the voters need to demand good pies. If voters keep eating bad pie then they will continue to be given bad pie.

    So it was voters fault we had a choice of trump or hillary? :D ya ok :D

    If voting changed anything they would make it illegal

    Yes...it is our fault.

    Wanna send a message...no one vote. Silence is deafening, make it loud.

    You first.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,123 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    @bronco2078 said:

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:

    @ricko said:
    why does it continue? Everyone cannot be in on the corruption.... or is it just the one's with the ultimate power that keep the corruption going....Cheers, RickO

    Those with the power to stop it let it slide as long as they continue to get their little piece of the pie. Voters only get a choice between to bad pies.

    Voters get what they deserve. If all the pies are bad then the voters need to demand good pies. If voters keep eating bad pie then they will continue to be given bad pie.

    So it was voters fault we had a choice of trump or hillary? :D ya ok :D

    If voting changed anything they would make it illegal

    Yes...it is our fault.

    Wanna send a message...no one vote. Silence is deafening, make it loud.

    You first.

    No one ever remembers second.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,823 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    @bronco2078 said:

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:

    @ricko said:
    why does it continue? Everyone cannot be in on the corruption.... or is it just the one's with the ultimate power that keep the corruption going....Cheers, RickO

    Those with the power to stop it let it slide as long as they continue to get their little piece of the pie. Voters only get a choice between to bad pies.

    Voters get what they deserve. If all the pies are bad then the voters need to demand good pies. If voters keep eating bad pie then they will continue to be given bad pie.

    So it was voters fault we had a choice of trump or hillary? :D ya ok :D

    If voting changed anything they would make it illegal

    Yes...it is our fault.

    Wanna send a message...no one vote. Silence is deafening, make it loud.

    You first.

    No one ever remembers second.

    No problem, ego not important to everyone.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well that's some pretty weak banter! C'mon ladies, mix it up!

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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,123 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5, 2019 10:35AM

    @Baley said:
    Well that's some pretty weak banter! C'mon ladies, mix it up!

    Im tryin'....but no one wants to be second.

    I think i killed it when i equated hyperinflation with dictatorship and poverty. I guess America got's smoe work to do.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,123 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5, 2019 10:40AM

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    @bronco2078 said:

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:

    @ricko said:
    why does it continue? Everyone cannot be in on the corruption.... or is it just the one's with the ultimate power that keep the corruption going....Cheers, RickO

    Those with the power to stop it let it slide as long as they continue to get their little piece of the pie. Voters only get a choice between to bad pies.

    Voters get what they deserve. If all the pies are bad then the voters need to demand good pies. If voters keep eating bad pie then they will continue to be given bad pie.

    So it was voters fault we had a choice of trump or hillary? :D ya ok :D

    If voting changed anything they would make it illegal

    Yes...it is our fault.

    Wanna send a message...no one vote. Silence is deafening, make it loud.

    You first.

    No one ever remembers second.

    No problem, ego not important to everyone.

    Dont need an ego for your voice to be heard. In fact, the most humble usually have the least to say. Btw---i notice you have nearly 2x the posts of me in kess time. 🌞🦖

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:

    @ricko said:
    why does it continue? Everyone cannot be in on the corruption.... or is it just the one's with the ultimate power that keep the corruption going....Cheers, RickO

    Those with the power to stop it let it slide as long as they continue to get their little piece of the pie. Voters only get a choice between to bad pies.

    Voters get what they deserve. If all the pies are bad then the voters need to demand good pies. If voters keep eating bad pie then they will continue to be given bad pie.

    Have you run for office? I have found that the machine dictates even at the local level.

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,123 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @drwstr123 said:

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:

    @ricko said:
    why does it continue? Everyone cannot be in on the corruption.... or is it just the one's with the ultimate power that keep the corruption going....Cheers, RickO

    Those with the power to stop it let it slide as long as they continue to get their little piece of the pie. Voters only get a choice between to bad pies.

    Voters get what they deserve. If all the pies are bad then the voters need to demand good pies. If voters keep eating bad pie then they will continue to be given bad pie.

    Have you run for office? I have found that the machine dictates even at the local level.

    Sometimes in order to fix something you need to let it break completely.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk....We shall see if that works in Venezuela.....getting pretty close to completely broken. Cheers, RickO

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,123 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    @cohodk....We shall see if that works in Venezuela.....getting pretty close to completely broken. Cheers, RickO

    Not a democracy. No economy. Declining population Will always be a mess.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    more like simulate banter :#

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