The Anniversary Sets were limited to 100,000. The vast majority were mailed within the First Strike deadline (estimated at 70,000). Could the non-first strike coins (estimate at 30,000) have a substancially lower population and actually be more rare than first strike?
<< <i>The Anniversary Sets were limited to 100,000. The vast majority were mailed within the First Strike deadline (estimated at 70,000). Could the non-first strike coins (estimate at 30,000) have a substancially lower population and actually be more rare than first strike? >>
I am not sure, but some submitters did not want to spend the extra $18 per coin charge for the First Strike designation. $18 X 25 ASE coins in the five set box =$450. That is alot of added expense for most Joe six packs.
<< <i>The Anniversary Sets were limited to 100,000. The vast majority were mailed within the First Strike deadline (estimated at 70,000). Could the non-first strike coins (estimate at 30,000) have a substancially lower population and actually be more rare than first strike? >>
Only when pigs learn to fly
"Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
<< <i>The Anniversary Sets were limited to 100,000. The vast majority were mailed within the First Strike deadline (estimated at 70,000). Could the non-first strike coins (estimate at 30,000) have a substancially lower population and actually be more rare than first strike? >>
Only when pigs learn to fly >>
Suggest you review prior offerings such as UHR or 20th Anniv. Sets, just to name a few, where the non FS pops are much lower, but selling at a substantial discount over the FS labeled coins.
"Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
<< <i>The Anniversary Sets were limited to 100,000. The vast majority were mailed within the First Strike deadline (estimated at 70,000). Could the non-first strike coins (estimate at 30,000) have a substancially lower population and actually be more rare than first strike? >>
I actually stated that pop may be lower way back when someone said they were just going to get theirs slabbed - no FS of any type. But, keep in mind, not all sets were slabbed, FS or otherwise.
<< <i>The Anniversary Sets were limited to 100,000. The vast majority were mailed within the First Strike deadline (estimated at 70,000). Could the non-first strike coins (estimate at 30,000) have a substancially lower population and actually be more rare than first strike? >>
Only when pigs learn to fly >>
Suggest you review prior offerings such as UHR or 20th Anniv. Sets, just to name a few, where the non FS pops are much lower, but selling at a substantial discount over the FS labeled coins. >>
Yes, but this time, unlike the others, the overwhelming majority of sets were shipped by the mint in the first 30 days, not over 2.5 months or over the course of an entire year. That renders the vast majority of sealed sets FS eligible, and this is common knowledge in the market. Also, as has been pointed out in another thread, the percent of non-FS coins grading 70 is significantly less than for FS coins. Both of these factors should keep the premium for FS coins to a minimum. Since it's true that an FS could always be turned into a non-FS, everyone is correct in believing that it is unreasonable to expect non-FS coins to trade at a big premium to their FS counterparts, nothwithstanding the smaller population of non-FS coins.
However, if you think about it, I think you'll agree that the fact that almost all sets eligible for a "set" label are also eligible for a "FS" label, combined with the relatively crappy grades that the non-FS coins have been receiving relative to FS, should minimize the FS premium for these sets. Isn't it true that the reason people value the FS designation is because only a small subset of an issue is typically eligible for it? If so, then in this case, with the announced 4.5 hour sell-out (I know orders were actually filled for the first 6.5 hours or so, taking into account all of the orders purged by the mint), and with reports on many forums indicating that a huge percentage of orders (I think it's probably closer to 95% than the 70% estimated above) shipped prior to the 12/7 (or is it 12/8?) FS cut-off, I really think this will be the exception to the rule that FS carries a premium in the market. Of course, time will tell.
Numbers of whole PCGS sets in 70 certainly getting slimmer. Still quite a few singles. 34 PCGS S 70s for sale, which is right in line where the numbers have been for the past few weeks.
