Jon -- There're Here. Prongie Thingie Holders for Dimes. (edited to add one of my Morgans)

fcloud · January 14, 2012 2:12AM

My latest group of dimes from PCGS haved the new prongie thingie holders.
I think there ruin the images.

Edited to add one of the morgans with the prongs.

pursuitofliberty · January 14, 2012 2:23AM

Well, I'll comment.

First, nice dimes

I'm not a big fan of any prongs, but ... IMO they are better than ATS

AUandAG · January 14, 2012 2:23AM

Those clear prongs are actually quite an improvement in my opinion.

I like them.

bob

DIMEMAN · January 14, 2012 2:25AM

They are crap looking, but there is NOTHING we can do!!!

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comma · January 14, 2012 2:29AM

Love the prongs, hate what they do to coin photography in slabs

SullivanNumismatics · January 14, 2012 2:30AM

I like them. It's always been an irritation to me to not be able to see a coin's edge. These will be especially nice for error coins (partial collar strikes, broadstrikes, etc.)

Sonorandesertrat · January 14, 2012 2:31AM

Well, at least they allow one to get a look at the edge of a coin. And they are better than the opaque ones used ATS----these obscure portions of the rims.

STONE · January 14, 2012 2:37AM

The old holders obscurred the entire rim when housed in the rubber gasket.
This new holder allows you to see approximately half the rim unobscured,
while also allowing you to see the rest of the rim through mild obscurity.

Hopefully our hosts eventually reduce the circumference of the prong so that
it does not cover as much surface area of the coins rim. That will be the best
improvement with the implementation of this new coin prong holder.

keyman64 · January 14, 2012 2:40AM

Yipppppeeeeee! Jon's excited!

I don't care for them. If coins have special design elements then I think it should be optional. Oh well. Like Jon said, nothin' we can do.

MFH · January 14, 2012 2:44AM

Jon was upset that the electric light bulb was invented
because it interupted his sleep. Dang ol' folk.

MFH · January 14, 2012 2:45AM

<< The old holders obscurred the entire rim when housed in the rubber gasket.
This new holder allows you to see approximately half the rim unobscured,
while also allowing you to see the rest of the rim through mild obscurity.

Hopefully our hosts eventually reduce the circumference of the prong so that
it does not cover as much surface area of the coins rim. That will be the best
improvement with the implementation of this new coin prong holder. >>

Well said, Winston !!

DorkGirl · January 14, 2012 2:57AM

I like them.....though the probability is very slim that I will ever own one.

golden · January 14, 2012 3:06AM

I had a coin reholdered at FUN and it was in a pronged holder. I do not like it.

fcloud · January 14, 2012 3:22AM

<< Well, I'll comment.

First, nice dimes

I'm not a big fan of any prongs, but ... IMO they are better than ATS >>

To that I absolutely agree. Much better than the other side.

MMNS grading has a patented holder where the entire rim is seen. I wonder if any of the other grading services will try to work with them and get the rights to use it. They are the only one I have seen so far that has a good solution.

iceman0xh · January 14, 2012 3:45AM

I just sent in 6 dimes for grading and I have to say I am glad I will get prongs... it is just like the regular holders with cutouts so you can actually see the rims now.

hamster7 · January 14, 2012 5:31AM

Off topic, but what does the big ARSave mean?

keyman64 · January 14, 2012 5:39AM

<< Off topic, but what does the big ARSave mean? >>

Another way of putting his copyright on the photo so that others will not use them etc. There have been issues in the past with others snagging his photos so they can sell their lesser examples of a variety on eBay etc. ARS are his initials but ARSave refers to his domain name on the beautiful World Wide Web: www.ARSave.com

Justacommeman · January 14, 2012 5:46AM

<< 

<< Well, I'll comment.

First, nice dimes

I'm not a big fan of any prongs, but ... IMO they are better than ATS >>

To that I absolutely agree. Much better than the other side.

