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1916-D Merc in Wheat Cent Roll ?!?!?!?!?!?!
TorinoCobra71
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Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>He has several other cent roll auctions with earlier dimes on the ends. All rolls have the same paper and same style of end crimping. He's obviously salting his rolls and I doubt if anyone will fall for this scam. >>
He's sold quite a few ...
Whatever you are, be a good one. ---- Abraham Lincoln
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
<< <i>People fall for these ridiculous "unsearched roll" auctions with great regularity.
and for those that don't even look at them anywhere else
we have to come here and see them ><
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No. What it looks like to me is fraudulent misrepresentation and intentional deception for the sole purpose of screwing buyers.
<< <i>Does the auction look a little "funny"?
No. What it looks like to me is fraudulent misrepresentation and intentional deception for the sole purpose of screwing buyers. >>
I'll second that statement!
Folks do not seem to understand that coin rolling machines are available for purchase on the open market which enables these hucksters to create ANY type of roll their greedy little minds can dream up.
The name is LEE!
<< <i>He's obviously salting his rolls and I doubt if anyone will fall for this scam. >>
his feedback says the opposite
<< <i>Amazing how many gullible individuals are out there...well... maybe that is unfair... I would qualify that by saying 'untrained, uninformed'..... and of course, there are always the starry eyed deal seekers. Well... anymore, it does not pay to be in such a group... learn, learn, learn. Cheers, RickO >>
The word "gullible" isn't even in the dictionary... Really.
That seller should have been horsewhipped a long time ago.
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
Morgan dollars from a "Nevada" "bank" (which mysteriously existed
only on eBay, not in any banking or financial records, history books,
etc.). After he'd sold a few and gained the attention of doubters and
mythbusters, he tried to juice up the "authenticity" of the wrappers
with a modern inkjet image of an eagle (if memory serves) --- in full
color, with a modern sans-serif font completely out of character for
the era he was trying to evoke.
Oy vey.
I want to post some unsearched wheat rolls . I'm going to jam an eisenhower dollar in one end and a diamond ring in the other.
<< <i>I want to post some unsearched wheat rolls . I'm going to jam an eisenhower dollar in one end and a diamond ring in the other. >>
Be sure to leave the middle empty. They can't demand a refund since it is "unsearched"
I bought a roll and will open it when it comes and then complain to ebay to see what happens. I'm in the mood for a fight and can afford the
$23.00. It should be entertaining.
<< <i>I bought a roll and will open it when it comes and then complain to ebay to see what happens. I'm in the mood for a fight and can afford the
$23.00. It should be entertaining. >>
Are you going to neg him if it isn't a 1916-D Merc?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
No, I wont neg him because he says on the listing that it is a roll of pennies with dimes on both ends. He says there might be some surprises
inside. What will be a surprise if s if there is anything good in there. I am just in a playful mood and want to bust his butt a little bit and probably
will not neg him unless the rest of the roll is all memorials. Then he would deserve it.
<< <i>The word "gullible" isn't even in the dictionary... Really. >>
Nice try, BBE, but you didn't get me there.
I tripped up my sister with that one once, though, when we were teenagers. "Oh. Really?"
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
<< <i>I bought a roll and will open it when it comes and then complain to ebay to see what happens. I'm in the mood for a fight and can afford the
$23.00. It should be entertaining. >>
I'm not looking for a fight,but I have alot of surprises to sell you for $23!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260898128247
No offense, but you'd have to be a complete idiot to think this is anything other than a dealer-manufactured novelty item. I have to give him credit though... it must have been a real pain to crimp that roll tight enough without having the gold pieces fall out.
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<< <i>The word "gullible" isn't even in the dictionary... Really. >>
Nice try, BBE, but you didn't get me there.
I tripped up my sister with that one once, though, when we were teenagers. "Oh. Really?"
We got someone with that not once, but twice.
60 years into this hobby and I'm still working on my Lincoln set!
<< <i>I bought a roll and will open it when it comes and then complain to ebay to see what happens. I'm in the mood for a fight and can afford the
$23.00. It should be entertaining. >>
Well, the seller never claims it's q a 1916-D only that it could be...there is nothing technically wrong with that in the listing title or description, it's a fantasy idea and nothing more. Wouldn't it be cool if the seller screwed up and put a genuine 16-D in there....only then would you have the last laugh.
The seller must have been a farmer because they sure know how to plant a seed.
"Keep your malarkey filter in good operating order" -Walter Breen
The silly thing is that there are countless people that buy these things on ebay. It's been done for years.