Successful transactions with keepdachange, tizofthe, adriana, wondercoin
Description in the listing is pretty clear......Can't see how someone would think they are getting all sets pictured...stranger things have happened..........sure is nice to see..............would anyone care to estimate how many sealed boxes (sets) are sitting in closets or storage waiting for prices to rise???........it seems like only about 25K sets have been sent in for grading to ngc and pcgs??........and another 15-16K sets sold as raw.........full sets might be at a premium down the road as many are splitting to sell the key coins.......IMO
<< <i>Do you guys think it is worth to invest in couple 69 set. It seem to me only 70 set, price is going up in value. >>
The 70s have quite a premium compared to the 69s. They may be the better value, if you can live with the stigma that comes with 69s. Some people just have to have the 70s.
I agree withoverdate on the 69s having greater potential and they should also have less downside risk.
<< <i>Do you guys think it is worth to invest in couple 69 set.
How bad do these spot? >>
Good question. Long term(10+ years) that was a big concern for me and the main reason I choose to not keep my sealed box of 5 sets unopened. Now I have a slabbed PCGS 69 & 70 set that I can monitor closely.
Successful coin BST transactions with Gerard and segoja.
Successful card BST transactions with cbcnow, brogurt, gstarling, Bravesfan 007, and rajah 424.
UgggHHH...Well, yesterday I took a look at my buddys sealed box of 5 sets. Here's what happened. He was working and had his daughter order it. She then forwarded it to him.
Here's the problem. She placed a shipping label over the original, and added some colored priority mail tape around the edges, and ran clear tape across the "sides" of the top.
He then removed her label, which more or less took off some of the original label. The remains of the original label are for the most part intact although shreddey, and you can read the ship date. The original tape underneath that label which runs down the center is not broken.
But it nonetheless looks bad. I told him I thought he was screwed. He said Ya, but you can still tell it hasn't been opened. Thoughts?
<< <i>UgggHHH...Well, yesterday I took a look at my buddys sealed box of 5 sets. Here's what happened. He was working and had his daughter order it. She then forwarded it to him.
Here's the problem. She placed a shipping label over the original, and added some colored priority mail tape around the edges, and ran clear tape across the "sides" of the top.
He then removed her label, which more or less took off some of the original label. The remains of the original label are for the most part intact although shreddey, and you can read the ship date. The original tape underneath that label which runs down the center is not broken.
But it nonetheless looks bad. I told him I thought he was screwed. He said Ya, but you can still tell it hasn't been opened. Thoughts? >>
<< <i>He then removed her label, which more or less took off some of the original label. The remains of the original label are for the most part intact although shreddey, and you can read the ship date. Thoughts? >>
Since the tape is sealed and you can read the date, I think you're fine. I wouldn't worry about it, but this should serve as a reminder to anyone buying cases of five and having them shipped that they should ALWAYS give specific shipping instructions to the sender (even if they're friends or family). This has to be at least the 10th post I've read across a few forums where the sender simply relabeled and messed up or partially messed up the original box/seal.
<< <i>As someone said a few days ago...those boxes in the corner are looking better all the time... >>
Goldmart still has the Mercanti 69 sets for 675. That seems to be a heck of a deal compared to ebay prices. Also they have the 70 sets showing 1295, but not in stock. Wonder if they will have the new mercanti/flags for that price? Will be worth watching IMO.
<< <i>Goldmart still has the Mercanti 69 sets for 675. That seems to be a heck of a deal compared to ebay prices. Also they have the 70 sets showing 1295, but not in stock. Wonder if they will have the new mercanti/flags for that price? Will be worth watching IMO. >>
wow 675 for 69 is a good deal. Do you know whether shipping included or not?
<< <i>Goldmart still has the Mercanti 69 sets for 675. That seems to be a heck of a deal compared to ebay prices. Also they have the 70 sets showing 1295, but not in stock. Wonder if they will have the new mercanti/flags for that price? Will be worth watching IMO. >>
wow 675 for 69 is a good deal. Do you know whether shipping included or not?
