Does anyone here collect the over mint marked coins?

golden · January 20, 2012 11:42AM

I was looking through the Red Book and noticed one of the over mint marked Lincolns. I found 11 over mint marks listed in the Red Book. They are :
1944 D/S Lincoln Cent
1946 S/D Lincoln Cent
1938 D/S Buffalo Nickel
1949 D/S Jefferson Nickel
1954 S/D Jefferson Nickel
1955 D/S Jefferson Nickel
1950 D/S Washington Quarter
1950 S/D Washington Quarter
1875 S/CC Trade Dollar
1882 O/S Morgan Dollar
1900 O/CC Morgan Dollar

Pcgs does not recognize the 1946 D/S Lincoln Cent. Has anyone here tried to collect these 10 interesting coins? I would try but have too many irons in the fire now.

crypto79 · January 20, 2012 11:49AM

rmpsrpms · January 20, 2012 11:59AM

My avatar is the 1956-D & S Lincoln Cent. It's a controversial coin, but when viewed in-hand I can't see how anyone could doubt it since a full and complete S is visible to the naked eye on a clean example. Admittedly, it is hard to photograph since 3D is still not a viable consumer technology and in-hand you have benefit of the perspective from both eyes...Ray

DIMEMAN · January 20, 2012 12:01PM

I do the dimes.

RichieURich · January 20, 2012 12:36PM

Had all of them in my variety set until I sold the 1875-S/CC Trade dollar. Still have the rest of them.

Surprisingly, there are more overmintmarks than large over small mintmarks. Can only think of 2 - 1891-S/s dime and 1856-S/s quarter.

tradedollarnut · January 20, 2012 12:50PM

Sonorandesertrat · January 20, 2012 1:05PM

You missed one: 1901 O/S $5

golden · January 20, 2012 1:38PM

<< You missed one: 1901 O/S $5 >>

That is a 1/0 in the date, not an O/S.

Sonorandesertrat · January 20, 2012 1:45PM

Oops, brain fart. I stand corrected.

garrynot · January 20, 2012 10:36PM

Here are two of John Wexler's pictures of the 1956-D 1S9 OMM. The second photo shows the polish lines on the reverse.

garrynot · January 20, 2012 10:39PM

This is John's photo of the debunked 1980 D/S.

ricko · January 20, 2012 11:53PM

I have the O/CC Morgan... wanted that for my CC series. Cheers, RickO

crypto79 · January 21, 2012 12:11AM

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Wow one of my fav coin in your set. Truly the king of Over mintmark American coins. Thanks for sharing

Priest · January 21, 2012 12:21AM

Debunked 1980 D/S, can someone explaine debunked, I have a 1981 D/S cent and it is just about the same.

rmpsrpms · January 21, 2012 12:48AM

Look at the photo of the 56-D/S and you'll see that the "S" is the right size for a mintmark. But for the 1980, the "S" is really tiny and there were no "micro S" punches in use in 1980. So it could not be a real mintmark there. Now, how a die scratch in the exact shape of an "S" got there who knows?

CaptHenway · January 21, 2012 12:51AM

I do not see an S on that 1956 die.

Priest · January 21, 2012 1:07AM

rmpsrpms, thank you, but here is some food for thought , if the MM is in the incorrect area why couldn't a punch from a different time and or a different coin have been used? I know we can go on and on about this, and let's face it as a error collector the whys and hows can blow minds. Again thank you for responding.

rmpsrpms · January 21, 2012 1:48AM

Yes, it could have been an intentional use of some sort of micro S mintmark punch. I am not sure if anyone has done overlays of every known punch used over the years and for all purposes, so it could very well be a real S. That would make it a fantasy piece made by mint employees. The 56-D/S is probably the same. As a joke a mint employee very lightly punched the S into the die, then maybe ground on it a bit to further obscure it so it would not be caught by the mint techs. Fun stuff!

rmpsrpms · January 21, 2012 1:53AM

<< I do not see an S on that 1956 die. >>

Yeah, it's hard to capture with a single photo. But even in John's photo you can see some remnants of the ENTIRE upper curve, the center bar, and the bottom serif plus a bit of the bottom curve.

