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In Regards to my 1909 Lincoln Cent... WIN SOME!!

braddickbraddick Posts: 25,146 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Ok, so I had about $125. into the coin (eBay auction) and figure $75. for PCGS EXPRESS grading (including postage both ways).
I still think it's a pretty coin, but I do defer to PCGS with their judgement regarding the toning.

I'd say it's a lesson learned, but not really.
I'll still be back scouring eBay for the potential little gem.

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    savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,372 ✭✭✭✭
    i happen to know that you secretly like those Ginny holders image

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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,146 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>i happen to know that you secretly like those Ginny holders image >>


    Not as much as MS65 ones. . .
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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why Express grading? I'm just curious.
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    AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,375 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why Express grading? I'm just curious. >>



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    jedmjedm Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey that Lincoln looks really cool! I like the holder too.
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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Why Express grading? I'm just curious. >>



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    WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like it ... Even though PCGS didn't

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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,146 ✭✭✭✭✭
    EXPRESS Grading is for the impatient!
    Color me so.
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    RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like the look of the coin anyway.

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

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    MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,614 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Crack it out and try again.
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    TheBigBTheBigB Posts: 942 ✭
    Is questionable color a shock?
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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    I've seen Lincolns that looked like that and still graded.


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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Huh. How strange.

    blue is the correct color for copper.
































    oh wait, red, RED, thats the right color.
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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Blue copper is the kiss of death. Lately, anyway. I'm sure we can post many blue-toned cents in problem-free holders. But of late PCGS seems suspicious of MS70.
    Lance.
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    stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, you got your "blue" what else do you want? Good ol' braddick likes him some blue. image

    Edit, or maybe it was RED I was thinking of. Hahaha

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    relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,286 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why Express grading? I'm just curious. >>



    PCGS: "Hey, we'll give you express grading for life if you just send us a certain ASE back" image
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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,146 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Why Express grading? I'm just curious. >>



    PCGS: "Hey, we'll give you express grading for life if you just send us a certain ASE back" image >>



    They got it back.
    It's now in a GENUINE holder.
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    WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 7,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It does not mean they got it RIGHT. Remember, code 91 means QUESTIONABLE color, not recolored, etc.

    WS
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    thebeavthebeav Posts: 4,108 ✭✭✭✭✭
    On the bright side.......The coin is REAL !

    JK......It is pretty though. Good luck in future scouring......
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It can be 'adjusted'....image Cheers, RickO
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    MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭
    Pat, Is the color a bit on the green side (as the photos suggest), or is it our favorite shade of blue? Because if its the former, I can understand your disbelief as greenish blue tends to be natural -- and we all know the story on the other hue. Just curious....Mike
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
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    IrishMikeyIrishMikey Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭
    Allowing for the fact that we are using an image, and PCGS saw the actual coin, I think they got it wrong.
    That has the appearance of an original bronze coin to me. If you want to sell it, you might give it a shot
    on e-Bay or the BST and see what happens. To avoid any charges of misrepresentation, leave it in the
    Genuine holder. If the best offer isn't enough, you can always keep it and move on.
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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    this one is straight from circulation. newer, and a zincoln, but...it IS blue, and NT all the way.

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    renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Too bad as it would certainly go well with this:

    image

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    CoppercolorCoppercolor Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭
    Couple possibilities:

    1) PCGS seems more comfortable when toned lincs/indian have a slightly different obverse vs. reverse look - on blue coins especially. matching sides alone could explain the baggage
    2) If the coin is held at an angle, does a light brown/tan pattern of toning show up, sometimes a grid. There's a way, I believe to see surface etching that MS70 tends to leave behind that could explain the baggage
    3) magenta mixed in with the blue is the kiss of death at PCGS. That's not the issue here
    4) Yellow/gold/brown flecks mixed in with the blue and your golden, no pun intended
    I'd like my copper well done please!
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 33,092 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nice coin anyway image
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    MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i> There's a way, I believe to see surface etching that MS70 tends to leave behind that could explain the baggage

    I am not aware of one. Please describe it.
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
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    CoppercolorCoppercolor Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭
    I need to be in front of some of my coins to give the best description.

    Essentially though, a dull tan/brown haze can be seen at an agle. I've noticed at least several questionable coins have a grid pattern, and the only reason I can imagine for this is that the grid is highlighting slight inconsistencies in the planchet metal mix, which should be intermittent along parrallel striations. Maybe the MS70 reacts more aggressively with tin or zinc portions near the surface than the copper.

    I didn't have a very long conversation about it, but Andy Skrabalak mentioned that he thought MS70 could damage copper surfaces to me a few months ago so I started looking. I need to go back and compare notes with him.
    Bronzeback8
    I'd like my copper well done please!
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    uofa1285uofa1285 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭
    Too bad...I thought that had a great chance, as evidenced by the numerically holdered blue Lincoln in a previous post in this thread...what will you do, if you don't mind sharing...crack and resubmit later? Live with it and keep it? Resell it right away in the Genied holder?

    Thanks, Doug
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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,146 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Too bad...I thought that had a great chance, as evidenced by the numerically holdered blue Lincoln in a previous post in this thread...what will you do, if you don't mind sharing...crack and resubmit later? Live with it and keep it? Resell it right away in the Genied holder?

    Thanks, Doug >>



    I won't crack it out and resubmit. I've never done that and won't start now. I'll just keep it the way it is.

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