>>
Not included and it is the check/money order price:
You can do just as good on eBay. I picked up a 69 Flag set for the $691.00 shipped plus I got eBay Buck on it and was able to use my CC through PayPal.
Before you buy a Goldmart set or sets, I'd reccomend contacting Mitch (Wondercoin) and get a price from him. For a small premium over the Goldmart's prices, he handpicked a very nice Mercanti set for me. I have seen some pretty scruffy 69s (and 70s) - who knows what you'll get from Goldmart.
<< <i>Do you guys think it is worth to invest in couple 69 set. It seem to me only 70 set, price is going up in value. >>
The 70s have quite a premium compared to the 69s. They may be the better value, if you can live with the stigma that comes with 69s. Some people just have to have the 70s.
I agree withoverdate on the 69s having greater potential and they should also have less downside risk. >>
Keep on dreaming. There has never been a time where your above scenario has unfolded. 69's will always be the under bosses to the big guns and if history repeats itself, the 70's should continue to do better than the 69's. I'm talking about PCGS graded and not NGC graded "modern junk."
"Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
<< <i>Before you buy a Goldmart set or sets, I'd reccomend contacting Mitch (Wondercoin) and get a price from him. For a small premium over the Goldmart's prices, he handpicked a very nice Mercanti set for me. I have seen some pretty scruffy 69s (and 70s) - who knows what you'll get from Goldmart. >>
I'm not promoting goldmart but they are PCGS graded 69s so I would think the quality would be consistent - with other PCGS 69s. I do not personally have any scruffy coins, that can be an issue with buying off ebay though (but not always of course). My personal experience is one set of 70 tombstones from goldmart that they probably bought in bulk and are a nice set plus were a great price (currently out of stock). That being said, I also got an excellent looking set of flags from Wondercoin and very pleased with my first BST transaction.
M I have made or purchased close to 100 of the PCGS graded ASE's from the 25th set. As many on this message board have observed the grading on the Mercantis and Tombstones has been inconsistent - that has been my experience as well.I have returned or sold about 15% of the coins I purchased as they were in my opinion easily a point over (and in two coins 2 pts) where they should be. Now if purchasing these coins for my collection I either ask the seller to hand pick a nice coin or make sure there is a return option. Maybe I am just unlucky but its worth a small premium to get nice coins for the grade and avoid the hassles and cost of returns or disappointment of keeping a low end example.
<< <i>M I have made or purchased close to 100 of the PCGS graded ASE's from the 25th set. As many on this message board have observed the grading on the Mercantis and Tombstones has been inconsistent - that has been my experience as well.I have returned or sold about 15% of the coins I purchased as they were in my opinion easily a point over (and in two coins 2 pts) where they should be. Now if purchasing these coins for my collection I either ask the seller to hand pick a nice coin or make sure there is a return option. Maybe I am just unlucky but its worth a small premium to get nice coins for the grade and avoid the hassles and cost of returns or disappointment of keeping a low end example. >>
You're not alone. I've had a similar experience and believe that the graders may have been "under the gun" to get the bulk submissions back to the Dealers ASAP. Not true with the Flag labels though. I suspect that the 70 to 69 ratio graded coins are much lower with the Flag labels.
"Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
5000 per box was a cheer!!.........like go team go...........maybe be reality in a month or so................as the graded sets go up in price the sealed boxes that are FS eligible will also increase in price
<< <i>M I have made or purchased close to 100 of the PCGS graded ASE's from the 25th set. As many on this message board have observed the grading on the Mercantis and Tombstones has been inconsistent - that has been my experience as well.I have returned or sold about 15% of the coins I purchased as they were in my opinion easily a point over (and in two coins 2 pts) where they should be. Now if purchasing these coins for my collection I either ask the seller to hand pick a nice coin or make sure there is a return option. Maybe I am just unlucky but its worth a small premium to get nice coins for the grade and avoid the hassles and cost of returns or disappointment of keeping a low end example. >>
That's unfortunate because with a 70 there should be no margin of error, either it is or it isn't, right? I can see how a 69 could vary though, depending on what mark or spot or ding downgraded it. I would guess some are marginally 68s, which might not be so acceptable depending on what you paid for it.
