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Jon -- There're Here. Prongie Thingie Holders for Dimes. (edited to add one of my Morgans)

fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
My latest group of dimes from PCGS haved the new prongie thingie holders.
I think there ruin the images.

Edited to add one of the morgans with the prongs.
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  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,295 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, I'll comment.

    First, nice dimes image


    I'm not a big fan of any prongs, but ... IMO they are better than ATS



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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those clear prongs are actually quite an improvement in my opinion.

    I like them.

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They are crap looking, but there is NOTHING we can do!!!image
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  • commacomma Posts: 1,529 ✭✭✭
    Love the prongs, hate what they do to coin photography in slabs

  • I like them. It's always been an irritation to me to not be able to see a coin's edge. These will be especially nice for error coins (partial collar strikes, broadstrikes, etc.)

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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, at least they allow one to get a look at the edge of a coin. And they are better than the opaque ones used ATS----these obscure portions of the rims.
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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    The old holders obscurred the entire rim when housed in the rubber gasket.
    This new holder allows you to see approximately half the rim unobscured,
    while also allowing you to see the rest of the rim through mild obscurity.

    Hopefully our hosts eventually reduce the circumference of the prong so that
    it does not cover as much surface area of the coins rim. That will be the best
    improvement with the implementation of this new coin prong holder.
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,533 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yipppppeeeeee! Jon's excited!

    I don't care for them. If coins have special design elements then I think it should be optional. Oh well. Like Jon said, nothin' we can do.
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  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭


    Jon was upset that the electric light bulb was invented
    because it interupted his sleep. Dang ol' folk.

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  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The old holders obscurred the entire rim when housed in the rubber gasket.
    This new holder allows you to see approximately half the rim unobscured,
    while also allowing you to see the rest of the rim through mild obscurity.

    Hopefully our hosts eventually reduce the circumference of the prong so that
    it does not cover as much surface area of the coins rim. That will be the best
    improvement with the implementation of this new coin prong holder. >>



    Well said, Winston !!
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  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    I like them.....though the probability is very slim that I will ever own one.image
    Becky
  • goldengolden Posts: 9,995 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I had a coin reholdered at FUN and it was in a pronged holder. I do not like it.
  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well, I'll comment.

    First, nice dimes image


    I'm not a big fan of any prongs, but ... IMO they are better than ATS >>



    To that I absolutely agree. Much better than the other side.

    MMNS grading has a patented holder where the entire rim is seen. I wonder if any of the other grading services will try to work with them and get the rights to use it. They are the only one I have seen so far that has a good solution.

    President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay

  • I just sent in 6 dimes for grading and I have to say I am glad I will get prongs... it is just like the regular holders with cutouts so you can actually see the rims now.
  • Off topic, but what does the big ARSave mean?
    Thanks,
    hamster7
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,533 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Off topic, but what does the big ARSave mean? >>

    Another way of putting his copyright on the photo so that others will not use them etc. There have been issues in the past with others snagging his photos so they can sell their lesser examples of a variety on eBay etc. ARS are his initials but ARSave refers to his domain name on the beautiful World Wide Web: www.ARSave.com
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Well, I'll comment.

    First, nice dimes image


    I'm not a big fan of any prongs, but ... IMO they are better than ATS >>



    To that I absolutely agree. Much better than the other side.

    MMNS grading has a patented holder where the entire rim is seen. I wonder if any of the other grading services will try to work with them and get the rights to use it. They are the only one I have seen so far that has a good solution. >>



    I'm somewhat surprised that PCGS didn't buy that "technology" from them. Well look at the bright side. In 25 years these Prongie Thingie 1.0 slabs might just be collectable.

    I hated the NGC prong holders at first. I eventually got used to them on the halves that I collect. On smaller coins they are still tough IMO.

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  • ajmanajman Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭
    Of the two prong designs I prefer our hosts version heads and tails above NGC's, simply because you can see the edge/rim of the coin so there is nothing hiding such as a rim nick. That being said I wish PCGS would offer this as an option for their customers that like it and still offer the original design for collectors that like that.
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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>[MMNS grading has a patented holder where the entire rim is seen. I wonder if any of the other grading services will try to work with them and get the rights to use it. They are the only one I have seen so far that has a good solution. >>



    I'm somewhat surprised that PCGS didn't buy that "technology" from them. >>


    Me, too. The patent (8,069,978) wasn't issued until December 2011, so before then there would be a chance that there'd be no patent on it to be licensed, which would make licensing negotiations less straightforward. Maybe their price tag was too high for any of the TPGs, but it would seem that as a grading service, they don't have much of anything else going for them, and they'd eventually become merely a supplier of these rings that could be used in someone else's holders or in proof sets. What I don't know is if they'd actually grip coins securely enough so that they wouldn't be a different type of rattler. All the samples have modern uncirculated coins in them, but circulated bust halves are a different story.
  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>[MMNS grading has a patented holder where the entire rim is seen. I wonder if any of the other grading services will try to work with them and get the rights to use it. They are the only one I have seen so far that has a good solution. >>



    I'm somewhat surprised that PCGS didn't buy that "technology" from them. >>


    Me, too. The patent (8,069,978) wasn't issued until December 2011, so before then there would be a chance that there'd be no patent on it to be licensed, which would make licensing negotiations less straightforward. Maybe their price tag was too high for any of the TPGs, but it would seem that as a grading service, they don't have much of anything else going for them, and they'd eventually become merely a supplier of these rings that could be used in someone else's holders or in proof sets. What I don't know is if they'd actually grip coins securely enough so that they wouldn't be a different type of rattler. All the samples have modern uncirculated coins in them, but circulated bust halves are a different story. >>



    The samples I saw were all modern, too.

    President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay

  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    I almost forgot. I received two Morgans back today, too. They also had the prongs.

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As one might expect the larger coins will look better then their smaller counterparts in the Prongie Thingie 1.0 holder. MJ
    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Those clear prongs are actually quite an improvement in my opinion.

    I like them.

    bobimage >>


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  • So, are all newly slabbed coins getting the prong holders now?
  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>So, are all newly slabbed coins getting the prong holders now? >>




    Not yet. I just got back 3 Lincoln Cents that didn't have pronged holders... I wish they would have though image
  • TWQGTWQG Posts: 3,145 ✭✭
    I like the new holders, especially with large coins. I assumed my latest submission would have them but now I'm worried.
  • JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
    Just crop it like so and although you can still see them it's not nearly so bad.

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My last 2 dimes back a 1946-S FS504 San Serif S and the 1945-D/D FS501 came back in the pretty (old) older image BUT I'm sure the one I have in now a 1805 5 Berry will probably come back in the new pukie holder!image

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