I spent the afternoon at the safe deposit box. Out of 203 PCGS slabs from before the blue label era, only one was a doily. I used to have 2 others, but sold them at auction about 6 years ago.
Funny thing, I just added the very first certified Roosie to the census. There are many sample Roosie slabs, but this is the first non-sample with a grade...funny that they are rare in one capacity and common in another...curious no?
nice haul there. pretty cool that the commems are a couple of cert numbers apart from one another, must have been part of the same original submission. still not liking those spots on the Grant, hope they aren't as bad in person as they look in the photos.
<< <i>Anyone know why the Doilies were so short lived?
HH >>
Just scrollin back through this behemoth for the hell of it.
IIRC the doily was created to make it tougher to duplicate the label/insert. The double holder era was nearing the end of its transition between the rattler and the current issue style holder. Apparently, HRH was not enamored with the appearance of the doily and requested it be nixed when the supply of labels ran out.
<< <i>Just won this one off TT for a good price, don't see it in the census yet.
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Uhhh Yeah. That a $15 coin? >>
I agree, Lee. That one was at $80 with an hour to go.....considering it's $15-$20, seems like a big premium....plus the shipping and buyers fee....into it for $125-$130.....
$206 for that, given that numismedia lists those at $40 in MS66 ($166 premium), and the one I won at $26 ($166 premium would put it at $192), I'm pretty sure I can get my money out of it if I ever want to.
Not that I will. Regret selling the last doily I had, so...
<< <i>Woohoo Got My First Real Doily. Thanks to tom(bajjerfan) For the help. When I get it will post the number. Picked off for 80 and the juice. Enjoy >>
<< <i>Woohoo Got My First Real Doily. Thanks to tom(bajjerfan) For the help. When I get it will post the number. Picked off for 80 and the juice. Enjoy >>
<< <i>a couple more i found 1877 3 cent PCGS PF-65 # 003773 1903-S $5 gold MS-62 # 008408 >>
Cert numbers don't exist. Can you confirm the numbers?
Updated. I guess we have to look forward to Oreville's massive submission. Sounds like something that's going to rock the doily boat, to use a common PCGS saying.
I saw a Doily 1891 MS64 Seated dime at the ANA yesterday. I figured a premium of $200 tops. The dealer wanted $1400 for a $400 coin!! He'll never sell it!
There's been a sharp decrease in doily submissions as of late. Either the supply has started to dwindle, the demand has decreased, or coin collecting is in one of it's perennial lulls (which seems to happen around this time of year.) Just an observation.
Oreville; I am curious to know more about your newest doily with the hand-cut tag. What have you discovered...is this a fluke? Please share your findings...please-o-please!
There are numerous PCGS staff helping to uncover (or recover) the old information on this old doily sample slab.
I should get more information after the Long Beach show.
Don Willis, David Hall, Van Simmons, John Danreuther, Sandy Locker, BJ Searles, and others have already reviewed this slab and have already assisted me in piecing together various information about this sample slab.
David Hall admitted to me that he was not in the operations end of PCGS at the time in 1989 so he was not able to help too much.
I know I am not seeing many in the internet situations. Ebay has the same retread(s). Searches there are starting to turn up other early holders that have descriptions including the word "Doily" but aren't themselves Doilies, and it seems any additions I have had in the last 3 months or so have been flukes. Long Beach June was the last I really found any. The Arkansas I added was one I had known about for several years, and other than that . . . . zip.
Anything I say might be construed as self-serving, but I'll throw this out there anyway. There just isn't going to be a never-ending supply. Eventually (ok, I don't know how long, but not THAT long) we will not see anything but a really random holder showing up. How can they keep just coming out? Yup, there will be an occasional one or two from grandpa's SDB opened up in 30 years, but I think the Doily attention that myself and a couple of others have spawned is just fun. In time our attention to them is going to drive the available ones out and that will be that. I really don't think the few out there we don't have in the Census are held by strong hands just waiting to capitalize on "Doily Fever". You have just as good a chance of happening upon one at the local B&M, or running into one in the back tables at Long Beach, or at a local show than finding one on eBay, and the ones you get at a show or at the B&M are liable to be a LOT cheaper.
