@fiftysevener said:
Always interested in sharp shooting but never able to hit a coin in mid air of course.
Really not hard to hit a coin in mid air if you use a 12ga with number 9 shot at ~20 to ~30 yards.
You are a better man than I am. I've missed lots of clays using a shotgun and they are (?%?) much bigger.
I usually can break 23 or 24 a round shooting clays (Trap) and that's using 7 1/2 shot with a full choke. Although I wouldn't recommend it, "If I were trying to hit a coin" I'd be a bit closer (say 20 to 30 yds) and use 9's with an improved cylinder. Should be able to hit a nickle or quarter without much trouble. 9's should you give you "almost" twice as many pellets as 7 1/2's per oz.
I never shoot my coins.... They are special. So, I run tactical courses and shoot targets...Then later, spend coins (but not my collection ).... It is fun though, to set up small targets for marksmanship. We usually use small chocolate chip cookies at distance... that way, no clean up and the critters get a treat...also makes a noticeable hit. Cheers, RickO
I hope some of you get to go to an open "plinking range." Folks put all sorts of "trash" out and shoot it up. Once a month there is a clean-up day. The spent bullets and fragments have been left there for years. One afternoon I picked up 32 pounds of lead to sell to the scrap guy in town.
@fiftysevener said:
You are gonna need high power to put a hole in that coin. To penetrate that Ike I used a 52 grain boat tail spitzer at an estimated 3900 fps
My thoughts on the disagreeable practice of leaving a "disagree" without an explanation for further discussion:
If you can't add something to a discussion, just disagree without posting a reason. Then, some folks who don't see through this ruse will think you are informed on the topic while others will surmise that you don't.
@ricko said: @Tomthemailcarrier .....Really? A disagree without an explanation or discussion?? Cheers, RickO
I enjoy the interesting and knowledgeable discussions about coins on these boards. I read and am exposed to more than enough political arguments and debates throughout the day. Coins are my escape to a time in our country’s past. Discussing issues like guns or abortion get pretty heated and end up changing no ones mind imho. Instead they tear at friendships and civility.
@ricko said: @Tomthemailcarrier .....Really? A disagree without an explanation or discussion?? Cheers, RickO
I enjoy the interesting and knowledgeable discussions about coins on these boards. I read and am exposed to more than enough political arguments and debates throughout the day. Coins are my escape to a time in our country’s past. Discussing issues like guns or abortion get pretty heated and end up changing no ones mind imho. Instead they tear at friendships and civility.
A discussion must be civil, with the topic defined and including ONLY very informed folks on both sides stating their case. When this occurs, a person who has an open mind can have their opinion changed. For example, I know a person who was once an opponent of the death penalty. Now, he has suggested that a Pay-Per-View channel with proceeds going toward our National Debt would be a swell idea.
@Tomthemailcarrier ...Thank you for your clarification. That being said, as you can see, an amazing amount of people here are involved with both coins and guns. Also, for the most part, the postings have been very civil and interesting. With such a diverse and large membership, it is not surprising that interests will be many and varied. Most members here conduct themselves civilly - though there are always a few that get emotional. When I see threads I do not agree with or one's getting raucous, I skip them. Cheers, RickO
“On Friday the 19th Annie Oakley, the world-famous shot, will give one of her old-time exhibitions of trick shooting at the Gun Club. If you have the nerve to stand up to it, she might shoot an apple off the top of your head or shoot the ashes off the tip of your cigarette or shoot a nickel out of your fingers; and for her it is child’s play to smash five flying targets before they can touch the ground.”
These words appeared in the March 17, 1920 issue of the Pinehurst Outlook.
I am fortunate - coins, guns, and golf - a great trifecta! Any of you up for the apple off the top of your head trick? I'd do the nickel out of my fingers.
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
@blitzdude said:
Coin and guns don't mix at all. Guns are for the weak, ignorant and those obsessed with power / control. Coins are for the people. Semper Fi!
@ricko said: @Tomthemailcarrier .....Really? A disagree without an explanation or discussion?? Cheers, RickO
I enjoy the interesting and knowledgeable discussions about coins on these boards. I read and am exposed to more than enough political arguments and debates throughout the day. Coins are my escape to a time in our country’s past. Discussing issues like guns or abortion get pretty heated and end up changing no ones mind imho. Instead they tear at friendships and civility.
