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June is Be Nice to Newbie Month

jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,792 ✭✭✭✭✭

You are required by management to either politely answer newbie questions or simply ignore them. Continued abuse of newbies will not be tolerated as being bad for the hobby.

Thank you,

Management

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,792 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinstartled said:
    Sure, save your rancor for the old timers.

    Exactly, they can take it. They are likely curmudgeons themselves. :wink:

  • OnastoneOnastone Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wait, continued abuse? So once or twice is alright? Are Newbies required to ask how much a coin is worth and follow up with a blurry pic? Is that a tranquil brook or a crooked creek? So many questions, so little time.

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Understood.

  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't recall being salty towards you but if so, I apologize. ;)

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  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,021 ✭✭✭✭✭

    jmlanzaf, so we are allowed to be abusive to you? ;)

    Doug
  • TurboSnailTurboSnail Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2, 2018 9:09PM

    We were all newbies at one point. And I do believe every member here are willing to welcome, answer and share their knowledge . The biggest issue was not our welcome committee. But once a while, a newbie would insist he/she knew more than our respectful members.

    To make this matter worst, some newbies would just post multiple topics for us to agree and say what they like to hear. As result, some of our members felt offended while others chose not to make any more comment on the same topic.

  • TurboSnailTurboSnail Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2, 2018 9:00PM

    @ms70 said:
    Ok..... Let's practice....

    LLOOK! THIS IS DEFINITELY A TRIPLE DIE! YOU CANT DENY IT!

    Now say something nice. o:)

    Yes it is worth

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2, 2018 8:57PM

    ms70, great sense of humor. You probably don't remember but via a PM years ago you taught me the ropes around here. I took your advise. Thanks.

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hydrant said:
    ms70, great sense of humor. You probably don't remember but via a PM years ago you taught me the ropes around here. I took your advise. Thanks.

    MS70 is a quality member!

  • BruceSBruceS Posts: 1,356 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I dont think anyone here has a problem helping out. But you have to question the motive of the posters with one post count, taking an upside down picture of a 2018 cent,

    Then taking the time to find a coin based chat board on the web,
    Start a thread, use broken English, not even asking question. But can't look up a question about the cent?

    Sometime people are just screwing with
    Us and it pretty obvious.


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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2, 2018 9:06PM

    @Hydrant said:
    ms70, great sense of humor. You probably don't remember but via a PM years ago you taught me the ropes around here. I took your advise. Thanks.

    I took a look through my PM archives and found it. I do remember now!

    You're welcome! I'm glad you stayed with us! :)

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2, 2018 10:48PM

    They are NOT HERE TO BETTER themselves Evidence by having NO TAKER for my genuine offer for a FREE "CherryPickers" Guide despite personal invitation and PMs to participate. We are not obligated to accommodate any shortcoming due to their own choosing :/ I agreed with @BruceS

    @TurboSnail said:
    We were all newbies at one point. And I do believe every member here are willing to welcome, answer and share their knowledge . The biggest issue was not our welcome committee. But once a while, a newbie would insist he/she knew more than our respectful members.

    To make this matter worst, some newbies would just post multiple topics for us to agree and say what they like to hear. As result, some of our members felt offended while others chose not to make any more comment on the same topic.

  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Alt/ trolls self-identify quickly. Silence or sarcastic derision are both acceptable. One of them is more fun.

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2, 2018 10:52PM

    boots anyone?

    ;)@BlindedByEgo

  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The action of making a purchase does not prove one's worth; it is one's actions and intentions that show the world one's honour.

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am confused.....who made a purchase of what and for who?

    @abcde12345 said:
    The action of making a purchase does not prove one's worth; it is one's actions and intentions that show the world one's honour.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,792 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DMWJR said:
    jmlanzaf, so we are allowed to be abusive to you? ;)

    yes. I'm used to it and far from a newbie.

