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    mingotmingot Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭
    Silver ike?
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    WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    Well that is interesting...any chance of tampering?
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    halfcentmanhalfcentman Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Silver ike? >>



    Yes!

    As far as tampering, the seals on the side look to be intact. Hopefully, someone can shed some more light on this.

    I am bringing it into my wife's school Monday to look at it under heavier magnification.
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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How did that happen?

    Is the Ike Dollar an MS 40% silver clad; or is it an MS San Francisco mint marked 100% clad dollar.

    If the former, it is an interesting conversation piece an SF 40% silver clad dollar in a Denver Mint Set]. If it is the latter you have a major discovery coin.

    Very cool IMHO.
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    halfcentmanhalfcentman Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭


    << <i>How did that happen?

    Is the Ike Dollar an MS 40% silver clad; or is it an MS San Francisco mint marked 100% clad dollar.

    If the former, it is an interesting conversation piece an SF 40% silver clad dollar in a Denver Mint Set]. If it is the latter you have a major discovery coin.

    Very cool IMHO. >>



    It's 40% silver. You can tell by the edge, and it passes the "tissue" test (tissue turns milky white).

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    UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Run the fingerprint and see if it comes back to a former Mint employee. image
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    crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623 ✭
    I think that is pretty cool
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    cladkingcladking Posts: 30,355 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>How did that happen?

    Is the Ike Dollar an MS 40% silver clad; or is it an MS San Francisco mint marked 100% clad dollar.

    If the former, it is an interesting conversation piece an SF 40% silver clad dollar in a Denver Mint Set]. If it is the latter you have a major discovery coin.

    Very cool IMHO. >>



    It's silver.

    Even though it doesn't seem to be tampered with I have to suspect it was.

    I'll await results.
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    mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    thats pretty darn cool !!
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,291 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a new one on me.

    I wonder if the San Francisco three-coin 40% silver sets were packaged in Denver because Denver had the Mint Set packaging equipment?
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    TomohawkTomohawk Posts: 667 ✭✭
    Man, talk about odd ways of memories resurfacing: I recall (as a very young kid...about 8 or 9) looking at my Dad's collection with my mom. I distinctly remember seeing that same proof set with the top row 1776-1976 and the bottom row 1975. I remember her puzzled look and then she just shook it off and that's about all I can remember. But I have to confess: This is the first time I've thought about that memory since then!! Thanks for the jog...I guess my mother IS actually a bit of a collector (never believed she was despite her claims!!).
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    gcoingcoin Posts: 238 ✭✭
    i have to say that is very interesting. What is exactly is the tissue test? Can you explain what you mean?
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    The Ike has a fingerprint on it. I'd guess it got put by accident into the stock of D mint ikes from someone's pocket or some stock intended for something else. --Jerry
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    << <i>i have to say that is very interesting. What is exactly is the tissue test? Can you explain what you mean? >>




    try this. take any clad proof and a silver proof and lay them down side by side. now take a piece of thin tissue and lay it over the coins. you will see a big difference in the "color" that shows through the tissue. clad will look more yellow and silver will look more white. i use this trick at work to see a "chrome miss" on nickel chrome plated parts. the nickel shows a yellow/brown color through the tissue compared to chrome which looks white. same as silver.


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    i think the mint cello packages would be easy to tamper with. you would only need one of these.
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,291 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>i think the mint cello packages would be easy to tamper with. you would only need one of these.
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    Not really. The Mint set plastic is bonded by being pressed between two opposing rollers, one ribbed horizontally and the other vertically. That gives the pressure welds (terminology?) the criss-cross pattern.

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    Very interesting! I think I remember someone posting a 1970 mint set that had two S-mint Lincolns instead of one being a Philly. This set would be much cooler if it's untampered with. What would something like this be worth if legit?

    Is that a rim clip @ 3:00 on the Ike? Looks like a Blakesley effect @ 9:00. Can you post a pic of the reverse?
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Now that would be a cool find....let us know what you find out...Cheers, RickO
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    << <i>Very interesting! I think I remember someone posting a 1970 mint set that had two S-mint Lincolns instead of one being a Philly. This set would be much cooler if it's untampered with. What would something like this be worth if legit?

    Is that a rim clip @ 3:00 on the Ike? Looks like a Blakesley effect @ 9:00. Can you post a pic of the reverse? >>



    I think the value would be no more than the normal price doubled as it is only a packing error that has normal coin in a non-normal configuration. Beside you will never 100% convince some people that it isn't "made"
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    telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,966 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting error set if it's legit and for OP's sake I hope that it is...it would make for an awesome discovery... but the problem is that it's going to be difficult to positively authenticate it. That crosshatch seal pattern isn't all that hard to duplicate. Also, it seems to me that since we're now 37 years down the line, someone should have unearthed one of these long before now. JMHO

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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,524 ✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>How did that happen?

    Is the Ike Dollar an MS 40% silver clad; or is it an MS San Francisco mint marked 100% clad dollar.

    If the former, it is an interesting conversation piece an SF 40% silver clad dollar in a Denver Mint Set]. If it is the latter you have a major discovery coin.

    Very cool IMHO. >>



    It's 40% silver. You can tell by the edge, and it passes the "tissue" test (tissue turns milky white). >>

    Damn! Thats nice but it would have been a helluva score if it was copper-nickel!
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    cladkingcladking Posts: 30,355 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I had a 1969-p quarter in a red (ie denver) mint cello. I once saw a 1990 mint set that had a wrong quarter, something like an 89-p instead of a 90-p. >>



    The '69-P in the Denver packet is common. The wrong year is very cool. image

    Another common one is a missing '80-D SBA with an '80-D quarter in its place.

    I always try to look at the token in the '84 to '98 sets hoping to see an overstruck cent in one.
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,524 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Another common one is a missing '80-D SBA with an '80-D quarter in its place. >>

    Too Funny! image
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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    weren't the coins struck at their respective Mints and then shipped to Philadelphia where they were packaged?? that would explain the OP's error and the two "S" Mint Cents.
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    cladkingcladking Posts: 30,355 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Another common one is a missing '80-D SBA with an '80-D quarter in its place. >>

    Too Funny! image >>




    I've always found this one rather humorous as well.

    Even the mint can't tell the quarter from the SBA.
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    cladkingcladking Posts: 30,355 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>weren't the coins struck at their respective Mints and then shipped to Philadelphia where they were packaged?? that would explain the OP's error and the two "S" Mint Cents. >>



    This is something that hasn't been firmly nailed down; where the sets were packaged.

    It's my belief that at one time the coins were shipped to Philly for packaging but I don't
    know this as fact and don't know if there were ever any changes.

    Philly has a mint set packaging machine since 1980 but I don't know that Denver doesn't
    have one. Philly also has a mint set cutting machine.

    The mint has always been extremely stingy with information about mint sets and have
    issued several statements that tend to be highly misleading. I don't think they wanted
    collectors to know the finest coins were in mint sets. Perhaps the high sales volumes of
    these is because they were the highest quality but I've always doubted it.
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,291 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>weren't the coins struck at their respective Mints and then shipped to Philadelphia where they were packaged?? that would explain the OP's error and the two "S" Mint Cents. >>



    No. During the 1981 ANA Summer Seminar, our tour of the Denver Mint included a trip down into the basement where we got to watch Mint Set packets being made with the six D-mint coins plus the S-mint dollar.

    I don't know if the packets were then shipped to the Philadelphia Mint to be put in envelopes with the P-mint packets, or if the Philly packets were sent to denver, or if both were shipped to San Francisco.
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