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Dahlonega Rattler: My Most Recent D-Mint Purchase
GeorgeKellogg
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I purchased this 1849-D quarter eagle in a PCGS rattler (VF35), at the August 2011 Atlanta Area Coin Dealers Sunday Show. It is the only Dahlonega gold piece that I own in a rattler holder. The coin was photographed by forum member Todd Pollock (BluCC Photos) at the 2012 FUN Show.
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<< <i>10:00 on reverse....test cut? >>
It looks "as made" to me, possibly a planchet defect or a "struck through" area, where the foreign material has fallen out. The interior of the defect doesn't look like it was cut with a knife and the reeded edge is intact. A test cut normally wouldn't be that deep and wide and if it was, it would certainly cut into the reeded edge.
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<< <i>10:00 on reverse....test cut? >>
It looks "as made" to me, possibly a planchet defect or a "struck through" area, where the foreign material has fallen out. The interior of the defect doesn't look like it was cut with a knife and the reeded edge is intact. A test cut normally wouldn't be that deep and wide and if it was, it would certainly cut into the reeded edge. >>
Asking from a strictly lack of knowledge on my part, what would be to cut into the reeded edge. What would be the usefulness of doing so. After all the coin is graded?
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<< <i>10:00 on reverse....test cut? >>
It looks "as made" to me, possibly a planchet defect or a "struck through" area, where the foreign material has fallen out. The interior of the defect doesn't look like it was cut with a knife and the reeded edge is intact. A test cut normally wouldn't be that deep and wide and if it was, it would certainly cut into the reeded edge. >>
Asking from a strictly lack of knowledge on my part, what would be to cut into the reeded edge. What would be the usefulness of doing so. After all the coin is graded? >>
To make sure it is gold/real.
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<< <i>10:00 on reverse....test cut? >>
It looks "as made" to me, possibly a planchet defect or a "struck through" area, where the foreign material has fallen out. The interior of the defect doesn't look like it was cut with a knife and the reeded edge is intact. A test cut normally wouldn't be that deep and wide and if it was, it would certainly cut into the reeded edge. >>
Asking from a strictly lack of knowledge on my part, what would be to cut into the reeded edge. What would be the usefulness of doing so. After all the coin is graded? >>
Many years ago, when gold coins were "coin of the realm," it was common for them to be given a "test cut" in order to verify that they were genuine. A coin of base metal that had been gold plated (to simulate a genuine gold coin) could be easily identified with a test cut.
<< <i>10:00 on reverse....test cut? >>
That's the first thing I noticed and it sure does look like a test cut. I'm surprised PCGS didn't body bag this coin.
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<< <i>10:00 on reverse....test cut? >>
That's the first thing I noticed and it sure does look like a test cut. I'm surprised PCGS didn't body bag this coin. >>
there are so few quality examples of this coin...they gave it a break on that i am sure. i would. it appears to have originality...and that's about the best you can hope for with these being as rare as they are. i think it would be a shame to not grade it. now, if it were an 1893-p or something like that...they yeah, it's got to be marked correctly. but in this case...
the fact that it's in a rattler holder makes it even better because you know it hasn't been in anyone's hands for quite some time now. i would definitely be keeping it in there.
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<< <i>10:00 on reverse....test cut? >>
The interior of the defect doesn't look like it was cut with a knife and the reeded edge is intact. A test cut normally wouldn't be that deep and wide and if it was, it would certainly cut into the reeded edge. >>
I use a jeweler's file for my test cuts, doesn't everyone?
<< <i>Nice look but if resubmitted so you think it would body bag due to the nicks? >>
As previously mentioned, I believe the rim defect is "as made" (see my post above). PCGS must have thought so too, as they graded the coin instead of giving it a "no grade." They were very harsh in the early days about not grading coins with problems.
As to the "nicks," I think what you are referring to are the tiny tabs of plastic that extend out over the rim on rattler holders. At first glance, this looks like a rim nick, but actually is part of the holder. I suppose these tiny tabs were the predecessor of the current prongs.
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<< <i>10:00 on reverse....test cut? >>
It looks "as made" to me, possibly a planchet defect or a "struck through" area, where the foreign material has fallen out. The interior of the defect doesn't look like it was cut with a knife and the reeded edge is intact. A test cut normally wouldn't be that deep and wide and if it was, it would certainly cut into the reeded edge. >>
Asking from a strictly lack of knowledge on my part, what would be to cut into the reeded edge. What would be the usefulness of doing so. After all the coin is graded? >>
Whatever caused the hit (cut or Mint) happened before it was slabbed. It's in a rattler so it probably hasn't been touched by human hands since at least 1989.
<< <i>That is a beautiful coin. Truly, a terrific piece and I do not believe the issue on the rim is of any real consequence. >>
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<< <i>Nice look but if resubmitted so you think it would body bag due to the nicks? >>
As previously mentioned, I believe the rim defect is "as made" (see my post above). PCGS must have thought so too, as they graded the coin instead of giving it a "no grade." They were very harsh in the early days about not grading coins with problems.
As to the "nicks," I think what you are referring to are the tiny tabs of plastic that extend out over the rim on rattler holders. At first glance, this looks like a rim nick, but actually is part of the holder. I suppose these tiny tabs were the predecessor of the current prongs. >>
i bet if you resubmitted it for secure plus, it would not only slab, but upgrade as well. that's my bet. however, i would leave as is.