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Hello. I have been reading the boards here for awhile and I thought I would like to join in with your card discussions. I have already posted a couple of messages on the unopened stars on top thread, and I thank CPAMike for showing me how to use Photobucket, but I thought i would start a thread introducing myself and showing a few of tthe things I collect. My first collecting of cards was a little in 1967 and I remeber clearly at the end of the season my mother telling me that a local 5 and ten store was clearing out all of their baseball packs and batman packs for like a penny a pack. She asked me what I wanted and of course i said i want batman packs. DOH. I started buying some cards after that and I almost collected a complete 1971 set from packs. After 1975 I stoppedcollecting to go to college but while there I met a friend who bought cases of cards and made sets. This got me back interested and when I graduated in 1980 I started full force into collecting again. Early on in 1980 I fell in love with collecting unopened material and while I was also working on sets I really tried to build my collecton of unopened boxes and packs. I met another person in the area who also collected cards and liked unopened material so we started working together to find items. He was also a dealer named Billy caldwell who used the name packman (after all that was the time of pacman). I helped him at 2 national conventions in new jersey in 84 and Arlington in 86 and was able to pick up a lot of items. But by the time the early 90's rolled around i was getting pretty tired of the ever increasing number of card companies and the use of chase cards. Since I always liked to collect a case, a box, and a pack of each product, too many companies was too much hassle. So, I have prettymuch stopped collecting anything since 1990 except for a few odd current boxes here and there. So while I do have alot of older cards and sets the unopened material is close to my heart. I thought i woud make this thread to show some of the unopened stuff I have. While i mainly concentrated on wax I will start off showing some of the older rack pack i have. I will try to get some pictures of my unopened boxes a little later. I hope you unopened collectors enjoy the pictures and i am always interested in seeing others.

I forgot to mention I am a big Cardinals fan and will try to post some pics of my older cardnial cards later especially my Musials.

Jim
Looking for 66 and 69 OPC baseball
60's OPC packs
72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs
72 and earlier BB cello
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    leadoff4leadoff4 Posts: 2,392
    Can't wait for pics!
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    MacrosBMacrosB Posts: 524 ✭✭✭
    OK, time to start with some of my older rack packs:

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    As you can see I am stil missing the 1972. I will post a few of my 75 racks next. I hope you like.

    Jim
    Looking for 66 and 69 OPC baseball
    60's OPC packs
    72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs
    72 and earlier BB cello
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    MacrosBMacrosB Posts: 524 ✭✭✭
    OK, now for some 75 racks.
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    Jim
    Looking for 66 and 69 OPC baseball
    60's OPC packs
    72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs
    72 and earlier BB cello
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    MacrosBMacrosB Posts: 524 ✭✭✭
    Finally some football racks:

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    I hope you enjoy these. I will work on some other pictures in the next couple of days.

    Jim
    Looking for 66 and 69 OPC baseball
    60's OPC packs
    72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs
    72 and earlier BB cello
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    Very nice! More, more, more!
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    mcolney1mcolney1 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭
    That is jaw dropping. Thanks for sharing.

    I noticed a $7.50 price tag on one of the racks. Is that something you picked up at a card show?

    Tony
    Collecting Topps, Philadelphia and Kellogg's from 1964-1989
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    MacrosBMacrosB Posts: 524 ✭✭✭
    That would have been the price. Unless I talked him down some. image
    Looking for 66 and 69 OPC baseball
    60's OPC packs
    72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs
    72 and earlier BB cello
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    theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
    WOW--Truly a great post.
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    mknezmknez Posts: 1,991 ✭✭✭
    nice stuff!

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    cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,561 ✭✭✭
    Very nice job with the scans Jim.

    I love the 1966 and 1967 rack packs. Very difficult items to find as any unopened rack pack collector will tell you.

    Looking forward to seeing some more of your collection. image
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
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    grote15grote15 Posts: 29,535 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Terrific stuff! Thanks for sharing!


