MS-65 PL Morgan!!!??

Jcld · July 23, 2018 3:44PM

I have been hunting for a nice 1904-S for my Morgan collection and stumbled on this, on the Ebay. Anyone heard of this grading company, WCG?

cameonut2011 · July 23, 2018 3:46PM

Yuck... run.

It isn't mint state much less PL.

Smudge · July 23, 2018 3:48PM

No, and that's no 65.

cameonut2011 · July 23, 2018 3:49PM

WCG should stand for White Collar Gouge Job.

CoinCrazyPA · July 23, 2018 3:59PM

Pass

Josh32 · July 23, 2018 4:50PM

Mint Shit 65 Poop Like

thefinn · July 23, 2018 4:56PM

@Elemint said:
One of many "Junk Slabbers" out there. This coin is EX45 cleaned worth $36 at best.

https://www.cointalk.com/threads/wcg-world-coin-grading.32602/

http://postman180.tripod.com/coins_slabcompanies.html

I think an '04-S is worth a bit more.

Jcld · July 23, 2018 4:56PM

@Elemint said:
One of many "Junk Slabbers" out there. This coin is EX45 cleaned worth $36 at best.

https://www.cointalk.com/threads/wcg-world-coin-grading.32602/

http://postman180.tripod.com/coins_slabcompanies.html

Junk slabber is correct. Thank you for the info.

blitzdude · July 23, 2018 6:51PM

Ummmm, nope! lol

cameonut2011 · July 23, 2018 6:56PM

@Elemint said:
NTC (Numistrust Corporation) has been around for awhile. They were bought out in 2010 by former graders who have spent a lot of time, money and effort to try and turn it into a top notch grading company. I want to give them a plug!

http://ntccoin.com/

Spending money to make a coin less liquid and less valuable: Priceless.

Colonialcoin · July 23, 2018 7:22PM

Tell the seller that you may be interested in that coin.......if it CAC’s!

messydesk · July 23, 2018 7:49PM

"We Can't Grade"

HighRelief · July 23, 2018 7:50PM

It is a fake coin

cameonut2011 · July 23, 2018 7:55PM

@messydesk said:
"We Can't Grade"

I always miss the really obvious ones...

thefinn · July 23, 2018 9:03PM

@HighRelief said:
It is a fake coin

And you know that because...

SeattleSlammer · July 23, 2018 9:17PM

Love the extra long serial number. There’s a database somewhere likely on multiple floppy disks with that grade forever memorialized .... just in case.

rln_14 · July 23, 2018 9:33PM

I wish I could unsee that coin

Elcontador · July 23, 2018 10:35PM

To je puni govana

Timbuk3 · July 24, 2018 12:11AM

Terrible !!!

giorgio11 · July 24, 2018 4:56AM

I have hoiked up better-looking stuff than that in the morning

Kind regards,

George

ricko · July 24, 2018 8:29AM

Wow... Run, run away fast.....That is worth melt in my opinion... Cheers, RickO

BillJones · July 24, 2018 9:08AM

It may have been P-L, but now there is too much wear to tell.

Jcld · July 24, 2018 11:42AM

People are bidding on this thing!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1904-S-MORGAN-SILVER-DOLLAR-BETTER-DATE-SAN-FRANCISCO-MINT-99-CENTS/223071661582

johnny9434 · July 24, 2018 12:00PM

@Jcld said:
People are bidding on this thing!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1904-S-MORGAN-SILVER-DOLLAR-BETTER-DATE-SAN-FRANCISCO-MINT-99-CENTS/223071661582

i can see a possible negative in there future

Kkathyl · July 24, 2018 12:10PM

fraud slabber indeed. I did pluck a few good coins in the past by a company called NCG but no way to tell.

Hallco · July 24, 2018 12:19PM

@johnny9434 said:

@Jcld said:
People are bidding on this thing!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1904-S-MORGAN-SILVER-DOLLAR-BETTER-DATE-SAN-FRANCISCO-MINT-99-CENTS/223071661582

i can see a possible negative in there future

Who knows. The 2 guys that were selling the fake 85-CC Morgans in VF(and they had several of them!!!)all got positive feedback! "Great coin", "Very nice", "Good Seller", "Happy with this coin" A+A+A+! Whatever! SMH

johnny9434 · July 24, 2018 12:35PM

@Hallco said:

@johnny9434 said:

@Jcld said:
People are bidding on this thing!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1904-S-MORGAN-SILVER-DOLLAR-BETTER-DATE-SAN-FRANCISCO-MINT-99-CENTS/223071661582

i can see a possible negative in there future

Who knows. The 2 guys that were selling the fake 85-CC Morgans in VF(and they had several of them!!!)all got positive feedback! "Great coin", "Very nice", "Good Seller", "Happy with this coin" A+A+A+! Whatever! SMH

yes i agree

LanceNewmanOCC · July 24, 2018 2:18PM

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worst coin graders?
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pbj · July 25, 2018 12:50AM

This is in the description!! :
"make your decision wisely.....PLEASE NOTE: all items guaranteed authentic....coins on here are for sale...they're not listed here for an on approval basis.....they are to be sold AS IS....there are no returns....if you want to check coins out before a purchase we recommend you visit a coin shop.."

UNBELIEVABLE!

batumi · July 25, 2018 1:48PM

I would guess this 'grading service' is based in Shanghai just so they don't have to go far from the factory to obtain these slugs.

Jimnight · July 25, 2018 2:16PM

Never heard of them... and I do not agree with that grade either.

BillJones · July 25, 2018 2:46PM

@batumi said:
I would guess this 'grading service' is based in Shanghai just so they don't have to go far from the factory to obtain these slugs.

In business school they call that "logistics" and "vertical integration."

batumi · July 26, 2018 12:10AM

@Elemint said:

@Jcld said:
People are bidding on this thing!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1904-S-MORGAN-SILVER-DOLLAR-BETTER-DATE-SAN-FRANCISCO-MINT-99-CENTS/223071661582

Thanks for the scoop. I just placed a bid of $2.00 on this super gem. Ho, ho!

If they wouldn't have used the coarse grit grinding wheel on this 'superb gem', it may have went 68 or maybe 69!