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How long til July? ;)

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,792 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BruceS said:
    I dont think anyone here has a problem helping out. But you have to question the motive of the posters with one post count, taking an upside down picture of a 2018 cent,

    Then taking the time to find a coin based chat board on the web,
    Start a thread, use broken English, not even asking question. But can't look up a question about the cent?

    Sometime people are just screwing with
    Us and it pretty obvious.

    Some definitely are trolling. Others, it's not so obvious. And some of us have taken to universally flaming newbie posts.

    And frankly, sarcastic derision or any attention at all, is exactly what they want. If you really, really, really think they are trolls, you are far better served by ignoring them.

    And, if there is even the smallest chance that they are not trolls, then you are far better served by silence of a helpful response.

    If you drive away all the newbies, who will buy your coins when you are ready to sell?

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,792 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Paradisefound said:
    They are NOT HERE TO BETTER themselves Evidence by having NO TAKER for my genuine offer for a FREE "CherryPickers" Guide despite personal invitation and PMs to participate. We are not obligated to accommodate any shortcoming due to their own choosing :/ I agreed with @BruceS

    Yes, I agree that many of them are probably trolls. But trolls want attention, even negative attention, so why give it to them. And for any newbie truly an interested newbie, making them feel unwelcome makes us poor ambassadors to the hobby.

    The stamp hobby was killed off by a number of problems. But the sheer arrogance of old stamp collectors at coin shows was part of the problem. The Philatelist would have multiple letters to the editor every time the issue came up with people complaining about rudeness of dealers and other collectors to them when they asked naive questions.

    There's no upside to flaming a newbie, even if they are a troll.

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You meant good and no response is better than less than good response :) Thank you for trying to help our fellow collectors.....

  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,422 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A lot of the trolls don't answer back with any kind of legitimate reasoning.

    "May the silver waves that bear you heavenward be filled with love’s whisperings"

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  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :#

    @1Mike1 said:
    A lot of the trolls don't answer back with any kind of legitimate reasoning.

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    28 days

    @topstuf said:
    How long til July? ;)

  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ms70 said:
    Ok..... Let's practice....

    LLOOK! THIS IS DEFINITELY A TRIPLE DIE! YOU CANT DENY IT!

    Now say something nice. o:)

    When that guy found a tripled die obverse Kennedy, people gave him s*** claiming damage and more than horsing around. It was trolling, and abusive and included inflammatory remarks on character and personality.

    Not only did he have the Kennedy tripled die variety, but a much nicer one, and in later die state. It was a gorgeous piece.

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am late hours frolicking >:)

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Don't feed the troll" has always worked for me. Trolls crave attention and when they don't get it, they go away.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,422 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2018 2:31AM

    @Paradisefound said:
    I am late hours frolicking >:)

    Is that what you call it? I like to say "I'm having breakfast".

    "May the silver waves that bear you heavenward be filled with love’s whisperings"

    "A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Everyone has the inclination to think they have found "the big one" and quick $. Rare usually means you don't have it. After 2 stupid mistakes enough is enough. When even paradise has had enough that says it all. Ask your question, accept the advice and move on.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Paradisefound ...."I am late hours frolicking >:) "....Well... I would not be able to post if I was late night frolicking....I find it takes all my attention... :D
    As far as the main topic...I try to welcome new members, and be diplomatic in my responses. However, some have pushed the envelope a tad... and the offer from Paradisefound went unclaimed... which was strange.
    Cheers, RickO

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,792 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    @Paradisefound ...."I am late hours frolicking >:) "....Well... I would not be able to post if I was late night frolicking....I find it takes all my attention... :D
    As far as the main topic...I try to welcome new members, and be diplomatic in my responses. However, some have pushed the envelope a tad... and the offer from Paradisefound went unclaimed... which was strange.
    Cheers, RickO

    It may have been strange. It may be paranoia. If I posted a legitimate offer to send a free Silver Eagle to any member who simply provided me with an address, how many people would reject the offer from fear it might be some kind of scam?