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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    heritageheritage Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭
    Good god great post..
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    MacrosBMacrosB Posts: 524 ✭✭✭
    I was trying to go through my records of purchaces to find out what I paid for these but I cannot find anything listed for them except for the 77 football so I probably got most of these before 83.
    Looking for 66 and 69 OPC baseball
    60's OPC packs
    72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs
    72 and earlier BB cello
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    jmoran19jmoran19 Posts: 1,605 ✭✭✭
    outstanding!! First 67 rack I seen (besides the one in M.M.'s box). Thanks for sharing and can't wait to see more.

    Current obsession, all things Topps 1969 - 1972

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    ThoseBackPagesThoseBackPages Posts: 4,871 ✭✭
    Thank you for taking the time to share your collection with us. It really is awesome to see!
    Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs
    WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
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    divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,528 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great looking pack collection...image

    There are some in there that I have not seen before.

    Thanks for showing them...Donato
    Hobbyist & Collector (not an investor).
    Donato's Complete US Type Set ---- Donato's Dansco 7070 Modified Type Set ---- Donato's Basic U.S. Coin Design Set

    Successful transactions: Shrub68 (Jim), MWallace (Mike)
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    MacrosBMacrosB Posts: 524 ✭✭✭
    I am glad you all enjoyed the pictures. I love to show what I have and discuss card collecting of all kind. The bad thing is my kids don't care anything about cards and have no interest in my collection. Since I don't go to shows anymore i don't know local collectors anymore so I don't get the opportunity to share th passion anymore. Thats why I like finding this board.

    Jim
    Looking for 66 and 69 OPC baseball
    60's OPC packs
    72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs
    72 and earlier BB cello
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    Good lord. That's like card porn.
    Do You Collect image Baseball 1937,1965-94,2008-09?
    Or Regional Canadian Baseball Issues?
    Come be a contributor to the OPC Baseball Wiki. It's free and easy!
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    mojorobmojorob Posts: 392 ✭✭
    "Since I don't go to shows anymore i don't know local collectors anymore so I don't get the opportunity to share th passion anymore. Thats why I like finding this board."

    Believe me, we like that you found this board also Jim ........... some really exceptional examples!!

    Thanks for posting some Great Looking Eye Candy.
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    itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    that stuff is dope.
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    A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore.
    Yogi Berra

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    jimradjimrad Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭
    I believe I just image myself looking at those scans.
    Positive transactions with: Bkritz,Bosox1976,Brick,captainthreeputt,cpettimd,craigger,cwazzy,DES1984,Dboneesq,daddymc,Downtown1974,EAsports,EagleEyeKid,fattymacs,gameusedhoop,godblessUSA,goose3,KatsCards,mike22y2k,
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    AricAric Posts: 757 ✭✭
    Wow, that is just awesome. Welcome to the boards. I would very much like to hear you experiences with prices of unopened material through the late 70's and 80's as the hobby matured. Was the availability there of say a case from a few years prior if you wished to purchase one. Was new material available at wholesale or would you have to pay retail even if you wanted a case. Retail price was so cheap back then I can't imagine picking it up for less. People always talk about how the collecting boom didn't start until the late 80's but obviously there were folks flipping and stashing away unopened material way back then.
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    twileytwiley Posts: 1,923
    Nice set of racks!
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    grote15grote15 Posts: 29,535 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wonder if Fritsch was selling unopened product back then or just buying it? What dealers, if any, were dealing in unopened back in the early '80s?


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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    stevekstevek Posts: 27,769 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Love the 60's packs, and the 70's packs ain't bad either. image

    Interesting with the 1966 rack pack - I wouldn't have guessed that a ruboff would have been included in a rack pack...I would have figured the ruboffs were only in the waxpacks.
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    aconteaconte Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭
    SWEET Stuff!

