Jim first off those are the best real pictures I have seen in my 3 and half years in this industry. Just breathtaking. There is some serious money in there. I would be so worried about moisture, fire, flood, etc.
With that in mind, what do all of you do to store your stuff. I mean you can only have so many safe's etc. What other options are there besides having safe's??
Something custom built to protect all of that. I know it's insured, it better be, but ever thought of a custom built closet. Fire, Flood, proof etc. You need your own vault!!!
Jime thanks for sharing and I would also love to see some up close pics of those boxes and packs. Simply Outstanding!!!!
I know what you mean about worrying about damage. Some time in the future maybe I will show you what happened to my uncut sheet collection that was pretty much destroyed because I screwed up and stored it in the wrong place. I mean like 58, 64, 72 regular sheets and 62 proof sheets all ruined. I have been thinking about submitting some of my older boxes for auction just because of those type of worries. Maybe just concentrate on invidual packs and my actual cards instead.
Jim
Looking for 66 and 69 OPC baseball 60's OPC packs 72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs 72 and earlier BB cello
I will try to take some pictures sometime soon. It is somewhat of a pain having to get them out and find some where I can lay them out. Plus, I always get so upset with myself when i see the damage. The 59, 64, and 72 were ones I bought from Lew Lipset in one of his auction in 8/85.
Jim
Looking for 66 and 69 OPC baseball 60's OPC packs 72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs 72 and earlier BB cello
<< <i>I know what you mean about worrying about damage. Some time in the future maybe I will show you what happened to my uncut sheet collection that was pretty much destroyed because I screwed up and stored it in the wrong place. I mean like 58, 64, 72 regular sheets and 62 proof sheets all ruined. I have been thinking about submitting some of my older boxes for auction just because of those type of worries. Maybe just concentrate on invidual packs and my actual cards instead.
Jim >>
You know, I love my raw card collection, but I know that my encapsulated cards are somewhat protect against moisture, or even possibly water. My raw card collection has no chance against significant water. Any high dollar card probably belongs in a holder, just for securing the value of the card.
Not a complete box of 82 cellos with Ripken on top but a few of my boxes. I had too many 81 cellos so didn't show one here. Wish I had more 80s or 82s instead.
Jim
Looking for 66 and 69 OPC baseball 60's OPC packs 72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs 72 and earlier BB cello
Wow, that is some serious 70s eye candy right there! Awesome!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
LOL, you slipped in the cello box pictures while I was posting to the first set of pictures. Even though I've got all but the 1976 rack pack box as far as the baseball boxes are concerned, I still love looking at other people's boxes. I think I need for serious counseling.
<< <i>I need to find a 76 cello box somewhere. I can't believe I don't have a loose 85 rack box but I do have some cases I could take one out of. >>
I'm actually working of a 1976 cello box as well. I've got 10 packs so far, only another 14 to go. Not too bad. I wouldn't crack one of your 85 cases as you can always look at your cello box to get a fix.
Thanks again for the pictures!!!
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep. But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting: Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
Most impressive rack collection. You may be happy to hear that I know of another rarity which is at Memory Lane Auction Company right now being considered for an upcoming auction. It is one of the few, if only, remaining 1962 Topps Baseball Triple Cello Rack (Not Christmas) - the rack was owned by an Alaskan homesteader who had it displayed in an Anchorage card shop for 20+ years - he actually sold a major portion of his sport card collection to Mr. Mint years back - his name is Jim Soucek. I lived in Alaska for 26 years and was involved with the card hobby for a lot of those years. I ended up with the rack when I heard the store (Shoei-Do's) had closed several years back and I inquired about any vintage unopened items that may be for sale. Jim had a number of old sport packs, cards and sets remaining in his collection and I was able to buy several items from him through another collector. I asked Steve Hart about the '62 rack, sent him photos, told him the history and he said Topps NEVER made a 1962 Rack Pack. Well, I beg to differ especially since I had one in hand, PLUS, I have a copy of a Topps Ad where they were advertising them. (See pics attached) . . . well, now Memory Lane is trying to find out if the rack is a salesman sample or one used in Topps advertising since no one can say for sure if the '62 racks were distributed to the public. Fun stuff, eh? Anyway, see what you think and we'll talk about a sale or trade if interested. The cello packs in the rack are presentation, display quality packs - nothing fishy about them at all. We just can't find any old time collectors who will confirm the rack's legitimacy. Steve Glaze ~ staxofpax@aol.com
(The front of the rack is slightly faded from being on display under fluorescent/sun lights for so many years. I can't seem to download the back, but email me and I will send you pics)
Un-----Real-----Collection. Those pictures make me want to cry, they are so beautiful! Thanks so much for sharing, hands down one of, if not the best unopened collection I have ever seen!!!