<< <i>M I have made or purchased close to 100 of the PCGS graded ASE's from the 25th set. As many on this message board have observed the grading on the Mercantis and Tombstones has been inconsistent - that has been my experience as well.I have returned or sold about 15% of the coins I purchased as they were in my opinion easily a point over (and in two coins 2 pts) where they should be. Now if purchasing these coins for my collection I either ask the seller to hand pick a nice coin or make sure there is a return option. Maybe I am just unlucky but its worth a small premium to get nice coins for the grade and avoid the hassles and cost of returns or disappointment of keeping a low end example. >>
You need to send those back to PCGS and have PCGS refund you the cost. PCGS has no loss when over grading, if everyone sends over graded coins back to PCGS for the guarantee, they might grade better.
<< <i>I dont get it why some one want to pay 5000 for sealed box, cause if you send in for grade it. It is not like you will have 4 or 5 set with 70. >>
<< <i>M I have made or purchased close to 100 of the PCGS graded ASE's from the 25th set. As many on this message board have observed the grading on the Mercantis and Tombstones has been inconsistent - that has been my experience as well.I have returned or sold about 15% of the coins I purchased as they were in my opinion easily a point over (and in two coins 2 pts) where they should be. Now if purchasing these coins for my collection I either ask the seller to hand pick a nice coin or make sure there is a return option. Maybe I am just unlucky but its worth a small premium to get nice coins for the grade and avoid the hassles and cost of returns or disappointment of keeping a low end example. >>
That's unfortunate because with a 70 there should be no margin of error, either it is or it isn't, right? I can see how a 69 could vary though, depending on what mark or spot or ding downgraded it. I would guess some are marginally 68s, which might not be so acceptable depending on what you paid for it. >>
Mistakes can certainly happen. No doubt they happen across the street much more often , but I have a Mercanti 70 reverse proof with a visible to the naked eye frost break on the reverse. I have purchased multiple mercanti 70 sets and have been quite pleased overall, but clearly there are exceptions to everything.
<< <i> Depends on who you send it to. >>
Ssshhhhh, you're not supposed to say that out loud
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Hoard the keys.
Also what's up with these - I see some recent big BST sellers are turning into buyers now? Is the wave finally turning?
<< <i>The Anniversary Sets were limited to 100,000. The vast majority were mailed within the First Strike deadline (estimated at 70,000). Could the non-first strike coins (estimate at 30,000) have a substancially lower population and actually be more rare than first strike? >>
I am not sure, but some submitters did not want to spend the extra $18 per coin charge for the First Strike designation. $18 X 25 ASE coins in the five set box =$450. That is alot of added expense for most Joe six packs.
<< <i>The Anniversary Sets were limited to 100,000. The vast majority were mailed within the First Strike deadline (estimated at 70,000). Could the non-first strike coins (estimate at 30,000) have a substancially lower population and actually be more rare than first strike? >>
Only when pigs learn to fly
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<< <i>The Anniversary Sets were limited to 100,000. The vast majority were mailed within the First Strike deadline (estimated at 70,000). Could the non-first strike coins (estimate at 30,000) have a substancially lower population and actually be more rare than first strike? >>
Only when pigs learn to fly >>
Suggest you review prior offerings such as UHR or 20th Anniv. Sets, just to name a few, where the non FS pops are much lower, but selling at a substantial discount over the FS labeled coins.
<< <i>The Anniversary Sets were limited to 100,000. The vast majority were mailed within the First Strike deadline (estimated at 70,000). Could the non-first strike coins (estimate at 30,000) have a substancially lower population and actually be more rare than first strike? >>
I actually stated that pop may be lower way back when someone said they were just going to get theirs slabbed - no FS of any type. But, keep in mind, not all sets were slabbed, FS or otherwise.
