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2010-P Grand Canyon ATB in Proof-Like finish found -- Others?
devious
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Taken directly from the Grand Canyon Puck thread.
My barber received these today. He had two different finishes. The sandblast matte finish and a brilliant finish. Both are P's. He wanted me to check if the brilliant one is by chance in error? He thought they both would have been the sandblasted look. Here are some photos I took on the spot to post here with his question. Thanks for any answers.
BRILLIANT:
SANDBLAST:
My barber received these today. He had two different finishes. The sandblast matte finish and a brilliant finish. Both are P's. He wanted me to check if the brilliant one is by chance in error? He thought they both would have been the sandblasted look. Here are some photos I took on the spot to post here with his question. Thanks for any answers.
BRILLIANT:
SANDBLAST:
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I agree: submit it and get it attributed.
Here's a warning parable for coin collectors...
I did email coinworld, so hopefully my barber will get a mention in CW . We shall see!
If it turns out that a whole batch skipped the vapor blasting step, it might become a collectible variety.
TD
<< <i>Are the top two pictures the obverse and reverse of the same coin?
TD >>
Yes, they are. I didn't have good light to use in the barber shop. Both sides were brilliant.
Or do they not allow that designation with the SP pieces?
The name is LEE!
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<< <i>Looks like a genuine processing error. However, since it is just a "one off" error (so far) it might not have a lot of collector interest.
If it turns out that a whole batch skipped the vapor blasting step, it might become a collectible variety.
TD >>
Another member in the Grand Canyon thread thought his was missing the sandblast as well. It'll be interesting to see if a small pop of brilliant coins appear. That coin posted by devious looks like it could go PL.
A possible DMPL P Puck?
This IS interesting. I just got my lot of GC's today -- still sealed. HMMMM. To open or not...
Box of 20
<< <i>Taken directly from the Grand Canyon Puck thread.
My barber received these today. He had two different finishes. The sandblast matte finish and a brilliant finish. Both are P's. He wanted me to check if the brilliant one is by chance in error? He thought they both would have been the sandblasted look. Here are some photos I took on the spot to post here with his question. Thanks for any answers.
BRILLIANT:
Methinks you got a real winner with this one, devious!!!!!
Wonder what Jason Fishman(Mr. Frosted Freedom Platinum) will have to say about it????
Care to share the Mint order number for that finish-nude piece?
I like both looks!
<< <i>Can't answer your question Devious, but hope you don't live up to your handle!
Care to share the Mint order number for that finish-nude piece? >>
First off, whatever my name has to do with me posting, I don't know. Let's just say...I was once famous on the Internet (even before Al Gore invented it). If you choose not to deal with me because of my handle, so be it. I'm not offended. But I do question why your remark?
As for the mint order number, I'll request it from my friend and post back here if he gives it up.
<< <i>First off, whatever my name has to do with me posting, I don't know. Let's just say...I was once famous on the Internet (even before Al Gore invented it). If you choose not to deal with me because of my handle, so be it. I'm not offended. But I do question why your remark? >>
Extraordinary coin presented.
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No implied malice -- just couldn't resist the obvious. Beware of humor (often bad) on this forum! (and congrat's on a potential great find)
On mine the reverse is more PL than the obverse.
Is it the same level of PL on both sides of your barber’s coin / do you see any waxy residue
that was present on some of the bullion coins?
Also..when you look at it today..look closely at the lettering on the reverse.
On mine around the lettering there appear to be little mounds / raised surfaces running into the alphabets…
hard to explain but IF you see it you will know what I am referring to - around the letters in “canyon”.
I am looking at it at 16X...Thanks
As some have suggested one possibility is that whatever is used in the sand blast process was running out (reservoir was empty).
Yes, that would be helpful to those of us with unopened boxes.
Is anyone intimately familiar with the vapor-blasting process?
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>Care to share the Mint order number for that finish-nude piece?
Yes, that would be helpful to those of us with unopened boxes.
Is anyone intimately familiar with the vapor-blasting process? >>
I beg your pardon??????? This is a family-oriented forum!!!!!!!
<< <i>So here's the deal, I am preparing another submission to PCGS this evening. Should I get it from my barber and submit it under their error service? >>
I would, why not. I think this is a quick score probably and I'd slab and flip that thing as fast as possible.
OK...so with a production error now looming...how many of you are ordering additional GC coins?
Thanks for all the comments.
Ceylon, I will respond to your inquiry more in detail when I have it in hand before boxing it up to send to our host. But I did not notice any 'wax' residue when I examined it yesterday. I just noticed it was in superior condition to the matte proof puck
<< <i>Devious,
On mine the reverse is more PL than the obverse.
