Options
Looking for help with a technical grade...
Thoughts on a technical grade?


Also, if you owned this coin would you send it in for grading? Thanks!
Also, if you owned this coin would you send it in for grading? Thanks!
0
Comments
<< <i>Torn between EF/AU. >>
Thanks very much for your feedback... much appreciated! Do you have much experience with early southern gold?
I know that often times that weak strikes were the norm in this period for this denomination. From what I understand, the obverse can typically show a full grade higher than the reverse on this particular issue.
I'd love to have additional opinions... please chime in, even if you don't have any experience with early southern gold!
<< <i>AU 50 >>
Thanks for the feedback... if I may ask, do you have any experience with southern gold?
This date is noted for have depressions on the cheek from some substance, perhaps dirt adhering to the obverse die. This appears to more than that.
I’d say the net grade on this piece is somewhere in the Choice VF to EF level. I might have a different take if I saw the coin in person.
Here is an AU-55 that is in my collection.
Anyway, I'd say technical XF45 based on the pics because of the surface condition, market probably AU53 because of the "southern gold" effect
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
Or EF45 at the very least.
I've had one or two in EF40 (old ANACS small holder, as I recall), and they didn't have near that amount of detail.
Didn't have the magical mintmark over the date, either.
Wow.
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
It appears by consensus that on a technical basis it would be fair to call this coin at least a XF-40?
If there has been a mild cleaning (consequently preventing grading), how does one estimate a fair market value?
So, chime in... how much "might" she be worth?
GrandAm
<< <i>The depression on the cheek is a planchet flaw (I've seen it replicated exactly on other examples of this issue). >>
If you really mean "exactly" as in the same mark in the same spot, then it's not a planchet flaw. It's either a defect in the die or a repeating depression. If it's a repeating depression, then you are dealing with a series of counterfeits.
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
<< <i>
<< <i>The depression on the cheek is a planchet flaw (I've seen it replicated exactly on other examples of this issue). >>
If you really mean "exactly" as in the same mark in the same spot, then it's not a planchet flaw. It's either a defect in the die or a repeating depression. If it's a repeating depression, then you are dealing with a series of counterfeits. >>
Here is the example that I'm referring to:
Link
What are your thoughts?
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>The depression on the cheek is a planchet flaw (I've seen it replicated exactly on other examples of this issue). >>
If you really mean "exactly" as in the same mark in the same spot, then it's not a planchet flaw. It's either a defect in the die or a repeating depression. If it's a repeating depression, then you are dealing with a series of counterfeits. >>
Here is the example that I'm referring to:
Link
What are your thoughts? >>
Seems that the HA does in fact have a similar depression as your coin.
I know it's unrelated but I remember you mentioning that this coin was stolen? Did you get it back?
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>The depression on the cheek is a planchet flaw (I've seen it replicated exactly on other examples of this issue). >>
If you really mean "exactly" as in the same mark in the same spot, then it's not a planchet flaw. It's either a defect in the die or a repeating depression. If it's a repeating depression, then you are dealing with a series of counterfeits. >>
Here is the example that I'm referring to:
Link
What are your thoughts? >>
Seems that the HA does in fact have a similar depression as your coin.
I know it's unrelated but I remember you mentioning that this coin was stolen? Did you get it back? >>
Nope, never got it back... The major reason for this thread is to help me further determine my write-off cost/loss. The emotional loss is gone, but I'll never see this coin again.
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>The depression on the cheek is a planchet flaw (I've seen it replicated exactly on other examples of this issue). >>
If you really mean "exactly" as in the same mark in the same spot, then it's not a planchet flaw. It's either a defect in the die or a repeating depression. If it's a repeating depression, then you are dealing with a series of counterfeits. >>
Here is the example that I'm referring to:
Link
What are your thoughts? >>
Since these are two different coins with what appears to be the same depression in the portrait AND they both have been authenticated by PCGS, I am betting heavily on die damage of some sort.
Generally, repeating depressions are small and difficult to spot and appear like the exact same "bag mark" on multiple coins (which, of course, is impossible).
Oh ... sorry to hear about the theft.
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces