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Dice21Dice21 Posts: 448
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Check out e-bay item # 200665847177.......I'm not connected in any way .........just thought it was kinda cool!!......

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    elmeisterelmeister Posts: 117 ✭✭
    linkified: Whole bunch of 1999-W AGEs

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    ModernCoinModernCoin Posts: 394
    I saw that the other day and about wet myself image. Perhaps the dealer is a board member?

    Thankfully I manged to find two raw $5 examples and a mis-priced $10 example recently image. Thank God for good vision and uninformed sellers image...

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    2manycoins2fewfunds2manycoins2fewfunds Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭
    Stupid way to try to sell them.
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    Dice21Dice21 Posts: 448
    By The sound of the listing he is selling some off .........but it is a weird way to do so...........
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    erickso1erickso1 Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭
    That's board member Julian.

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    crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623 ✭


    << <i>Stupid way to try to sell them. >>




    Is that your opinion based on how many years you have being a very high level B&M Coin dealer with 40 years of experience who is universally respected and on the PCGS front page as a member of the board of experts. Because if you're not all of those things then I am here to tell you that you are not even close to qualified to make that assessment as the man who listed them. His methodology isn't the stupid thing here.
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    CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭
    Is that the same dealer that left something like 2 Million in coins on the front seat unattended and went shopping or something? Or maybe that was someone else.
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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Stupid way to try to sell them. >>




    Is that your opinion based on how many years you have being a very high level B&M Coin dealer with 40 years of experience who is universally respected and on the PCGS front page as a member of the board of experts. Because if you're not all of those things then I am here to tell you that you are not even close to qualified to make that assessment as the man who listed them. His methodology isn't the stupid thing here. >>



    well said, ruff, but well said

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    ericj96ericj96 Posts: 1,657
    HE DOES THAT ABOUT EVERY 2-3 YEARS... CONSISTENTLY
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    DD Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Stupid way to try to sell them. >>




    Is that your opinion based on how many years you have being a very high level B&M Coin dealer with 40 years of experience who is universally respected and on the PCGS front page as a member of the board of experts. Because if you're not all of those things then I am here to tell you that you are not even close to qualified to make that assessment as the man who listed them. His methodology isn't the stupid thing here. >>



    well said, ruff, but well said

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    out doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt >>




    He's also handled sales and coins that haven't been sold in decades publicly that would certainly bring the largest numbers ever recognized in auctions. Not for their type, but for any coin. One of the most pleasent people to deal with, informative, polite; and the first forum member I personally elected to seek out at a coin show.

    Aside from all of that, it's his, or anyone elses decision to list coins however they would like.

    -D
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    2manycoins2fewfunds2manycoins2fewfunds Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭
    It never helps market prices to know there is a large overhang of product for sale.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Amazing, and a very solid, respected dealer as well. For those interested, you can rest assured this is legitimate. Cheers, RickO
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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Geez Julian! That's quite the little hoard! image



    << <i>Stupid way to try to sell them. >>

    image Julian is anything but stupid. What an absurd comment! Please ... share with us your knowledge and skill that has led you to be one of the most successful numismatic dealers in the country whose longevity rivals that of the Old Testament.
    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
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    fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like he is trying to sell off all the MS68 graded coins.
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Geez Julian! That's quite the little hoard! image



    << <i>Stupid way to try to sell them. >>

    image Julian is anything but stupid. What an absurd comment! Please ... share with us your knowledge and skill that has led you to be one of the most successful numismatic dealers in the country whose longevity rivals that of the Old Testament. >>



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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 24,020 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I disagree with calling these "emergency issues". There was never any shortage of 1999 1/10th oz AGEs. There was high demand, but I don't recall ever reading about the Mint ever restricting or rationing sales to the Mint's distributors during 1999. Someone please correct me if they know otherwise.

    I do recall reading about proof dies that were mistakenly used for regular production, and that's how these were originally reported. I do recall Julian being one of the early pursuers of these coins, but that doesn't make them an "emergency issue". That's hype.

    These coins don't need hype. There are few enough of them and they are collectable enough in their own right, without the hype. I know I'll get lambasted for saying this, but if this was some "emergency", please provide the details other than speculation.

    Respectfully, my opinion.
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    I knew it would happen.
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    MarkInDavisMarkInDavis Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭✭
    It seems to me like a way to advertise the coins for potential sale off eBay. I translate the comment "Please note that I have added to & deleted from this lot since it was originally posted, as I continually buy and sell these and have updated the totals." to mean contact me if you want to buy 1 or 2 of these and of course it will be off eBay. I doubt he really expects to sell them as a single lot. Of course, I am just guessing and may be reading too much into it.
    image Respectfully, Mark
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    ModernCoinModernCoin Posts: 394
    Meh, since we're all talking about it and I'm still worked up about these right now after having cherried a several this past weekend, I'll make this offer:

    I'm willing and able to send $1250 via paypal for a pcgs 69 99W $10 age today. Yes that's a tad low, as a couple were sold in December on eBay for $1300ish, but it's a fair offer and I'm saving you the hassle of eBay and quite a bit in fees as well. These coins haven't budged in price for quite some time, and who knows if they'll ever take off, so if you're sitting on one let me know via PM please.
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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,171 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He knows what he's doing. Inexpensive way to market this lot. ( about 10 cents per month )
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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree - Julian knows what he's doing,
    and he's doing it for at least one specific
    reason (which I'm not going to state).

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
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    JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭
    To answer a few questions:

    I have the coins listed individually, as well.

    I have sold 3 large groups previously. The last group that I sold were all 69's and I have built up the 69's listed since then.

    As for it being an emergency issue, I have outline my reasoning in the description. Some, including my friend and colleague, Fred Weinberg, disagree, but I still believe that my explanation has merit.

    I remember Dave Bowers marketing rolls of 1931-s nickels decades ago. He listed the total that he had and sold out. It doesn't really hurt for the totals to be known. These are not million dollar coins yet.

    I am happy to discuss this further, either on this thread or by PM.
    PNG member, numismatic dealer since 1965. Operates a retail store, also has exhibited at over 1000 shows.
    I firmly believe in numismatics as the world's greatest hobby, but recognize that this is a luxury and without collectors, we can all spend/melt our collections/inventories.

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 34,410 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Amazing, and a very solid, respected dealer as well. For those interested, you can rest assured this is legitimate. Cheers, RickO >>

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