    I never have seen a 59 football rack pack before. All I can say is thanks for sharing.

    aconte
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    theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
    PM sent about the Cardinals.
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    jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭✭
    WOW!! I just went through about five different sets of emotions while scrolling down that page... WELCOME to the boards!! image
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    Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,536 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We may need a group hug after seeing that... image

    Dynamite stuff!
    Mike
    Bosox1976
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    BPorter26BPorter26 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Welcome to the boards and fantastic racks!!
    "EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY IT SAYS IT RIGHT THERE ON THE WALL" - JACKIE MOON
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    DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,220 ✭✭
    Welcome to the boards ... those are some AWESOME unopened that you just showed us. Most of us are here because our kids and significant others think we are SICK for going CRAZY over little men on cardboard. THEY JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!!
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
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    MBMiller25MBMiller25 Posts: 6,057 ✭✭
    Wow, very impressive. Thanks for sharing.
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    MacrosBMacrosB Posts: 524 ✭✭✭
    Up at least through 85 or 86 you could pick up cases for wholesale pretty easily and things were pretty cheap. I was buying vending cases from a local dealer for the stright cost from Topps. In 86 I bought an 85 FB wax case for 42 dollars. (Football was always almost being given away compared to baseball). In 83 I purchase an unopened 74 FB wax box for 36 dollars and at the same time from the same person a 76 OPC was box was 175. At the 84 National Convention I bought a box of 72 FB wax for 60 but at the same show I bought a 75 BB wax box for 320 from. At that time if you went to a large show you would find lots a dealers with the odd and end pack or box on their table. To show the state of buying older unopened close to 80, I bought three boxes of 1960 topps 1st series wax for 6 dollars a pack. Back before they started producing cards, Pacific Trading Cards sold alot. In fact that is who I bought the 75 box mentoned earlier. I also bought 80 FB wax cases for 40 dollars and 81 FB wax cases for 45 dollars. Since Montana wasn't really big yet people couldn't give FB cases away at the time. Most of my box purchase were usually from ads in SCD and alot of my individual pack purchases were at shows. I also bought quite a few things from Carso and Karen Ritchey in 83 including 71 FB high number wax boxes for 60 and 72 FB wax boxes for 50 when they were tyring to sell off alot of stuff to make room for a new project. I could go but I would say it was around 86 when everything really exploded in collecting and in started being a little more expensive to find as much good unopened or as easy to win them in SCD auctions. My big regret was not buying 86 Fleer basketball since I didn't really care about basketball cards except for a couple odds and ends I have.

    As a side note to this thread. to show you how times have changed. As I mentioned earlier I went to my first National Convention I think in 84. Geldman's had a hotel room and I had a chance to go up and go thrugh these stacks of mint star cards from the middle 60's through the middle 70's which seemed a great price even then. I was able to buy 5 or 10 of a card easily. I still have those cards in plastic today and I will try to scan some later. Also, at the end of one of the days all the dealers at the show gathered in a room saw a couple of quick presentations about sites for the next years National and then did a quick vote to decide where it would be. I am sure it is much different now where they have these locations planned out years in advance.

    Well anyway thats a little background of buying unopened back then. I hae lots of other pack prices listed from people but I would think most of thm are gone from the hobby by now. I am glad you enjoyed the packs
    Looking for 66 and 69 OPC baseball
    60's OPC packs
    72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs
    72 and earlier BB cello
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    moonlightgrahammoonlightgraham Posts: 330 ✭✭✭
    Is this what heaven is like? image

    Great collection. Thanks for sharing.
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    jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭✭
    I bet you and Steve at http://www.bbcexchange.com/ would have some great conversations.
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    leadoff4leadoff4 Posts: 2,392
    The stories(to me) are as entertaining, if not moreso than the pics of the racks. Great thread!
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    RookieWaxRookieWax Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭
    It would be great to hear about what sealed cases you still have. Such as how many unopened cases of 1981 Topps FB? Seeing pics of those would be great as well. Thanks for sharing. I lost all track of time reading through this thread this morning. I think it had some sort of hypnotic effect on me.
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    MacrosBMacrosB Posts: 524 ✭✭✭
    Ok, does anyone esle rember this find and ad from 87?
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    I saved the ad to remember prices from then. I did purchase a box of the 54 Bowman FB 5 cent packs. After all, they were the rare Koufax-Killebrew series image. I also bought one of each indidual pack.

    Jim
    Looking for 66 and 69 OPC baseball
    60's OPC packs
    72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs
    72 and earlier BB cello
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    cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,561 ✭✭✭
    Great foresight Jim. I have some old 80's ads too. Interesting to see the cheap prices from back in the day.

