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Why do buyers ask what you want for itiem?
Scottiec2288
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Why do people on BST ask what you want for an itiem only to tell you what they are gonna pay for it?
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<< <i>I'm lost and confused.
Doug Squared.
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
priced higher because of condition. The key is letting people know how much the item is or if buying how much you're willing to pay. Don't knock it around like a ping pong ball of emails before
someone has a starting price, and walk away if it doesn't work. Doug
Rick "So whatdya want for it?"
Seller. "$4,000"
Rick "I'll give you $400"
And then they settle on like $800. Desperate times bring great deals, even on EBay. If your looking to buy on the BST at least have a range or price in mind. The card if graded may or may not deserve that price, but know what your looking to spend.
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<< <i>No offers on auctions already going and bid on, that ain't right. Now everything else, well it's not Pawn stars.
Rick "So whatdya want for it?"
Seller. "$4,000"
Rick "I'll give you $400"
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I actually like it when someone is wanting to get $500 for something, they bring in an expert and say thats its value is $5000 and then all of a sudden, the guy is having a problem when he's ONLY offered $3k for it. I also like it when someone is told their item is worth 5k and then they are wanting 5k for it. Like the buyer is there to just increase his stock, forgetting a profit.
I get the same thing in the store with cards sometimes. Card books for $50, I have the same card in the case, same condition for $25, buyer wants to get $40 for it. I couteroffer with about 50% of what they sell for on ebay, since I would be selling that particular card on ebay. Ebay price is about $15-$20, I offer $10, person says he can get more for it, I say fine, no problem, even tell him up front he can get $15-$20 on ebay and he says thats where he JUST bought it from. DOH!!
I've offered up for sale some items here on the B/S/T, as well as other places. I usually state a price up front, because as a buyer I like knowing where we're at up front; I like to give that same courtesy to potential buyers. (Also, didn't know I was "anchoring" but cool!)
On a few occasions I have gotten counter-offers, and they are usually quite low. Just for sake of illustration: I offer card for $100, they offer $50. Now, what I keep thinking is that they are negotiating. They offer something low, and want me to come back with a price that is more to their liking. Usually I say something like "let's split the difference"(in the illustration that would be $75) and almost every single time they say no, my $50 offer is firm.
Now, I've never accepted these low offers. And I've always wound up getting what I actually wanted for the cards, but I just don't get the low-ball, non-negotiating types. Is that some kind of style of negotiating? Do they see my low posting numbers and think I don't know better? I have no idea. Any thoughts? Thanks!
I wish there was a way to block certain people from sending you ebay messages,
<< <i>Now, I've never accepted these low offers. And I've always wound up getting what I actually wanted for the cards, but I just don't get the low-ball, non-negotiating types. Is that some kind of style of negotiating? Do they see my low posting numbers and think I don't know better? I have no idea. Any thoughts? Thanks >>
Flippers. Nothing more. Looking for an easy buck.
Looking at the possible reasons now, it seems obvious.
<< <i>Lowball buyers think they are negotiating, but in reality they are fishing for a desperate seller. I get these offers all the time on ebay, typically I ignore them but some persistent fisherman keep asking for a response.
I wish there was a way to block certain people from sending you ebay messages, >>
I believe if you block people from bidding on your auctions, this will also block them from sending you ebay messages. (you may need to check an option for this.) I've done this before for constant lowballers.
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Some items last night were listed for a total of $750. I offered $500 as that's the price per item I am comfortable with. I got a counter of $600, I said let's meet in the middle and we did. We were both using smart phones, and I was sent a mobile paypal invoice. It was done in a few minutes. He loved it, I loved it and I wish all transactions were that smooth.
Happy bidding and countering...
"Live everyday, don't throw it away"
<< <i>Why do people on BST ask what you want for an itiem only to tell you what they are gonna pay for it? >>
Ya know Scottie...
There's phenomena in our vast universe that just defies explanation and we mere mortals just have to scratch our collective heads - except for Stephen Hawking - of course.
Heck, I'm still pondering who invented liquid soap...and why?
<< <i>Just ask what is the best you can do and then go from there. >>
This question from a possible buyer pisses me off on eBay for some reason more than anything else. I have a lot of BIN or best offers up were I have it set to decline below X amount and lately a lot of people have been asking this question instead of even making an offer. I just don't get it. If I didn't have the or best offer option I would understand this a little more but dang make an offer.
Why, because he is one of the coolest dudes on the boards, that's why.
Very well said...
"Live everyday, don't throw it away"
<< <i>I don't understand why sellers are always complaining about low-ball offers, and buyers are always complaining about high prices. When I'm a seller, I'd rather receive a low-ball offer than no offer at all. When I'm a buyer, I'd rather see something offered at a high price, instead of not being available at all. >>
In my case, I was curious (not exactly complaining) because besides my general confusion at the lack of negotiation, the extreme low-ball offers seemed predatory, and some of the more thoughtful responses on the board confirmed that.
