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What is the primary difference between a pawn shop and a coin shop?

abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

Is it the inventory? The class of owner? The knowledge of the employees? The prices?
I've read here where members walk into a pawn shop and walk out with a total rip and also stories
where members walk into a coin shop and out again in disgust. I've also read it the other way around too.
Your opinions?

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  • GreeniejrGreeniejr Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭

    The simple answer is that pawn shops have to have liscenced pawn brokers and can offer collateralized loans. They can have different holding laws than coin shops for purchases. Coin stores tend to have much more inventory of coins and coin related accessories. The latter is not always true but mostly

  • mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,079 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ^^ that. It's about the business model. Either one can be helpful or useless to a collector, depending on the particulars, but the biggest difference is that they make their money different ways.

    mirabela
  • LeroyLeroy Posts: 186 ✭✭✭

    Before the internet you could get some smokin' deals at pawn shops because the owners couldn't possibly know the value of everything in their inventory. Now, the first thing they do is pull up comparables on the computer. Took all the fun out of hitting the pawn shops on a weekend.

  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Probably best for another thread, yet I'd love to read stories of hits collectors have made with purchasing coins at their local pawn shop.

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,461 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 24, 2019 7:34PM

    The primary difference is that a coin shop deals in coins. A pawn shop deals with anything and everything.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Actually a lot of difference between the two, as @Keets pointed out.... I have never found good deals in the few pawn shops around here...never any coins. I stopped browsing them a couple of years ago. The antique shops are far more interesting. Cheers, RickO

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,093 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @abcde12345 said:
    Is it the inventory? The class of owner? The knowledge of the employees? The prices?

    All of the above and more, as others have stated :smile:

    Successful transactions with : MICHAELDIXON, Manorcourtman, Bochiman, bolivarshagnasty, AUandAG, onlyroosies, chumley, Weiss, jdimmick, BAJJERFAN, gene1978, TJM965, Smittys, GRANDAM, JTHawaii, mainejoe, softparade, derryb, Ricko

    Bad transactions with : nobody to date

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    Also coin shops are usually glad to see collectors; pawn shops treat them as the enemy ... at least that has been my experience.

    Then you didn't come to my shop.
    I was both.
    I pawned some VERY nice collections. One I really really hoped would default. But it didn't. Early type in BU. (raw but nice)

    A pawnbroker who KNOWS what he is doing will loan HIGH on coins because they are liquid at a moment's notice.

    I tried and tried to convince the other pawnbrokers in my assn. to attend the ANA seminars at the PAWN conventions.
    No dice. I loved those guys. Their turning down or trying to rip coins just gave ME a huge advantage. :):)

    Smart coin dealers should get a pawn license. Even if only to have another avenue to attract coins to the shop.

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I should add that ....collections.... came in REPEATEDLY! Really teased me. :D
    That's another reason to loan high on good stuff. It comes back again and again. B)

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,554 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My approach is I like to help dealers in hopes that it could be a mutually beneficial relationship. I have had coin dealers emailing me about on advice for tokens, medals and political items. The pawn shop guys treated me like a pariah. I could not break through that barrier.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You go to a pawn shop to get "rooked."
    You go to a coin shop to get "hooked."

  • ElmhurstElmhurst Posts: 795 ✭✭✭

    When I was in high school, my local shop also had a pawn license. That's probably how he was able to stay in buiness.

  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,422 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You have obviously never been in a pawn shop or a coin shop.

  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,334 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I really think it depends on who owns what, they are all just coin dealers in the end....right?

    I still hate most of them, but not all of them. :)

  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    B&M shops sell coins and coin related items. Pawn shops sells some coins and anything and everything else !!! ;)

    Timbuk3
  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Average number of teeth belonging to the clientele.

  • SilverProofQuarter1883SilverProofQuarter1883 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If Rich from Pawn Stars showed up then it would be a pawn shop. 👍

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,639 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @markelman1125 said:
    If Rich from Pawn Stars showed up then it would be a pawn shop. 👍

    Who is Rich?

    GrandAm :)
  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Elmhurst said:
    When I was in high school, my local shop also had a pawn license. That's probably how he was able to stay in business.

    Hmmmm....So when you graduated from high school the local shop lost its pawn license?
    :)

  • BustDMsBustDMs Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe a better question may be: What is the difference in a coin shop and a bucket shop?

    A real coin shop has an inventory, supplies, a library and the willingness to help develop long term collectors.

    A bucket shop, disguised as a coin shop, has little inventory and is only looking to buy items cheaply to flip to real coin dealers. Their library consists of a Redbook and a greysheet. You couldn’t find any supplies other than a few 2X2’s and a package of flips. Their knowledge of the real market is limited and they do not attend any major shows.

    Q: When does a collector become a numismatist?



    A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.



    A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    instead of criticizing a Pawn Shop and essentially the entire Pawn Industry, why not question people/collectors who actually take coins to a Pawn Shop???

    this thread is similar to every discussion which impugns a Dealer who rips/buys something from a collector but praises the collector with an atta-boy who does the same thing?? when someone takes something into a Pawn Shop they typically make an offer that can be accepted or rejected, yet the Pawn Shop is always the bad guy.

    people need to accept a little responsibility for their actions.

  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:

    @markelman1125 said:
    If Rich from Pawn Stars showed up then it would be a pawn shop. 👍

    Who is Rich?

    This is Rick ( the guy in the middle)

    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've never seen a nail gun or air compressor for sale at the coin shop

    Steve

    Promote the Hobby
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,461 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 26, 2019 8:15AM

    @GRANDAM said:

    @markelman1125 said:
    If Rich from Pawn Stars showed up then it would be a pawn shop. 👍

    Who is Rich?

    My ex brother in law says he was " born Rich, he'll die Rich and is going to be 'filthy rich' in between."
    Poor guy.

  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,446 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are 3 major pawn shops in my area, all say the other guys are fences, but they are fine upstanding citizens. The most highly reputable of the three paid melt for an early gold proof set that an ex-employee of mine had stolen from her grandmother. The pawn guy was careful, knew the person was a crook but also knew the grandmother would never press charges. The crook asked me after the transaction, what the set was worth. I think the proceeds kept her high for a week or so.

    ANA-LM, NBS, EAC

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