If you get the shadows right, you can see the entire mintmark, but not with a single lighting arrangement. I've been pondering doing a composite arrangement that combines several photos to show the entire S. Maybe that will be my next mini project.

Now, if you are saying you can't see an S AT ALL, you need to get glasses dude!

CaptHenway · January 21, 2012 2:08AM

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<< I do not see an S on that 1956 die. >>

Yeah, it's hard to capture with a single photo. But even in John's photo you can see some remnants of the ENTIRE upper curve, the center bar, and the bottom serif plus a bit of the bottom curve.

If you get the shadows right, you can see the entire mintmark, but not with a single lighting arrangement. I've been pondering doing a composite arrangement that combines several photos to show the entire S. Maybe that will be my next mini project.

Now, if you are saying you can't see an S AT ALL, you need to get glasses dude! >>

Got all the glasses I need.

I see stray lines, but as I said I cannot see an "S"

Maybe you need to take off your rose-colored glasses.......

Bigrig52 · January 21, 2012 2:32AM

I found 3 of the 1956 D and S in a uncirculated roll..Sold 2 of them for $350.00 each

<< This is John's photo of the debunked 1980 D/S.

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Type2 · January 21, 2012 2:34AM

I found a bag with a bunch of this one onces. It's not in the red book but a nice one i think D/D/D.

crypto79 · January 21, 2012 3:02AM

<< I found a bag with a bunch of this one onces. It's not in the red book but a nice one i think D/D/D.

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Sent a bunch to forum members which was super cool. Still have mine and it is one of 2 moderns I own. Thanks again

rmpsrpms · January 21, 2012 3:24AM

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Got all the glasses I need.

I see stray lines, but as I said I cannot see an "S"

Maybe you need to take off your rose-colored glasses....... >>

Yep, stray lines of the exact curvature, size, and shape of the S mintmark in use at the time.

mr1931S · January 21, 2012 3:53AM

One Cent 1956 D/D RPM 1 is a favorite of mine.Somewhat dramatic and quite scarce.

rmpsrpms · January 21, 2012 4:00AM

<< One Cent 1956 D/D RPM 1 is a favorite of mine.Somewhat dramatic and quite scarce. >>

Like this one?

Overdate · January 21, 2012 4:05AM

<< My avatar is the 1956-D & S Lincoln Cent. It's a controversial coin, but when viewed in-hand I can't see how anyone could doubt it since a full and complete S is visible to the naked eye on a clean example. Admittedly, it is hard to photograph since 3D is still not a viable consumer technology and in-hand you have benefit of the perspective from both eyes...Ray >>

I don't have a problem seeing it, I just look for the blinking "S"!

DIMEMAN · January 21, 2012 7:42AM

You cent guys shouldn't feel bad......these same people think the 1936/29-S dime is just well placed die cracks or gouges.

johnny9434 · January 21, 2012 8:49AM

does the 1882 o/s morgan silver $ count? if so i got 3 or 4

Harry779 · January 21, 2012 9:06AM

An S can show up in the strangest places:

JRocco · January 21, 2012 9:13AM

1956 D/S east

1956 D & S northwest

1944 D/S

1951 D/S west OM-1

1951 D/S south OM-2

mr1931S · January 21, 2012 12:08PM

1956 D & S northwest with image

The "s" shape doesn't even look like a mintmark to me.I think this one was debunked awhile back.

Like this one?

That's the one.Nice image.

Total mintage was about 4 million.

rmpsrpms · January 21, 2012 12:21PM

Wiles did his examination on an EDS example, but the mint tech who punched the S ground 99% of it away and the MM doesn't show well on EDS coins. This is an example of a variety that shows best on later die states, as the metal has a chance to relax a bit and show the hidden detail. There are a number of such coins which only start to show, for instance, a 3rd lightly-stamped extra MM after significant die wear.

mr1931S · January 21, 2012 6:56PM

1944 D/S

This is one that has alluded me. I don't even want to think about how many 1944 D pennies I've looked at
trying to find one with a D over an obvious,to me at least,"S."

mr1931S · January 21, 2012 7:00PM

eluded

Does anyone here collect the over mint marked coins?

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