OMG that was amazing to look it. Card porn is right!!
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Awesome collection. Non card collector seeing my (now seemingly pitiful) collection recently asked me if I knew/thought there was a lot of old baseball cards out there. HELLO!
Thanks for sharing!
Joe
2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
Since many people have asked me about this, I will make a response.
My opinion on 1962 through 1965 Topps baseball rack packs.
I have been doing this for 25 years. Mark Murphy, Alan Rosen, and many quiet long time collectors I know have never, ever, ever bought/sold/made a find/witnessed/or had a dream with any Topps rack pack made from these years. I have seen 100's (yes 100's) of 1960, 1961 and 1966 on up Topps baseball rack packs. When I say 100's I can say this from the finds Alan Rosen made of 1960 and 1961 rack CASES many years ago. These are only the racks I HAVE SEEN. This doesnt account for the 100's that Murphy and many other collectors have made finds of from 1966 on up.
Why is it then nobody has ever, never made available or bought/sold a "LEGIT" 1962 through 1965 Topps baseball rack pack. I doubt that it is just a bad luck that nobody ever had one from these 4 years. My opinion is that most likely, they were never issued by Topps.
NOW WITH THAT BEING SAID, I have seen all the promo sheets that Topps put out from 1962, 1963 and 1964 showing a full correct rack pack. And I have seen 1 rack pack from 1962 Topps (not in my hands, just over e-mail). So is it possible Topps never released rack packs to the public, but possibly made a few for a couple of distributors? Of course thats possible (anything from Topps could be possible as Topps has never given out answers to some of these things). I would say this is the most likely scenario, as again, nobody has ever come up with a legit 1962 through 1965 Topps baseball rack pack in the course of nearly 50 years through all the dealer channels we know of.
This brings up another fact that will remind everyone of the biggest unopened scam out there. About 5-6 years ago someone came up with 100's (if not 1000's) of 1970 through 1975 Topps baseball grocery cellos. When they first hit the market all the same dealers I mentioned above (and many others) agreed that we had never, ever seen this product put out by Topps. Many old-time collectors also said they never saw these sold in retail outlets in the 1970's. Well, as it turned out, all of these grocery cellos turned out to be homemade fake packs. So........it just looks too much the same with 1962 through 1965 rack packs (nobody ever remembers these being sold) and 1970 through 1975 Topps grocery cellos.
AGAIN, I am not saying a 1962 through 1965 rack pack does not exist and is not real. However, until there is more proof (or more packs can surface) my best opinion is that Topps let a few out to select distibutors, or they are not real.
A couple of unopened articles you all might enjoy:
1970s cello football production
1962 Topps pre-season sales
Some very interesting and informative info in those articles..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I saw a 69 series 1 tray which consisted of 6 packs go for (I believe, if memory serves) about 5K with juice at auction a few years back.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I have posted this great REAL rack before but felt it was worth showing again. From Alan Rosen's find in or about 1995. Gentleman from Baltimore had father who owned 5 and dime store. Found I believe, 2 or 3 cases of Topps Baseball and football racks, as well as cello packs. Purchased directly from Rosen in 1995.
a '69 Topps Baseball Wax Tray. Purchased from former pack collector Larry Solomon (man did he have a collection!!)
another pack collector well known to many has 2 of the '69 wax trays
Thanks for sharing Manny. Those are beautiful packs especially the 1960 Yaz rack as Matt pointed out.
And yes, GAI may have slabbed some bad packs, but as I've seen the majority of them are good especially the ones like Manny's which have the older flips before the problems occurred.
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep. But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting: Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
Lots of collectors got some great packs from Jersey Five's collection in that Mile High auction several years back.
Awesome 69 tray and 60 rack with Yaz R on top, WOW!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
This 1969 Topps Baseball rackpack is on ebay now...