It's only issue to those people who MAKE it an issue. There are threads I don't like either...so as my parents told me when I was 5, ignore them and move on. The only people being uncivil are the users being triggered by the sight of a firearm and a coin, side by side. Firearms are part of the fabric of the United States of America, and that will NEVER change.
@ricko said: @Tomthemailcarrier .....Really? A disagree without an explanation or discussion?? Cheers, RickO
I enjoy the interesting and knowledgeable discussions about coins on these boards. I read and am exposed to more than enough political arguments and debates throughout the day. Coins are my escape to a time in our country’s past. Discussing issues like guns or abortion get pretty heated and end up changing no ones mind imho. Instead they tear at friendships and civility.
It's only issue to those people who MAKE it an issue. There are threads I don't like either...so as my parents told me when I was 5, ignore them and move on. The only people being uncivil are the users being triggered by the sight of a firearm and a coin, side by side. Firearms are part of the fabric of the United States of America, and that will NEVER change.
Right on the mark @ShadyDave.
For example, I have learned to ignore all threads about the performance of the US Postal Service. No sense whipping that old horse anymore.
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
Re the Stone mountain video, and the person shooting over the top of the M60, instead of behind it.
Last month, I attended my 40th Army reunion when our unit disbanded. Among the toys we were allow to shoot, mostly M4's for us old timers who had never shot one, was an M2, Ma Deuce, .50 cal machine gun on a tripod. We had to be able to correctly prep it to fire, and I was the only one who would agree to shoot it, and hopped down behind it. opened the tray, loaded the belt with the M9 showing (they had laid the belt out upside down), double charged it, and locked down the bolt-latch release, and the NCO commented that apparently I still knew something about it. After being green lighted, I got to fire it, but fired over the sights, not through the sights, and adjusted fire based on impact and tracer trails.
@ShadyDave said: "Firearms are part of the fabric of the United States of America, and that will NEVER change."
Hate to say it but it will. Powerful progressive forces, our global enemies, and even the UN have been trying/ succeding to weaken our laws (legally I might add), erase our history, dumb down our children, and change the political landscape. Even a past President and his Attorney General were behind a scam to sell guns to drug dealers in order to be able to get folks to get behind gun confiscation.
Y'all do know a handgun is just a tool to use to fight your way back to your primary weapon - such as a shotgun (best for self defense)
Very true. Every time my home is invaded, I use my handgun to fight my way to my shotgun, then I use my shotgun to fight my way to my turret. From there, I can ingnite my napalm moat and I have a clear line of sight over the entire estate grounds (including my underground coin vault), so I can rain hot lead on the hapless intruders who are now trapped inside my ring of death.
@Washingtoniana - maybe @ricko can add all that to his repertoire when he teaches self defense class. Whatever it takes to best incapacitate the threat. But what about the threat of our own government? Ya might need more than a ring of death,
@Insider2 said: @ShadyDave said: "Firearms are part of the fabric of the United States of America, and that will NEVER change."
Hate to say it but it will. Powerful progressive forces, our global enemies, and even the UN have been trying/ succeding to weaken our laws (legally I might add), erase our history, dumb down our children, and change the political landscape. Even a past President and his Attorney General were behind a scam to sell guns to drug dealers in order to be able to get folks to get behind gun confiscation.
You're thinking too linearly. The 2nd amendment is safe for a reasonable length of time, maybe another generation or two, with no black swan event. But within that timeframe will be a black swan that will reset us toward conservativism, just as they always have in the past. Progressivism grows (festers?) in times of peace and stability, but the thing about future unpredictability is that it's so predictable.
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@Namvet69 said:
Are there any holes coins out there that were hit by Annie Oakley? Peace Roy
Yes... Annie Oakley counter stamped all the coins with her name she tossed in the air and shot at Wild West Shows later giving them to kids. However as they are in great demand today just like anything else many counterfeits exist.
If one ever happened to turn up in my family circle, it might just be the real deal !!!
That would be neat.
An excerpt from a family history piece my Aunt was working on before she passed.
Speaking of her Dad......
@Namvet69 said:
Are there any holes coins out there that were hit by Annie Oakley? Peace Roy
Yes... Annie Oakley counter stamped all the coins with her name she tossed in the air and shot at Wild West Shows later giving them to kids. However as they are in great demand today just like anything else many counterfeits exist.