Is it the same level of PL on both sides of your barber’s coin / do you see any waxy residue
that was present on some of the bullion coins?
Also..when you look at it today..look closely at the lettering on the reverse.
On mine around the lettering there appear to be little mounds / raised surfaces running into the alphabets…
hard to explain but IF you see it you will know what I am referring to - around the letters in “canyon”.
I am looking at it at 16X...Thanks
As some have suggested one possibility is that whatever is used in the sand blast process was running out (reservoir was empty). >>
Ceylon, would you mind posting some pics? It would make for an interesting comparison.
I sent in my buddies this morning but for anyone still waiting you can really see the difference between one of the other ones and this one. The face and neck area on washington is much brighter than the other ones and looks to me as tho part of it didn't get the matte finish. Gonna be interesting to hear from others as to what theres looks like and yes I scraped up enough dough to buy ones of these last night..............................Enjoy
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Jeff
Very nice looking ATB...............
<< <i>I got one of these "shiny" ATBs also. Got it last Friday and saved it because of the look. I shot a quick picture (really does not show the true lack of vapor blast but I gave it a shot). It is unfortunately going back to the mint because of the sizable chunk out of Washington's hair in the curls!!! I have no way to post the picture so I did the best I could.
Jeff >>
You are kidding .........aren't you?????
<< <i>
<< <i>I got one of these "shiny" ATBs also. Got it last Friday and saved it because of the look. I shot a quick picture (really does not show the true lack of vapor blast but I gave it a shot). It is unfortunately going back to the mint because of the sizable chunk out of Washington's hair in the curls!!! I have no way to post the picture so I did the best I could.
Jeff >>
You are kidding .........aren't you????? >>
I think his picture is more in line with the one I sent in and not the picture of the first OP. Yes there is a difference BUT I didn't think that our host would call mine an error. Whereas the first one posted the whole coin looks unmatted. It does appear there might be different levels as to how much each coin got blasted. I would put a premium on the ops coin while these others may get the 70 because of the brightnest. Only time will tell. lets see some more woohooooo Enjoy
I used to be famous now I just collect coins.
Link to My Registry Set.
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-specialty-sets/washington-quarters-complete-variety-set-circulation-strikes-1932-1964/publishedset/78469
Varieties Are The Spice Of LIFE and Thanks to Those who teach us what to search For.
Thank you for the images. We had received two reports with images from
readers. A staff writer has queried the Mint on the coins and we hope to
have news coverage in the Aug. 1 issue.
Sincerely,
William T. Gibbs, News Editor
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They are out there
<< <i>A staff writer has queried the Mint on the coins >>
So much for any new shipments having them.....
No I am not kidding. The OP's picture was taken with the plastic capsule on. My picture was taken with the capsule removed. After I took the photo, I did kind of chuckle a little because the lighting and angle make it look like the regular finish with an extra bright Washington. In hand, it really looks like most of the vapor blasting effect is not there. I have 5 of each of these issues and can assure you that there are differing levels of vapor blasting with this particular coin having the least. If I can get a better picture showing this tomorrow, I will. I also have 3 more in boxes that I will be opening later this week.
Jeff
P.S. Nobody commented on that giant chunk out of Washington's hair!
Also a pic on the letter N (second N in Canyon).
<< <i>Not the best of pics..The streaks are on the capusule
Also a pic on the letter N (second N in Canyon). >>
Looks vapor blasted to me.
I don't think it will matter the degree of blast. If your puck is blasted, I think you're done.
If ya got a a non-blasted bullion appearance P 2010 ATB coin, submit it.
That being said…it looks different in hand and is tough to capture it
Hopefully, more / better pics surface in the next few days.
<< <i>I would like to see other examples.
That being said…it looks different in hand and is tough to capture it
Hopefully, more / better pics surface in the next few days. >>
I have my friend's puck. I'll take pictures this evening. I am eating dinner at the moment now. Just browsing. And wanted to say this.
Definitely interesting though, and I suspect there very well may be a few without any indication of the blast finish.... we will see what turns up. Meanwhile, better order while you can.....
If you can look directly into the coin and see yourself -- you have a winner.
I kind of wish the other fellow who said he had sent it in would had confirmed whether or not the one he sent in for a friend had hairlines. They were hard to see just by looking at it. We never even bothered to look for flaws, but under my 60 watt incandescent bulb in the bathroom, I saw them right away. They look like a single wipe from NW-SE across the entire obverse. i wonder if this was a part of the minting process before the blasting stage? The reverse did not have the same, although there were a few minor hairlines.
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