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Eye Candy: 1799 bustie with Sweet Color....I think!
JGnumismatics
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Hey guys,
Saw this coin today at a local coin show and was curious on your guys thoughts on the color as well as how much value the color adds to this coin? Being a young numismatist, one of the largest problems I encounter is pricing coins with color. BTW, the coin is in a NGC XF45 Holder. I really enjoyed viewing the coin in hand, and I have yet to see a bustie like it in person.
Sorry for the lightbulbs in the pics... LOL, typical bad coin show lighting
Saw this coin today at a local coin show and was curious on your guys thoughts on the color as well as how much value the color adds to this coin? Being a young numismatist, one of the largest problems I encounter is pricing coins with color. BTW, the coin is in a NGC XF45 Holder. I really enjoyed viewing the coin in hand, and I have yet to see a bustie like it in person.
Sorry for the lightbulbs in the pics... LOL, typical bad coin show lighting
JG Numismatics
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1799 AU Draped Bust Dollar (B-10, BB-163) - Blue Peripheral Target Toning
Stuart
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<< <i> was curious on your guys thoughts on the color as well as how much value the color adds to this coin? >>
I'm probably in the minority and some folks like this kind of "color." For me it would be how much needs to be deducted off price, rather than how much to add. Sorry.
<< <i>I'm probably in the minority and some folks like this kind of "color." For me it would be how much needs to be deducted off price, rather than how much to add. Sorry. >>
Makes sense, the coin really stood out. But from prior experience I figured it was re toning of some sort. Oh well, on the hunt again!
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Depending on how aggressively the coin was cleaned this look can be subtle and sometimes attractive, but generally it just ends up looking like someone put lipstick on a pig (IMO). If you put a glass to the coin you should be able to see how the surfaces have been disturbed and marked by the cleaning.
- Jim
Several years back I became smitten with a bust half at a show with similar toning. It was the key date to the series, from a famous collection and pcgs graded to boot, so I
sold of a largish chunk of my collection at the time and reeled it in. Within a few months of owning it I realised that it did not fit my collection and I really didn't care for it so much.
I set out to find one with nice original surfaces, ironically in a pcgs details holder ! Still one of my faves to this day
<< <i>Always amazes me how much the geniuses around here can tell from pictures let along terrible pictures. You guys should be graders at PCGS. >>
i don't know about that geiuses part there...but most here could give most pcgs graders a run for their money looking at whats in some of their holders
we even pony up until pcgs gets the grade right
myself...i could break it down on "tell tale" signs i see...it's an old cleaning retoned even from that sub par image...no offence to OP
crappy images can bear fruits so some study those and have wisdom with um
crappy images to work with is part of this hobby
OP made a thread and rather then stay mute...we at least cared enough to reply...bash us if you desire
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<< <i>Always amazes me how much the geniuses around here can tell from pictures let along terrible pictures. You guys should be graders at PCGS. >>
i don't know about that geiuses part there...but most here could give most pcgs graders a run for their money looking at whats in some of their holders
we even pony up until pcgs gets the grade right
myself...i could break it down on "tell tale" signs i see...it's an old cleaning retoned even from that sub par image...no offence to OP
crappy images can bear fruits so some study those and have wisdom with um
crappy images to work with is part of this hobby
OP made a thread and rather then stay mute...we at least cared enough to reply...bash us if you desire
surely the OP appreciates time and opinions offered here >>
I appreciate all opinions and advice from all posters, tha'ts why I posted originally. Regardless of re-toning or not I thought it was something different and would gather thoughts. Sorry for the images, the color was hard to capture away from direct light. Interesting as I have noticed, true toned coins appear toned in even the shadowy light.
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<< <i>Always amazes me how much the geniuses around here can tell from pictures let along terrible pictures. You guys should be graders at PCGS. >>
Or not. I'd like to see it in hand.
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a diffuser that can catch the flash or other source of light with a prism and disperse it evenly over the coin somehow.
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Like the others, I'd like to see her in hand.