If one ever happened to turn up in my family circle, it might just be the real deal !!!
That would be neat.
An excerpt from a family history piece my Aunt was working on before she passed.
Speaking of her Dad......
Very cool Rosco!
I own this which without a doubt is one of the coolest exonumia items I've ever had the opportunity to purchase.
1892 Buffalo Bill's Wild West Company – Obverse 38mm Diameter Medal Off Metal Brass Die Adjustment Trial Strike
A unique obverse test strike struck on a thick over sized brass planchet for a 1892 prize medal for Buffalo Bill's Wild West Company.
William Fredrick Cody had commissioned London die-sinkers Baddeley & Reynolds to design this medal to be struck in bronze during one of his overseas tours with Annie Oakley when they performed for Queen Victoria.
To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
@USAFRETWI said:
$50 for a 4 year permit, “assault weapons” must be registered by the end of this month. What can I say it’s CA.
"assault weapons"...thanks for putting that in quotes. the "term" is ludicrous. (reminds me of "newspeak")
assault is either a noun or a verb. you can make an assault with a weapon, for example. you can also make an assault with words, or just about anything.
similarly, almost anything can be used as a weapon.
anyone opposed to "assault weapons" should sell their coins as they may have been used to assault someone, or as a weapon, at some point.
The term is/was concocted sollely to arouse those who have no experience or knowledge of guns.
Or the Constitution
Or history
Or being independent
Or protection of their loved ones or possessions.
@topstuf said:
The term is/was concocted sollely to arouse those who have no experience or knowledge of guns.
Or the Constitution
Or history
Or being independent
Or protection of their loved ones or possessions.
...and to SCARE the totally ignorant including most of the "news readers" on TV who call magazines for holding bullets - "clips."
the most dangerous part is loading primers and getting the right speed on the powder. When the Top 5-6 companies create a supply shortage then you will see more sqibbs and miss fires because loaders start to substitute. Of course if you can hit the head of a Kennedy your doing alright.
I was stopped on I-80 for a burned out headlight, and the trooper asked me about the magazine in my glove compartment when I opened it to get my registration.
For a moment there, I started looking around the car to find a Coin World or something.
Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally
I got stopped last year at night leaving work. The trooper came over to the passenger side. I keep my gun in a carrier inside a black tote on the passenger seat. I rolled down my window and put my hands on the wheel and when he poked his flashlight in I told him I have a CC license and keep a loaded gun in my tote on the seat. His reply was "I know, I saw it already." Then he told me he was going to put my bag on the floor in the back seat.
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I usually can break 23 or 24 a round shooting clays (Trap) and that's using 7 1/2 shot with a full choke. Although I wouldn't recommend it, "If I were trying to hit a coin" I'd be a bit closer (say 20 to 30 yds) and use 9's with an improved cylinder. Should be able to hit a nickle or quarter without much trouble. 9's should you give you "almost" twice as many pellets as 7 1/2's per oz.
Do it standing with one hand and one shot. And a 45 ACP revolver.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gfeature=youtu.be
You are gonna need high power to put a hole in that coin. To penetrate that Ike I used a 52 grain boat tail spitzer at an estimated 3900 fps
I never shoot my coins.... They are special. So, I run tactical courses and shoot targets...Then later, spend coins (but not my collection
).... It is fun though, to set up small targets for marksmanship. We usually use small chocolate chip cookies at distance... that way, no clean up and the critters get a treat...also makes a noticeable hit. Cheers, RickO
I like to blow up bowling balls with magnum 12ga slugs, but I digress.
http://macrocoins.com
I hope some of you get to go to an open "plinking range." Folks put all sorts of "trash" out and shoot it up. Once a month there is a clean-up day. The spent bullets and fragments have been left there for years. One afternoon I picked up 32 pounds of lead to sell to the scrap guy in town.
3900 ?? WTF are you putting in those loads?
38 grs. IMR 4064 is safe in my gun even for 55 grainers. Sorry if I have caused this thread to wander.
@Tomthemailcarrier .....Really? A disagree without an explanation or discussion??
Cheers, RickO
My thoughts on the disagreeable practice of leaving a "disagree" without an explanation for further discussion:
If you can't add something to a discussion, just disagree without posting a reason. Then, some folks who don't see through this ruse will think you are informed on the topic while others will surmise that you don't.