The cards may be 1969, but that rack was made in 2009, LOL..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>Lots of collectors got some great packs from Jersey Five's collection in that Mile High auction several years back. Awesome 69 tray and 60 rack with Yaz R on top, WOW! >>
And Larry sold just before the prices started to fall.
STAY HEALTHY!
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
< Lots of collectors got some great packs from Jersey Five's collection in that Mile High auction several years back. Awesome 69 tray and 60 rack with Yaz R on top, WOW! >>
And Larry sold just before the prices started to fall.
Doug, have you seen the prices in the Mile High auction ending tonight? Looks like prices are headed back up again!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
< Come on Tim, don't you see that double seam. Looks nice and shiny to me. >>
Mike - Are you talking around the edges of the perimeter of the rack?
Mark
Mark,
Racks from 1973 and earlier have a "double wide seam" between each section or sleeve of the rack.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< Lots of collectors got some great packs from Jersey Five's collection in that Mile High auction several years back.
Awesome 69 tray and 60 rack with Yaz R on top, WOW! >>
Funny you talking about him (Larry) and he just made an offer on one of my auctions his ears must be ringing!
That is a surprise as I recall that he was getting out of the hobby for good and haven't heard from him in a long while...he had predicted that market prices would crash on these packs so maybe since they haven't, he's getting back into the game...the hobby can pull you back in like that..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Comments
With that in mind, what do all of you do to store your stuff. I mean you can only have so many safe's etc. What other options are there besides having safe's??
Something custom built to protect all of that. I know it's insured, it better be, but ever thought of a custom built closet. Fire, Flood, proof etc. You need your own vault!!!
Jime thanks for sharing and I would also love to see some up close pics of those boxes and packs. Simply Outstanding!!!!
"Live everyday, don't throw it away"
Absolutely amazing collection.
Joe
Jim
60's OPC packs
72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs
72 and earlier BB cello
Current obsession, all things Topps 1969 - 1972
Jim
60's OPC packs
72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs
72 and earlier BB cello
<< <i>I know what you mean about worrying about damage. Some time in the future maybe I will show you what happened to my uncut sheet collection that was pretty much destroyed because I screwed up and stored it in the wrong place. I mean like 58, 64, 72 regular sheets and 62 proof sheets all ruined. I have been thinking about submitting some of my older boxes for auction just because of those type of worries. Maybe just concentrate on invidual packs and my actual cards instead.
Jim >>
You know, I love my raw card collection, but I know that my encapsulated cards are somewhat protect against moisture, or even possibly water. My raw card collection has no chance against significant water. Any high dollar card probably belongs in a holder, just for securing the value of the card.
Brock on top pack.
Reggie on top
Jim
60's OPC packs
72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs
72 and earlier BB cello
now the partial box
A couple of nice ones on top
Not a complete box of 82 cellos with Ripken on top but a few of my boxes. I had too many 81 cellos so didn't show one here. Wish I had more 80s or 82s instead.
Jim
60's OPC packs
72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs
72 and earlier BB cello
Looking forward to the cello boxes.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
Jim
60's OPC packs
72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs
72 and earlier BB cello
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>I need to find a 76 cello box somewhere. I can't believe I don't have a loose 85 rack box but I do have some cases I could take one out of. >>
I'm actually working of a 1976 cello box as well. I've got 10 packs so far, only another 14 to go. Not too bad. I wouldn't crack one of your 85 cases as you can always look at your cello box to get a fix.
Thanks again for the pictures!!!
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
Steve Glaze ~ staxofpax@aol.com
(The front of the rack is slightly faded from being on display under fluorescent/sun lights for so many years. I can't seem to download the back, but email me and I will send you pics)
Steve ~
staxofpax@aol.com
Working on the following: 1970 Baseball PSA, 1970-1976 Raw, World Series Subsets PSA, 1969 Expansion Teams PSA, Fleer World Series Sets, Texas Rangers Topps Run 1972-1989
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Jim
60's OPC packs
72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs
72 and earlier BB cello
Dibs on everything.
Only an idiot would have a message board signature.
Thanks for sharing!
Joe
the post about the '62 rack deserves it's own thread......
My opinion on 1962 through 1965 Topps baseball rack packs.
