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double die or doubled die or double(d) die?
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From my experience more people refer to a doubled die coin as a DOUBLE die, leaving of the D. You can check this out by coining into fleabay at any time and searching on both terms. Double always wins over doubled. I actually think the D is dropped because of elision, which you may have learned about in grade school. Since the last letter of the first word is the same as the first letter of the second word, one of the D's gets dropped. What do you think?
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I was taught that the origin of "Doubled" in "Doubled Die" is "Hub Doubled", as in "Hub-Doubled Die".
But it's not that simple. As John Wexler likes to catalog "Families" of similarly doubled die coins, a given "doubled die" may not have been actively "doubled" (ie, doubled from two separate mis-aligned hubbings) but simply carries a nearly identical version of its upline doubled upline working hub. So its image is "doubled" but not actively doubled during the hubbing of the die itself.
And it may not be that simple. As I wrote in my Ike book, there are process variables at play during hubbing that could create rotational doubliing from mis-alignment stresses triggered by annealing-distortion dimensional changes: each such "doubled die" could carry any markers present on its upline not-doubled working hub so those markers may not necessarily prove the existence of a common upline doubled working hub.
Ikes are teaching us that unintended consequences of hubbing may be far more complex than implied by either "double" or "doubled".
The Ike Group has chosen to deal with the mind-boggliing complexity by avoiding any cataloging by implied or assumed hubbing mechanisms. Rather, we will simply be identifying the
Doubled Die" Ikes we feel are "Collectible" and relegating discussions of their creation to foot-notes or to our "Volume 2" in its present and subsequent editions. Rob, who suddenly has a headache. . .
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<< <i>From my experience more people refer to a doubled die coin as a DOUBLE die, leaving of the D. You can check this out by coining into fleabay at any time and searching on both terms. Double always wins over doubled. I actually think the D is dropped because of elision, which you may have learned about in grade school. Since the last letter of the first word is the same as the first letter of the second word, one of the D's gets dropped. What do you think? >>
I think that your theory is correct. They drop the "d" at the end of "doubled" because the next word, "die," begins with a "d."
Please re-read the OP's question.
...i always thought it was double died.
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Kinda like sellers like this who obviously have no clue what they are referring to.
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