I think that there are some great videos of Annie Oakley on youtube!
I knew it would happen.
I enjoy the interesting and knowledgeable discussions about coins on these boards. I read and am exposed to more than enough political arguments and debates throughout the day. Coins are my escape to a time in our country’s past. Discussing issues like guns or abortion get pretty heated and end up changing no ones mind imho. Instead they tear at friendships and civility.
A discussion must be civil, with the topic defined and including ONLY very informed folks on both sides stating their case. When this occurs, a person who has an open mind can have their opinion changed. For example, I know a person who was once an opponent of the death penalty. Now, he has suggested that a Pay-Per-View channel with proceeds going toward our National Debt would be a swell idea.
@Tomthemailcarrier ...Thank you for your clarification. That being said, as you can see, an amazing amount of people here are involved with both coins and guns. Also, for the most part, the postings have been very civil and interesting. With such a diverse and large membership, it is not surprising that interests will be many and varied. Most members here conduct themselves civilly - though there are always a few that get emotional. When I see threads I do not agree with or one's getting raucous, I skip them. Cheers, RickO
Well stated @ricko.
As to this: "When I see threads I do not agree with or one's getting raucous, I skip them." I love them. Arguing is in my
nature.
Reminded me of Annie Oakley who spent time here in Pinehurst from 1915-1922. I still see lots of memorabilia from that era around town. Here is one exhibition from back then (copied from https://pinehurst.com/news/throwback-thursday-celebrating-annie-oakleys-time-in-pinehurst/)
“On Friday the 19th Annie Oakley, the world-famous shot, will give one of her old-time exhibitions of trick shooting at the Gun Club. If you have the nerve to stand up to it, she might shoot an apple off the top of your head or shoot the ashes off the tip of your cigarette or shoot a nickel out of your fingers; and for her it is child’s play to smash five flying targets before they can touch the ground.”
These words appeared in the March 17, 1920 issue of the Pinehurst Outlook.
I am fortunate - coins, guns, and golf - a great trifecta! Any of you up for the apple off the top of your head trick? I'd do the nickel out of my fingers.
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I encourage all to read what is available about Annie Oakley.
She truly was an amazing person.
It's only issue to those people who MAKE it an issue. There are threads I don't like either...so as my parents told me when I was 5, ignore them and move on. The only people being uncivil are the users being triggered by the sight of a firearm and a coin, side by side. Firearms are part of the fabric of the United States of America, and that will NEVER change.
Right on the mark @ShadyDave.
For example, I have learned to ignore all threads about the performance of the US Postal Service. No sense whipping that old horse anymore.
“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!
Re the Stone mountain video, and the person shooting over the top of the M60, instead of behind it.
Last month, I attended my 40th Army reunion when our unit disbanded. Among the toys we were allow to shoot, mostly M4's for us old timers who had never shot one, was an M2, Ma Deuce, .50 cal machine gun on a tripod. We had to be able to correctly prep it to fire, and I was the only one who would agree to shoot it, and hopped down behind it. opened the tray, loaded the belt with the M9 showing (they had laid the belt out upside down), double charged it, and locked down the bolt-latch release, and the NCO commented that apparently I still knew something about it. After being green lighted, I got to fire it, but fired over the sights, not through the sights, and adjusted fire based on impact and tracer trails.
I got a Kudo's Old Man when I was done.
@mustangmanbob
That would have been a blast!
@ShadyDave said: "Firearms are part of the fabric of the United States of America, and that will NEVER change."
Hate to say it but it will. Powerful progressive forces, our global enemies, and even the UN have been trying/ succeding to weaken our laws (legally I might add), erase our history, dumb down our children, and change the political landscape. Even a past President and his Attorney General were behind a scam to sell guns to drug dealers in order to be able to get folks to get behind gun confiscation.
Very true. Every time my home is invaded, I use my handgun to fight my way to my shotgun, then I use my shotgun to fight my way to my turret. From there, I can ingnite my napalm moat and I have a clear line of sight over the entire estate grounds (including my underground coin vault), so I can rain hot lead on the hapless intruders who are now trapped inside my ring of death.
Spider catches a fly.