Another random thought. I think we all like the idea that in this hobby properly selected material, properly held, for a proper length of time, has the chance of being an 'investment' of sorts. Nothing to count on, but perhaps part of a portfolio that has the added benefit of a bit more 'fun' than your stocks. I have often said that the Doily search I have had a blast with is PART of a numismatic collection, but FAR from being the 'only' numismatic investing I do. I certainly hope that the Doilies I buy will at least hold their value, but I have also repeatedly described that these are a part of history, a window into a VERY specific time period of grading, and something that is 'rare' (no, I didn't say valuable, I said 'rare') to find at a show. I find 23 1909-S-VDBs at every local show, 19 1916-D dimes, and even 2 1901-S quarters, but NO Doilies. Yes, I understand the difference and I get a thrill from having my S-VDB, but I also have a 'collecting' mentality, and to get coins in holders that are historical is just (to me) the best of two worlds. The point? I don't buy Doilies to make money. I buy Doilies for the fun of it, the camaraderie with others who like to hunt for them, and the history. Most seem to be Morgans. I may eventually just sell them for the silver . . .
OK . . . enough of the rant. I do believe we may be seeing a slowing of supply. It may have absolutely NOTHING to do with Doily value, but the eventually ceasing of supply was (or is) bound to happen.
$320 + juice, ouch . . does juice including shipping? . . >>
No, juice does not include shipping. Figger maybe $10 for that. Keep in mind that there are those who collect variety sets in doilies and that Morgans/dollars make up almost half of the known population. There are 19 Mercs [none before 1930] in the pop report thread so your chances of landing a first year of issue Merc in a doily are very slim. By contrast there are even fewer [4] quarters in doilies.
That is actually kind of a neat crusty looking dime in contrast to a blast white dipped widget [no offense to RickO cuz I like and own white coins too] so it looks like some lucky stiff got a neat coin in a desirable holder.
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to bad it cost me a arm and both legs
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Very nice...good to hear that you ended up with the $3 piece! A real nice addition to the census.
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My First Doily! Feel free to add it to the census.
Looks like it is the 3rd for this date.
1944 Mercury Dime MS65
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Added this week are two Franklins (one proof and one business strike) a Merc and the much discussed Canadian Silver Proof.
1947-S Roosevelt in MS66
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<< <i>Just grabbed a Doily for the first time this afternoon. I have actually never owned one. 1912 Liberty Nickel.
nice grab, I am sure DOILY DUDE will be jealous at that BIN Price (LINK) and then RESOLD LINK
edit to add links
7158.64/7303332
1886 Morgan MS65 VAM 1A1
7166.64/6220858
thanks again to KeyLargoRareCoins for the pics
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thanks again to KeyLargoRareCoins for the pics >>
Nice Score on the WALKER
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Funny thing, I just added the very first certified Roosie to the census. There are many sample Roosie slabs, but this is the first non-sample with a grade...funny that they are rare in one capacity and common in another...curious no?
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<< <i>Anyone know why the Doilies were so short lived?
HH >>
Just scrollin back through this behemoth for the hell of it.
IIRC the doily was created to make it tougher to duplicate the label/insert. The double holder era was nearing the end of its transition between the rattler and the current issue style holder. Apparently, HRH was not enamored with the appearance of the doily and requested it be nixed when the supply of labels ran out.
1877 3 cent PCGS PF-65 # 003773
1903-S $5 gold MS-62 # 008408
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This is a HUGE hoard of dolies held by this old time collector, now nearing 80 years of age.
<< <i>Just won this one off TT for a good price, don't see it in the census yet.
Uhhh Yeah. That a $15 coin?
The name is LEE!
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<< <i>Just won this one off TT for a good price, don't see it in the census yet.
Uhhh Yeah. That a $15 coin? >>
I agree, Lee. That one was at $80 with an hour to go.....considering it's $15-$20, seems like a big premium....plus the shipping and buyers fee....into it for $125-$130.....
Ebay
$206 for that, given that numismedia lists those at $40 in MS66 ($166 premium), and the one I won at $26 ($166 premium would put it at $192), I'm pretty sure I can get my money out of it if I ever want to.
Not that I will. Regret selling the last doily I had, so...
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<< <i>Woohoo Got My First Real Doily. Thanks to tom(bajjerfan) For the help. When I get it will post the number. Picked off for 80 and the juice. Enjoy
a steal for sure where did u buy it at for $80
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<< <i>
<< <i>Woohoo Got My First Real Doily. Thanks to tom(bajjerfan) For the help. When I get it will post the number. Picked off for 80 and the juice. Enjoy
a steal for sure where did u buy it at for $80 >>
Its a secret
I used to be famous now I just collect coins.
Link to My Registry Set.
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Varieties Are The Spice Of LIFE and Thanks to Those who teach us what to search For.
<< <i>a couple more i found
1877 3 cent PCGS PF-65 # 003773
1903-S $5 gold MS-62 # 008408 >>
Cert numbers don't exist. Can you confirm the numbers?
Updated. I guess we have to look forward to Oreville's massive submission. Sounds like something that's going to rock the doily boat, to use a common PCGS saying.