    Do you have any 70's unopened cello or rack boxes or just the individual packs and wax boxes? I'd love to see pictures of any that you have. Thanks for sharing.
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
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    ldfergldferg Posts: 6,739 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Wow, that is just awesome. Welcome to the boards. I would very much like to hear you experiences with prices of unopened material through the late 70's and 80's as the hobby matured. Was the availability there of say a case from a few years prior if you wished to purchase one. Was new material available at wholesale or would you have to pay retail even if you wanted a case. Retail price was so cheap back then I can't imagine picking it up for less. People always talk about how the collecting boom didn't start until the late 80's but obviously there were folks flipping and stashing away unopened material way back then. >>



    Agreed!! Love these stories.


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
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    itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    that Rosen ad is a howl. i do remember it.
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    minnesotahuskerminnesotahusker Posts: 642 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The bad thing is my kids don't care anything about cards and have no interest in my collection. Since I don't go to shows anymore i don't know local collectors anymore so I don't get the opportunity to share th passion anymore. Thats why I like finding this board.

    Jim >>




    Dad, long time, no see. Have I ever told you how much I love your sports card collection and can't wait to share your passion for it!!
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    YogiBerraFanYogiBerraFan Posts: 2,390 ✭✭
    Great thread!
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    Tedw9Tedw9 Posts: 1,424 ✭✭
    WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW!!!!!


    Nice opening thread!!!! What an amazing collection. Thanks for posting pics.
    Looking for Carl Willey items.
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    stevekstevek Posts: 27,769 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yea, and like a lot of those ads, the product seemed overpriced at the time. LOL
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    itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭


    << <i>Yea, and like a lot of those ads, the product seemed overpriced at the time. LOL >>



    i thought i'd known of someone who actually purchased some of those from Rosen, but it turns out i was wrong.....he never got anything from that particular find.

    the reason i was curious was because i had an old consignor's receipt of his from an auction held in 2004.

    turns out the item i remembered was a 1955 Bowman FB wax box which was purchased several years prior. it sold for almost 34,000 bucks.

    that stuff was underpriced. image
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    jmoran19jmoran19 Posts: 1,605 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Love the 60's packs, and the 70's packs ain't bad either. image

    Interesting with the 1966 rack pack - I wouldn't have guessed that a ruboff would have been included in a rack pack...I would have figured the ruboffs were only in the waxpacks. >>



    For rack packs 1967 and older Topps just wrapped up 3 individual cello packs (see the descriptions in the ads below), so if there was an insert in the cello packs they should be there in the rack packs. Here are a few Topps sell sheets advertising raks from the 60's, John:

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    Current obsession, all things Topps 1969 - 1972

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    stevekstevek Posts: 27,769 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Yea, and like a lot of those ads, the product seemed overpriced at the time. LOL >>



    i thought i'd known of someone who actually purchased some of those from Rosen, but it turns out i was wrong.....he never got anything from that particular find.

    the reason i was curious was because i had an old consignor's receipt of his from an auction held in 2004.

    turns out the item i remembered was a 1955 Bowman FB wax box which was purchased several years prior. it sold for almost 34,000 bucks.

    that stuff was underpriced. image >>



    Of course hindsight is always 100% right. I'd be fairly certain there were similar ads for vintage mint postage stamps during that time in which as some may already know, interest in stamp collecting has fallen thru the floor. Ya never know for sure...and as we post, somewhere out there right now is an ad for a collectible that nobody has much interest in, in which that item will be worth a small fortune in around 20 years.
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    stevekstevek Posts: 27,769 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Love the 60's packs, and the 70's packs ain't bad either. image

    Interesting with the 1966 rack pack - I wouldn't have guessed that a ruboff would have been included in a rack pack...I would have figured the ruboffs were only in the waxpacks. >>



    For rack packs 1967 and older Topps just wrapped up 3 individual cello packs (see the descriptions in the ads below), so if there was an insert in the cello packs they should be there in the rack packs. Here are a few Topps sell sheets advertising raks from the 60's, John:

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