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Created On: 11/1/2009 8:24 AM
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 11/1/2009 8:24 AM
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This looks real to me. Sure hope so. What do you think?







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 11/1/2009 8:26 AM
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not chinese fakes?? There was a article on coinworld about the chinese counterfeiters getting into error coins.........won't that be a big problem for error collectors like you? How do you tell a fake from a real one???

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i take it that was a Buy it Now you pulled the trigger on??? link??
 11/1/2009 8:30 AM
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<< not chinese fakes?? There was a article on coinworld about the chinese counterfeiters getting into error coins.........won't that be a big problem for error collectors like you? How do you tell a fake from a real one??? >>



That is WHY I asked the question, are these know fakes?? they look good to me by the photos, but ...............

Any and all info is welcome

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 11/1/2009 8:31 AM
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Quarter planchet? Get the scale out. Very cool!

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Said Nickel planchet

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 11/1/2009 8:32 AM
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also, for the record there is something i dont like about the coins pictured (with the exception of the 'normal' Bicentennial)

the blank planchet looks to have partially upset rims and the other (o/c on 25c stock?) just doesnt feel right either
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>>Said Nickel planchet>>


nickel being a harder metal i would expect a soft strike
 11/1/2009 8:37 AM
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If the Ike dollar on the nickel planchet was real, I would expect the thing to be a lot more distended. Such a piece would have to be struck out of the collar (the ring that goes around the coin when it is struck which also gives it the reeded edge), and given that it would have bent to a degree.

No I think that this is a fake.

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 11/1/2009 8:40 AM
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When it arrives, examine the quality of workmanship very closely. If its a fake, you should be able to spot it rather quickly since the counterfeit IKE's I've seen are obvious.

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 11/1/2009 8:42 AM
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<< When it arrives, examine the quality of workmanship very closely. If its a fake, you should be able to spot it rather quickly since the counterfeit IKE's I've seen are obvious. >>



Can you see anything in the photos that says counterfeit to you!!

Are these commonly counterfeited?

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 11/1/2009 9:15 AM
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I'm not an error expert, but look at the shape of IKE's head and the spacing of (LIB)ERTY...

???

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 11/1/2009 9:42 AM
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Interesting thoughts, that you all

Even tho the seller said nickel blank, I do think the size is a quarter planchet.

Now Counterfeit Detectors please help on the IKE.

Can anyone say FOR SURE one way or the OTHER.



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 11/1/2009 9:43 AM
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My first thought was "real".

Then I looked at the listing. Seller has mostly jewelry, only one other item that is sort of numismatic. Has sold a bunch of other items, also mostly jewelry. Has one negative, for an item-not-received, the other feedback fine.

Based on that, I still think "real".

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 11/1/2009 9:51 AM
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<< My first thought was "real".

Then I looked at the listing. Seller has mostly jewelry, only one other item that is sort of numismatic. Has sold a bunch of other items, also mostly jewelry. Has one negative, for an item-not-received, the other feedback fine.

Based on that, I still think "real".

Congrats! Killer score!
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That was my thoughts, I had to jump on it. If real then I guess I suck and if fake then I guess I got suckered, anyway I figure it was worth the chance.

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 11/1/2009 10:02 AM
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I cannot conclusively tell from the image provided.

Your sample obverse would not produce the reverse that is on the error coin.

Since the obverse are reverse dies are different year (if the obverse matches only the 1975-1976 die) I would lean toward fake.

Once you have the coin in hand, have several examples of the eagle reverse coins per year (1971-1974 and 1977-1978) on hand and then start comparing the obverse and reverse dies. There were some subtle changes over the years that should help identify the actual year of mintage (if real).

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 11/1/2009 10:09 AM
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Why the reeding on the reverse?
 11/1/2009 10:17 AM
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I can't put my finger on it, but it just looks wrong.

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 11/1/2009 10:18 AM
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<< Why the reeding on the reverse? >>



Good Question ... perhaps metal flow that look kinda like reeding??????

I have no idea if this real or not after all the responses as I am not an Ike expert and apparently not an error expert either



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 11/1/2009 10:38 AM
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The only thing I see that is suspicious is the reeding below LAR on the reverse.

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