They use their own crimping machine or the cheapo crimping hand tool and modern rolls or even re-crimped used rolls.
The statements like "unsearched by me" or "I took a hoard to a bank to be rolled" are tough to prove, how many people wouldn't search a hoard or what bank rolls stuff as a favor or even for a fee?
They also salt up their feedback by either throwing in a few decent coins or even throwing in a $3 fake S-VDB or 55 DDO because the buyer that finds it will say "WOW found a 55 DDO" not thinking it's fake because it wasn't sold alone.
So many of these have an old dime or reverse with a VDB showing or whatever.... You know they're purposely done.
<< <i>I want to post some unsearched wheat rolls . I'm going to jam an eisenhower dollar in one end and a diamond ring in the other. >>
LOL!
They need to invent a 1916-D Mercury dime with the "D" on the obverse, so both date and mintmark are conveniently visible.
Other end-of-the-roll packaging options:
- A Brilliant Uncirculated Franklin half dollar and an off-center Matron Head large cent.
- A Maria Theresa silver thaler and the deed to a small farmstead in Oklahoma.
- A Spanish doubloon and the fender of a 1929 Mercedes SSK.
These kind of auctions will cease to be popular with bidders as soon as convenience stores stop selling lottery tickets due to lack of buyers.
OK, common sense question, if you have exposed dimes on the ends of the penny roll, how do you know there are 48 WHEAT cents between them?
"Keep your malarkey filter in good operating order" -Walter Breen
How can you possibly say it's an unsearched wheat cent roll when the end coins are both Indian cents?
<< <i>I bought a roll and will open it when it comes and then complain to ebay to see what happens. I'm in the mood for a fight and can afford the
$23.00. It should be entertaining. >>
And what exactly would you complain about? While these rolls may not be what some of the "elitists" that post to this board may purchase, did it ever occur to you that there may actually be people that enjoy getting and searching these rolls and that the relatively small amount paid for these rolls is insignificant?
Joe.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
Edit to add: at the very least, he could've used quarter eagles, for something of similar size.
Yeah. That would be more convincing. Totally believable.
<< <i>I want to post some unsearched wheat rolls . I'm going to jam an eisenhower dollar in one end and a diamond ring in the other. >>
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
Unbelievable
(Auction #320810943996)
And he's a "Top Rated Seller", so you can take that to the bank!
He just said fourteen of them WERE FOUND.
(Since the beginning of time.)
Edit: Oh. Hang on. He was a little more specific than that, wasn't he.
<< <i>1909-S VDB Lincoln Cent Found!! November, 2010 !!
1916-d Mercury Dime found April, 2010!!
1916-d Mercury Dime found June, 2010!!
1916-d Mercury Dime found July, 2010!!
1916-d Mercury Dime found August, 2010!!
1916-d Mercury Dime found October, 2010!!
1916-d Mercury Dime found December, 2010!! >>
He said WHEN they were found, but not WHERE they were found.
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
<< <i>And what exactly would you complain about? While these rolls may not be what some of the "elitists" that post to this board may purchase, did it ever occur to you that there may actually be people that enjoy getting and searching these rolls and that the relatively small amount paid for these rolls is insignificant?
Joe. >>
Please define "elitists". Your post makes such individuals sound like people to be avoided, so what I should be on the lookout for so I can steer clear of them?
<< <i>Here's the most ridiculous fake shotgun roll I've seen so far:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260898128247
No offense, but you'd have to be a complete idiot to think this is anything other than a dealer-manufactured novelty item. I have to give him credit though... it must have been a real pain to crimp that roll tight enough without having the gold pieces fall out.
this happens to me all the time roll searching!!!
<< <i>I guess my biggest problem believing this, is how did a circulated coin get mixed in with a "mint" roll? >>
No, these are circulated rolls much like the ones you can get from the bank that are also paper wrapped.
The seller just claims that these are an old "hoard". Actually just machine wrapped with old looking paper.
Ron
bob
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<< <i>I guess my biggest problem believing this, is how did a circulated coin get mixed in with a "mint" roll? >>
No, these are circulated rolls much like the ones you can get from the bank that are also paper wrapped.
The seller just claims that these are an old "hoard". Actually just machine wrapped with old looking paper. >>
Those N.F. String & Son wrappers aren't "old" looking by any stretch of the imagination. Any time you see a roll with red stripes on it like that, it is indicative of modern A.B.A. color-coded paper. In fact, you can buy them directly from the manufacturer for $7.85 + shipping per case of 1,000.
Also why does he call them wheat penny rolls when he has dimes in them? Call them dime rolls!!
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