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<< <i>The Anniversary Sets were limited to 100,000. The vast majority were mailed within the First Strike deadline (estimated at 70,000). Could the non-first strike coins (estimate at 30,000) have a substancially lower population and actually be more rare than first strike? >>
Only when pigs learn to fly >>
Suggest you review prior offerings such as UHR or 20th Anniv. Sets, just to name a few, where the non FS pops are much lower, but selling at a substantial discount over the FS labeled coins. >>
Yes, but this time, unlike the others, the overwhelming majority of sets were shipped by the mint in the first 30 days, not over 2.5 months or over the course of an entire year. That renders the vast majority of sealed sets FS eligible, and this is common knowledge in the market. Also, as has been pointed out in another thread, the percent of non-FS coins grading 70 is significantly less than for FS coins. Both of these factors should keep the premium for FS coins to a minimum. Since it's true that an FS could always be turned into a non-FS, everyone is correct in believing that it is unreasonable to expect non-FS coins to trade at a big premium to their FS counterparts, nothwithstanding the smaller population of non-FS coins.
However, if you think about it, I think you'll agree that the fact that almost all sets eligible for a "set" label are also eligible for a "FS" label, combined with the relatively crappy grades that the non-FS coins have been receiving relative to FS, should minimize the FS premium for these sets. Isn't it true that the reason people value the FS designation is because only a small subset of an issue is typically eligible for it? If so, then in this case, with the announced 4.5 hour sell-out (I know orders were actually filled for the first 6.5 hours or so, taking into account all of the orders purged by the mint), and with reports on many forums indicating that a huge percentage of orders (I think it's probably closer to 95% than the 70% estimated above) shipped prior to the 12/7 (or is it 12/8?) FS cut-off, I really think this will be the exception to the rule that FS carries a premium in the market. Of course, time will tell.
<< <i>Excuse my ignorance. If you send in a set of FS 70's to reholder as non FS are you garaunteed the same grade? >>
Yes on reholder, no on regrade.
<< <i>NGC 70 set sold for 2200 today on e-bay.......maybe a mis-informed buyer or a sign of things to come?? >>
I can't find the item. Can you provide the item number?
<< <i>e-bay item # 180787022614 sold on Jan 7th >>
The scratch-resistant edgeview holder pushed it over the $2k mark!
Maybe the buyer thought they were getting all of the sets in the picture?
It says "This auction is for ONE (1) set." in bold w/large font.
It's a VERY well done listing.
Hope for things to come :-)
Even the ones dated after 12/7 are selling well.
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As someone said a few days ago...those boxes in the corner are looking better all the time...
Holding everything as I think that prices will keep on climbing.
<< <i>Do you guys think it is worth to invest in couple 69 set. It seem to me only 70 set, price is going up in value. >>
I think the 69 sets have more potential and less risk than 70 sets.
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<< <i>Do you guys think it is worth to invest in couple 69 set. It seem to me only 70 set, price is going up in value. >>
The 70s have quite a premium compared to the 69s. They may be the better value, if you can live with the stigma that comes with 69s. Some people just have to have the 70s.
I agree withoverdate on the 69s having greater potential and they should also have less downside risk.
How bad do these spot?
<< <i>Do you guys think it is worth to invest in couple 69 set.
How bad do these spot? >>
Good question. Long term(10+ years) that was a big concern for me and the main reason I choose to not keep my sealed box of 5 sets unopened. Now I have a slabbed PCGS 69 & 70 set that I can monitor closely.
Successful card BST transactions with cbcnow, brogurt, gstarling, Bravesfan 007, and rajah 424.
Here's the problem. She placed a shipping label over the original, and added some colored priority mail tape around the edges, and ran clear tape across the "sides" of the top.
He then removed her label, which more or less took off some of the original label. The remains of the original label are for the most part intact although shreddey, and you can read the ship date. The original tape underneath that label which runs down the center is not broken.
But it nonetheless looks bad. I told him I thought he was screwed. He said Ya, but you can still tell it hasn't been opened. Thoughts?
<< <i>UgggHHH...Well, yesterday I took a look at my buddys sealed box of 5 sets. Here's what happened. He was working and had his daughter order it. She then forwarded it to him.
Here's the problem. She placed a shipping label over the original, and added some colored priority mail tape around the edges, and ran clear tape across the "sides" of the top.
He then removed her label, which more or less took off some of the original label. The remains of the original label are for the most part intact although shreddey, and you can read the ship date. The original tape underneath that label which runs down the center is not broken.
But it nonetheless looks bad. I told him I thought he was screwed. He said Ya, but you can still tell it hasn't been opened. Thoughts? >>
Hope they take it but I have my doubts...
<< <i>He then removed her label, which more or less took off some of the original label. The remains of the original label are for the most part intact although shreddey, and you can read the ship date. Thoughts? >>
Since the tape is sealed and you can read the date, I think you're fine. I wouldn't worry about it, but this should serve as a reminder to anyone buying cases of five and having them shipped that they should ALWAYS give specific shipping instructions to the sender (even if they're friends or family). This has to be at least the 10th post I've read across a few forums where the sender simply relabeled and messed up or partially messed up the original box/seal.
<< <i>As someone said a few days ago...those boxes in the corner are looking better all the time... >>
They sure are
<< <i>Goldmart still has the Mercanti 69 sets for 675. That seems to be a heck of a deal compared to ebay prices. Also they have the 70 sets showing 1295, but not in stock. Wonder if they will have the new mercanti/flags for that price? Will be worth watching IMO. >>
wow 675 for 69 is a good deal. Do you know whether shipping included or not?
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<< <i>Goldmart still has the Mercanti 69 sets for 675. That seems to be a heck of a deal compared to ebay prices. Also they have the 70 sets showing 1295, but not in stock. Wonder if they will have the new mercanti/flags for that price? Will be worth watching IMO. >>
wow 675 for 69 is a good deal. Do you know whether shipping included or not?
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Not included and it is the check/money order price:
Transaction Amount Shipping, Handling and Insurance Charge*
$0.00 - $99.99 $6.95
$100.00 - $499.99 $9.95
$500.00 - $999.99 $14.95
$1,000.00 - $2,499.99 $19.95
$2,500.00 and above $24.95
* All credit card orders are subject to an additional charge of 2.75% of the transaction amount.
I'm not promoting them and not associated, just thought it seemed a decent buy/source for a signed set. goldmart.com is their website.
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<< <i>Do you guys think it is worth to invest in couple 69 set. It seem to me only 70 set, price is going up in value. >>
The 70s have quite a premium compared to the 69s. They may be the better value, if you can live with the stigma that comes with 69s. Some people just have to have the 70s.
I agree withoverdate on the 69s having greater potential and they should also have less downside risk. >>
Keep on dreaming. There has never been a time where your above scenario has unfolded. 69's will always be the under bosses to the big guns and if history repeats itself, the 70's should continue to do better than the 69's. I'm talking about PCGS graded and not NGC graded "modern junk."
<< <i>Before you buy a Goldmart set or sets, I'd reccomend contacting Mitch (Wondercoin) and get a price from him. For a small premium over the Goldmart's prices, he handpicked a very nice Mercanti set for me. I have seen some pretty scruffy 69s (and 70s) - who knows what you'll get from Goldmart. >>
I'm not promoting goldmart but they are PCGS graded 69s so I would think the quality would be consistent - with other PCGS 69s. I do not personally have any scruffy coins, that can be an issue with buying off ebay though (but not always of course). My personal experience is one set of 70 tombstones from goldmart that they probably bought in bulk and are a nice set plus were a great price (currently out of stock). That being said, I also got an excellent looking set of flags from Wondercoin and very pleased with my first BST transaction.