I have been doing this for 25 years. Mark Murphy, Alan Rosen, and many quiet long time collectors I know have never, ever, ever bought/sold/made a find/witnessed/or had a dream with any Topps rack pack made from these years. I have seen 100's (yes 100's) of 1960, 1961 and 1966 on up Topps baseball rack packs. When I say 100's I can say this from the finds Alan Rosen made of 1960 and 1961 rack CASES many years ago. These are only the racks I HAVE SEEN. This doesnt account for the 100's that Murphy and many other collectors have made finds of from 1966 on up.
Why is it then nobody has ever, never made available or bought/sold a "LEGIT" 1962 through 1965 Topps baseball rack pack. I doubt that it is just a bad luck that nobody ever had one from these 4 years. My opinion is that most likely, they were never issued by Topps.
NOW WITH THAT BEING SAID, I have seen all the promo sheets that Topps put out from 1962, 1963 and 1964 showing a full correct rack pack. And I have seen 1 rack pack from 1962 Topps (not in my hands, just over e-mail). So is it possible Topps never released rack packs to the public, but possibly made a few for a couple of distributors? Of course thats possible (anything from Topps could be possible as Topps has never given out answers to some of these things). I would say this is the most likely scenario, as again, nobody has ever come up with a legit 1962 through 1965 Topps baseball rack pack in the course of nearly 50 years through all the dealer channels we know of.
This brings up another fact that will remind everyone of the biggest unopened scam out there. About 5-6 years ago someone came up with 100's (if not 1000's) of 1970 through 1975 Topps baseball grocery cellos. When they first hit the market all the same dealers I mentioned above (and many others) agreed that we had never, ever seen this product put out by Topps. Many old-time collectors also said they never saw these sold in retail outlets in the 1970's. Well, as it turned out, all of these grocery cellos turned out to be homemade fake packs. So........it just looks too much the same with 1962 through 1965 rack packs (nobody ever remembers these being sold) and 1970 through 1975 Topps grocery cellos.
AGAIN, I am not saying a 1962 through 1965 rack pack does not exist and is not real. However, until there is more proof (or more packs can surface) my best opinion is that Topps let a few out to select distibutors, or they are not real.
Thanks! Steve
1970s cello football production
1962 Topps pre-season sales
1970s cello football production
1962 Topps pre-season sales
Some very interesting and informative info in those articles..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
aconte
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
a '69 Topps Baseball Wax Tray. Purchased from former pack collector Larry Solomon (man did he have a collection!!)
another pack collector well known to many has 2 of the '69 wax trays
yes both GAI, but both very real
aconte
And yes, GAI may have slabbed some bad packs, but as I've seen the majority of them are good especially the ones like Manny's which have the older flips before the problems occurred.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
Awesome 69 tray and 60 rack with Yaz R on top, WOW!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
The cards may be 1969, but that rack was made in 2009, LOL..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
<< <i>Come on Tim, don't you see that double seam. Looks nice and shiny to me.
Mike - Are you talking around the edges of the perimeter of the rack?
Mark
T206 Set - 300/524
<< <i>Lots of collectors got some great packs from Jersey Five's collection in that Mile High auction several years back.
Awesome 69 tray and 60 rack with Yaz R on top, WOW! >>
And Larry sold just before the prices started to fall.
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
Awesome 69 tray and 60 rack with Yaz R on top, WOW! >>
And Larry sold just before the prices started to fall.
Doug, have you seen the prices in the Mile High auction ending tonight? Looks like prices are headed back up again!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Mike - Are you talking around the edges of the perimeter of the rack?
Mark
Mark,
Racks from 1973 and earlier have a "double wide seam" between each section or sleeve of the rack.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>Lots of collectors got some great packs from Jersey Five's collection in that Mile High auction several years back.
Awesome 69 tray and 60 rack with Yaz R on top, WOW! >>
Funny you talking about him (Larry) and he just made an offer on one of my auctions
his ears must be ringing!
<< Lots of collectors got some great packs from Jersey Five's collection in that Mile High auction several years back.
Awesome 69 tray and 60 rack with Yaz R on top, WOW! >>
Funny you talking about him (Larry) and he just made an offer on one of my auctions
his ears must be ringing!
That is a surprise as I recall that he was getting out of the hobby for good and haven't heard from him in a long while...he had predicted that market prices would crash on these packs so maybe since they haven't, he's getting back into the game...the hobby can pull you back in like that..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
John