@Washingtoniana - maybe @ricko can add all that to his repertoire when he teaches self defense class. Whatever it takes to best incapacitate the threat. But what about the threat of our own government? Ya might need more than a ring of death,
It must be easier for @Tomthemailcarrier to dish out 'disagrees' than fending off those would be K9 attackers with his 2nd amendment
@ricko
@Insider2
You're thinking too linearly. The 2nd amendment is safe for a reasonable length of time, maybe another generation or two, with no black swan event. But within that timeframe will be a black swan that will reset us toward conservativism, just as they always have in the past. Progressivism grows (festers?) in times of peace and stability, but the thing about future unpredictability is that it's so predictable.
http://macrocoins.com
.....cocking the gun's only one of many means to exercise our 2nd amendment
@rmpsrpms
How long is the wait on this one?
Hoard the keys.
If one ever happened to turn up in my family circle, it might just be the real deal !!!
That would be neat.
An excerpt from a family history piece my Aunt was working on before she passed.
Speaking of her Dad......
R.I.P Son 1986>2020
Very cool Rosco!
I own this which without a doubt is one of the coolest exonumia items I've ever had the opportunity to purchase.
1892 Buffalo Bill's Wild West Company – Obverse 38mm Diameter Medal Off Metal Brass Die Adjustment Trial Strike
A unique obverse test strike struck on a thick over sized brass planchet for a 1892 prize medal for Buffalo Bill's Wild West Company.
William Fredrick Cody had commissioned London die-sinkers Baddeley & Reynolds to design this medal to be struck in bronze during one of his overseas tours with Annie Oakley when they performed for Queen Victoria.
There are a lot of threads on this forum. If you do not like the subject of this thread, there are plenty of others.
@Broadstruck...That is a neat piece... surely one I would have purchased....Thanks for showing us... Cheers, RickO
"assault weapons"...thanks for putting that in quotes. the "term" is ludicrous. (reminds me of "newspeak")
assault is either a noun or a verb. you can make an assault with a weapon, for example. you can also make an assault with words, or just about anything.
similarly, almost anything can be used as a weapon.
anyone opposed to "assault weapons" should sell their coins as they may have been used to assault someone, or as a weapon, at some point.
The term is/was concocted sollely to arouse those who have no experience or knowledge of guns.
Or the Constitution
Or history
Or being independent
Or protection of their loved ones or possessions.
Do not forget coins
1.25 pounds of silver on the left.
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Bad transactions with : nobody to date
Hey Boston. Cool!
I have that in .22 LR.
@topstuf , hard to tell from the pic but yours was made in Germany?
Mine was made in Maine.
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It's a German made one. They were stopped by GCA-68 from importing so they switched to the PPK/S.
...and to SCARE the totally ignorant including most of the "news readers" on TV who call magazines for holding bullets - "clips."
the most dangerous part is loading primers and getting the right speed on the powder. When the Top 5-6 companies create a supply shortage then you will see more sqibbs and miss fires because loaders start to substitute. Of course if you can hit the head of a Kennedy your doing alright.
Best place to buy !
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Edited to add.......................perhaps this was @ricko in another life
Aerial Coin Shots
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My 460 Weatherby magnum is great for shooting pennies ( "cents" for the hard core ). Now you see it...Now you don't.
I just done put some stock grips on my 45 ACP revolver.
Whattya think?
The big target grips or the smaller stock ones?
@topstuf said: I just done put some stock grips on my 45 ACP revolver."
Never saw one of these in the box. Very nice. Target grips for me. What's the top of the box look like - never mind if it is plain.
Target all the way. I've never been fond of the stock grips.
That thing use full moon clips?
http://macrocoins.com
I was stopped on I-80 for a burned out headlight, and the trooper asked me about the magazine in my glove compartment when I opened it to get my registration.
For a moment there, I started looking around the car to find a Coin World or something.
I knew it would happen.
I got stopped last year at night leaving work. The trooper came over to the passenger side. I keep my gun in a carrier inside a black tote on the passenger seat. I rolled down my window and put my hands on the wheel and when he poked his flashlight in I told him I have a CC license and keep a loaded gun in my tote on the seat. His reply was "I know, I saw it already." Then he told me he was going to put my bag on the floor in the back seat.
Really nice model 25. Another vote for targets. Those N frames need bigger grips IMO.
Top of box is just plain wood .
I shoot either one just fine.
My hands just seem to "fit" the smaller version.
Oh well, it's only a screwdriver to change back and forth.