<< <i>M I have made or purchased close to 100 of the PCGS graded ASE's from the 25th set. As many on this message board have observed the grading on the Mercantis and Tombstones has been inconsistent - that has been my experience as well.I have returned or sold about 15% of the coins I purchased as they were in my opinion easily a point over (and in two coins 2 pts) where they should be. Now if purchasing these coins for my collection I either ask the seller to hand pick a nice coin or make sure there is a return option. Maybe I am just unlucky but its worth a small premium to get nice coins for the grade and avoid the hassles and cost of returns or disappointment of keeping a low end example. >>
You're not alone. I've had a similar experience and believe that the graders may have been "under the gun" to get the bulk submissions back to the Dealers ASAP. Not true with the Flag labels though. I suspect that the 70 to 69 ratio graded coins are much lower with the Flag labels.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-AMERICAN-EAGLE-25TH-ANNIVERSARY-5-SETS-HAND-MINT-SEALED-UNOPENED-BOX-/270887757508?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3f122b26c4
sorry, didn't see the post above. GO TEAM!
<< <i>M I have made or purchased close to 100 of the PCGS graded ASE's from the 25th set. As many on this message board have observed the grading on the Mercantis and Tombstones has been inconsistent - that has been my experience as well.I have returned or sold about 15% of the coins I purchased as they were in my opinion easily a point over (and in two coins 2 pts) where they should be. Now if purchasing these coins for my collection I either ask the seller to hand pick a nice coin or make sure there is a return option. Maybe I am just unlucky but its worth a small premium to get nice coins for the grade and avoid the hassles and cost of returns or disappointment of keeping a low end example. >>
That's unfortunate because with a 70 there should be no margin of error, either it is or it isn't, right? I can see how a 69 could vary though, depending on what mark or spot or ding downgraded it. I would guess some are marginally 68s, which might not be so acceptable depending on what you paid for it.
<< <i>M I have made or purchased close to 100 of the PCGS graded ASE's from the 25th set. As many on this message board have observed the grading on the Mercantis and Tombstones has been inconsistent - that has been my experience as well.I have returned or sold about 15% of the coins I purchased as they were in my opinion easily a point over (and in two coins 2 pts) where they should be. Now if purchasing these coins for my collection I either ask the seller to hand pick a nice coin or make sure there is a return option. Maybe I am just unlucky but its worth a small premium to get nice coins for the grade and avoid the hassles and cost of returns or disappointment of keeping a low end example. >>
You need to send those back to PCGS and have PCGS refund you the cost. PCGS has no loss when over grading, if everyone sends over graded coins back to PCGS for the guarantee, they might grade better.
<< <i>I dont get it why some one want to pay 5000 for sealed box, cause if you send in for grade it. It is not like you will have 4 or 5 set with 70. >>
Depends on who you send it to.
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<< <i>M I have made or purchased close to 100 of the PCGS graded ASE's from the 25th set. As many on this message board have observed the grading on the Mercantis and Tombstones has been inconsistent - that has been my experience as well.I have returned or sold about 15% of the coins I purchased as they were in my opinion easily a point over (and in two coins 2 pts) where they should be. Now if purchasing these coins for my collection I either ask the seller to hand pick a nice coin or make sure there is a return option. Maybe I am just unlucky but its worth a small premium to get nice coins for the grade and avoid the hassles and cost of returns or disappointment of keeping a low end example. >>
That's unfortunate because with a 70 there should be no margin of error, either it is or it isn't, right? I can see how a 69 could vary though, depending on what mark or spot or ding downgraded it. I would guess some are marginally 68s, which might not be so acceptable depending on what you paid for it. >>
Mistakes can certainly happen. No doubt they happen across the street much more often
<< <i> Depends on who you send it to. >>
Ssshhhhh, you're not supposed to say that out loud
4200 become market clearing price in a couple of days