I personally do not like to profit off of other people's misfortune, and certainly do not want anyone to profit from my misfortune.
I guess what needs to be the standard caveat on these posts is that I am not saying I am right and the low-ballers or those who agree with them are wrong. My system works for me and makes me happy, and other people's ways of thinking works for them.
Would you sell a car without listing a price on it? and when someone asks what you want for it, would you answer "what would you give me for it"? I doubt it.
<< <i>If (and only if) I see "best offer" I'll message the seller and ask what's the absolute best they can do on the item. If it's too much for me I pass >>
????? I am honestly surprised any dealer would answer that. The bottom line is the buyers want to get items as cheaply as possible - the sellers want to make as much as they can. To ask a seller his "rock bottom" price - unless the item has been sitting for years on end, no seller is going to have a rock bottom price.
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<< <i>If (and only if) I see "best offer" I'll message the seller and ask what's the absolute best they can do on the item. If it's too much for me I pass >>
????? I am honestly surprised any dealer would answer that. The bottom line is the buyers want to get items as cheaply as possible - the sellers want to make as much as they can. To ask a seller his "rock bottom" price - unless the item has been sitting for years on end, no seller is going to have a rock bottom price. >>
There're many customers (and sellers) who don't like negotiating. This is one reason why places like CARMAX flourish.
<< <i>This is one reason why places like CARMAX flourish >>
True...also the reason 707 flourishes. They might not be the cheapest game in town, but they set their prices and have what you want. However, savvy buyers will NOT buy a card from 707, nor will savvy car shopper buy a car from Carmax. But in your topic, you are comparing a set price dealer (Carmax) to a standar dealer (price negotiating).....something about your argument is flawed.
<< <i> savvy buyers will NOT buy a card from 707 >>
Really?
I consider myself savvy and I have bought from 707, as has many other savvy buyers.
Do you really think all his sales are from uneducated buyers?
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<< <i> savvy buyers will NOT buy a card from 707 >>
Really?
I consider myself savvy and I have bought from 707, as has many other savvy buyers.
Do you really think all his sales are from uneducated buyers? >>
He means as savvy as he is, Steve. The standard is pretty high.
<< <i>Do you really think all his sales are from uneducated buyers? >>
No....I think his sales are to people that are impatient, or too lazy to do their homework on what a card truly costs. You can equate that to having more money than sense.
<< <i>He means as savvy as he is, Steve. The standard is pretty high. >>
I am nothing compared to you Detroitfan. They broke the mold when they made you.
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<< <i>Do you really think all his sales are from uneducated buyers? >>
No....I think his sales are to people that are impatient, or too lazy to do their homework on what a card truly costs. You can equate that to having more money than sense. >>
Gotta agree with this myself. Can't tell you how many cards I've bought from ebay that were higher grade with better centering, and for LESS than competing offerings from 707. The one or two times I tried to negotiate a price with them, their idea of good negotiating was to knock off 2 bucks and some change. So yeah, quite frankly, if you buy from them, you're desperate for the card, wildly uneducated about the card, or a rube.
<< <i>Because sellers have formed in their own mind what the item is worth without respect to the actual market value or demand. Prices fluctuate, and this stuff is an investment. Either you can offload quickly for less, or let it sit and hope you find a buyer willing to pay. These cards aren't worth what you paid for them, or what a book says they're worth, but what someone will pay. And that goes to show buyers are smart. I mean, what would you think of someone who bought a new car for the sticker price? Either rich or an idiot. A card is no different. >>
I have actually worked for a car company and studied pricing. New car buyers may think they are smart, but in reality they are playing the game set-up by the manufacturer and dealer. People who buy cars do not neccessarily want a great deal, they want the FEELING that they got a good deal. Two car companies tried fixed pricing on new cars - Saturn and VW. Saturn is out of business (for many reasons), VW pulled the plug after their sales dropped. The prices on the VW cars were actually set at the same level (adjusted for options and inflation) as the average transaction prices from the previous year. They couldn't convince buyers that the fixed prices they set were good prices, people still wanted discounts.
VW scrapped the plan and went back to normal MSRP pricing. If you are buying a new car, you are a fool anyways since the value declines 20% as soon as you start it. The 2-3 year old used market is where the real deals are at. Dealer makes more money, Buyer gets a great car for 50-60% of the cost, and it is all funded by the smart new car buyers who didn't pay sticker.
So my point is that the card market is different than the car market.
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<< <i>Do you really think all his sales are from uneducated buyers? >>
No....I think his sales are to people that are impatient, or too lazy to do their homework on what a card truly costs. You can equate that to having more money than sense. >>
<< <i>No....I think his sales are to people that are impatient, or too lazy to do their homework on what a card truly costs. You can equate that to having more money than sense. >>
One thing for sure is, he won't try to pawn off a trimmed card on anyone.