MMNS grading has a patented holder where the entire rim is seen. I wonder if any of the other grading services will try to work with them and get the rights to use it. They are the only one I have seen so far that has a good solution. >>

I'm somewhat surprised that PCGS didn't buy that "technology" from them. Well look at the bright side. In 25 years these Prongie Thingie 1.0 slabs might just be collectable.

I hated the NGC prong holders at first. I eventually got used to them on the halves that I collect. On smaller coins they are still tough IMO.

MJ

ajman · January 14, 2012 6:09AM

Of the two prong designs I prefer our hosts version heads and tails above NGC's, simply because you can see the edge/rim of the coin so there is nothing hiding such as a rim nick. That being said I wish PCGS would offer this as an option for their customers that like it and still offer the original design for collectors that like that.

messydesk · January 14, 2012 6:11AM

<< [MMNS grading has a patented holder where the entire rim is seen. I wonder if any of the other grading services will try to work with them and get the rights to use it. They are the only one I have seen so far that has a good solution. >>

I'm somewhat surprised that PCGS didn't buy that "technology" from them. >>

Me, too. The patent (8,069,978) wasn't issued until December 2011, so before then there would be a chance that there'd be no patent on it to be licensed, which would make licensing negotiations less straightforward. Maybe their price tag was too high for any of the TPGs, but it would seem that as a grading service, they don't have much of anything else going for them, and they'd eventually become merely a supplier of these rings that could be used in someone else's holders or in proof sets. What I don't know is if they'd actually grip coins securely enough so that they wouldn't be a different type of rattler. All the samples have modern uncirculated coins in them, but circulated bust halves are a different story.

fcloud · January 14, 2012 7:03AM

<< 

<< [MMNS grading has a patented holder where the entire rim is seen. I wonder if any of the other grading services will try to work with them and get the rights to use it. They are the only one I have seen so far that has a good solution. >>

I'm somewhat surprised that PCGS didn't buy that "technology" from them. >>

Me, too. The patent (8,069,978) wasn't issued until December 2011, so before then there would be a chance that there'd be no patent on it to be licensed, which would make licensing negotiations less straightforward. Maybe their price tag was too high for any of the TPGs, but it would seem that as a grading service, they don't have much of anything else going for them, and they'd eventually become merely a supplier of these rings that could be used in someone else's holders or in proof sets. What I don't know is if they'd actually grip coins securely enough so that they wouldn't be a different type of rattler. All the samples have modern uncirculated coins in them, but circulated bust halves are a different story. >>

The samples I saw were all modern, too.

fcloud · January 14, 2012 9:17AM

I almost forgot. I received two Morgans back today, too. They also had the prongs.

Justacommeman · January 14, 2012 1:34PM

As one might expect the larger coins will look better then their smaller counterparts in the Prongie Thingie 1.0 holder. MJ

stealer · January 14, 2012 1:35PM

<< Those clear prongs are actually quite an improvement in my opinion.

I like them.

bob

>>

GoldClause · January 16, 2012 5:43AM

So, are all newly slabbed coins getting the prong holders now?

illini420 · January 16, 2012 7:25AM

<< So, are all newly slabbed coins getting the prong holders now? >>

Not yet. I just got back 3 Lincoln Cents that didn't have pronged holders... I wish they would have though

TWQG · January 16, 2012 7:31AM

I like the new holders, especially with large coins. I assumed my latest submission would have them but now I'm worried.

JCMhouston · January 16, 2012 7:48AM

Just crop it like so and although you can still see them it's not nearly so bad.

DIMEMAN · January 17, 2012 6:03AM

My last 2 dimes back a 1946-S FS504 San Serif S and the 1945-D/D FS501 came back in the pretty (old) older

BUT I'm sure the one I have in now a 1805 5 Berry will probably come back in the new pukie holder!

Jon -- There're Here. Prongie Thingie Holders for Dimes. (edited to add one of my Morgans)

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