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Perhaps this doily needs to be put in a separate doily category as it is unlike all other doilies. I believe there were 20 these made.
I am working with PCGS to get the background information on this slab.
<< <i>Add this doily sample slab to the list.
Perhaps this doily needs to be put in a separate doily category as it is unlike all other doilies. I believe there were 20 these made.
I am working with PCGS to get the background information on this slab.
NEW DOILY Discovery! Maybe you should start a new category.
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There's been a sharp decrease in doily submissions as of late. Either the supply has started to dwindle, the demand has decreased, or coin collecting is in one of it's perennial lulls (which seems to happen around this time of year.) Just an observation.
Oreville; I am curious to know more about your newest doily with the hand-cut tag. What have you discovered...is this a fluke? Please share your findings...please-o-please!
There are numerous PCGS staff helping to uncover (or recover) the old information on this old doily sample slab.
I should get more information after the Long Beach show.
Don Willis, David Hall, Van Simmons, John Danreuther, Sandy Locker, BJ Searles, and others have already reviewed this slab and have already assisted me in piecing together various information about this sample slab.
David Hall admitted to me that he was not in the operations end of PCGS at the time in 1989 so he was not able to help too much.
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I know I am not seeing many in the internet situations. Ebay has the same retread(s). Searches there are starting to turn up other early holders that have descriptions including the word "Doily" but aren't themselves Doilies, and it seems any additions I have had in the last 3 months or so have been flukes. Long Beach June was the last I really found any. The Arkansas I added was one I had known about for several years, and other than that . . . . zip.
Anything I say might be construed as self-serving, but I'll throw this out there anyway. There just isn't going to be a never-ending supply. Eventually (ok, I don't know how long, but not THAT long) we will not see anything but a really random holder showing up. How can they keep just coming out? Yup, there will be an occasional one or two from grandpa's SDB opened up in 30 years, but I think the Doily attention that myself and a couple of others have spawned is just fun. In time our attention to them is going to drive the available ones out and that will be that. I really don't think the few out there we don't have in the Census are held by strong hands just waiting to capitalize on "Doily Fever". You have just as good a chance of happening upon one at the local B&M, or running into one in the back tables at Long Beach, or at a local show than finding one on eBay, and the ones you get at a show or at the B&M are liable to be a LOT cheaper.
Another random thought. I think we all like the idea that in this hobby properly selected material, properly held, for a proper length of time, has the chance of being an 'investment' of sorts. Nothing to count on, but perhaps part of a portfolio that has the added benefit of a bit more 'fun' than your stocks. I have often said that the Doily search I have had a blast with is PART of a numismatic collection, but FAR from being the 'only' numismatic investing I do. I certainly hope that the Doilies I buy will at least hold their value, but I have also repeatedly described that these are a part of history, a window into a VERY specific time period of grading, and something that is 'rare' (no, I didn't say valuable, I said 'rare') to find at a show. I find 23 1909-S-VDBs at every local show, 19 1916-D dimes, and even 2 1901-S quarters, but NO Doilies. Yes, I understand the difference and I get a thrill from having my S-VDB, but I also have a 'collecting' mentality, and to get coins in holders that are historical is just (to me) the best of two worlds. The point? I don't buy Doilies to make money. I buy Doilies for the fun of it, the camaraderie with others who like to hunt for them, and the history. Most seem to be Morgans. I may eventually just sell them for the silver . . .
OK . . . enough of the rant. I do believe we may be seeing a slowing of supply. It may have absolutely NOTHING to do with Doily value, but the eventually ceasing of supply was (or is) bound to happen.
Drunner
(Doily Slut)
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Wow didn't check that closely,
$320 + juice, ouch
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does juice including shipping?
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Wow didn't check that closely,
$320 + juice, ouch
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does juice including shipping?
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No, juice does not include shipping. Figger maybe $10 for that. Keep in mind that there are those who collect variety sets in doilies and that Morgans/dollars make up almost half of the known population. There are 19 Mercs [none before 1930] in the pop report thread so your chances of landing a first year of issue Merc in a doily are very slim. By contrast there are even fewer [4] quarters in doilies.
That is actually kind of a neat crusty looking dime in contrast to a blast white dipped widget [no offense to RickO cuz I like and own white coins too] so it looks like some lucky stiff got a neat coin in a desirable holder.
1917-S Standing Liberty Quarter PCGS Doily
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<< <i>a couple more i found
1877 3 cent PCGS PF-65 # 003773
1903-S $5 gold MS-62 # 008408 >>
gotta post pics or provide cert numbers for them to get added to the census
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