    If I may invoke good old Coinside7 - he was an obvious troll. He repeatedly posted damaged pocket change and then argued with members who told him it was PMD pocket change. Of late, I've seen two newbies post a question and then actually mark the thread "answered" after a couple members told them it was nothing - and a couple members made sarcastic cracks. They may NOT have been trolls, but we do ourselves and the hobby no favor by treating them like they are Coinside7.1

    And @ricko I am not speaking of you. You are always positive and kind in your responses.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,792 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MANOFCOINS said:
    how long is a newbie a newbie? so I know when I can start my abuse.

    Either 100 posts OR 6 different posts with pictures of pocket change. :wink:

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,682 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2018 7:53AM

    Trolls show be ingnored.

    Doubled dies are not on my radar for the most part, especially the ones that require a minimum of a 10X glass to see them. I answered one of the suspected trolls once and an "old timer" warned me about it. I guess it goes with the old saying, “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice shame on me.” I might give a doubled die troll two or three answers, but after that it’s the cold shoulder; ignore them.

    Wasting our time with pocket change is not cool.

    And by the way, if June is be nice to newbies month, can we kick their butts in July? ;)

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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2018 8:35AM

    @Azurescens said:

    @ms70 said:
    Ok..... Let's practice....

    LLOOK! THIS IS DEFINITELY A TRIPLE DIE! YOU CANT DENY IT!

    Now say something nice. o:)

    When that guy found a tripled die obverse Kennedy, people gave him s*** claiming damage and more than horsing around. It was trolling, and abusive and included inflammatory remarks on character and personality.

    Not only did he have the Kennedy tripled die variety, but a much nicer one, and in later die state. It was a gorgeous piece.

    Just to put this out there, I never saw that thread. I just randomly said "triple die". This was not aimed at whoever that was. Just goofing around.

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2018 10:19AM

    No worries here. Your mention of a tripled die reminded me of it.

  • OnastoneOnastone Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have found the forum here to be well balanced between intelligent answers, humor, knowledgeable personalities, some sarcasm, cool giveaways, occasional ridiculous questions, great disputes between seasoned old timers, and the conversations almost always stay true to the topic of coinage!!!!!!! I'm sure the occasional Troll finds his/her way here, but doesn't last long. I've almost been here a year and I've learned a lot.

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Stupidity is the cultivation of Ignorance " William Gadus

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2018 10:19AM

    You'd be surprised;....all of my digits can do some wonders

    @ricko said:
    @Paradisefound ...."I am late hours frolicking >:) "....Well... I would not be able to post if I was late night frolicking....I find it takes all my attention... :D
    Cheers, RickO

  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The one thing I wish this forum software had was blocking threads from ignored users and having a larger block list. Some people can't help but feed the trolls, and it would keep more important threads on the first page.

  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Russ just rolled over!!!

  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MANOFCOINS said:
    how long is a newbie a newbie? so I know when I can start my abuse.

    Either 100 posts OR 6 different posts with pictures of pocket change. :wink:

    I had to disagree with this as SeanB has already had more than 6 different posts with pictures of pocket change and @jmlanzaf was kind enough to give me my first two **and only **disagrees when I gave SeanB a sarcastic reply to what he was asking. If I was new and wanted to learn about errors I would have been all over Paradisefound's challenge for a free Cherrypickers' guide, but he and others couldn't be bothered. They are just a bunch of trolls with no names and no introductions when they come on here. Real people used to introduce themselves when they met face to face, now we use screen names so we can hide behind our keyboard with no consequences to what we say. I have no use for people that hide behind a keyboard. I stand behind every post I make and I prove it by putting my name at the bottom and my last name is next to my icon and if anybody would like to meet face to face and talk coins or anything else below is my home address. My phone number is also listed in the Somerville phonebook if you would like to look me up and give me a call.

    Donato DiVecchia
    58 Belmont Street
    Somerville, MA 02143

    Hobbyist & Collector (not an investor).
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