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So I purchased an item and now the seller won't ship...what to do.

Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
I purchased a rather nice jewelry and coin scale via auction on ebay. I thought I got it rather cheap and won the auction. The next day the seller refunds my money and then lets me know that he accidently posted it for sale and that he had already sold the last one.

BIG LIE, tonight I look for the same scale and what do you know.... he has the same one listed again.

Is there any recourse?

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    frnklnlvrfrnklnlvr Posts: 2,750
    Not sure about recourse but I'd confront him about it and avoid buying from him in the future.

    Edit: You could out the seller so others can avoid wasting their time with him.
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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    call ebay and let them know.

    win new auction and don't pay.

    "A car is a tool that takes you from one place to another. Everything beyond that is a payment for other people's perception of you."

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    droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭
    Nothing really you can do, eBay won't do anything in a case like this.
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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,170 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just move on.
    All glory is fleeting.
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    Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
    I'd is providentmetals
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    greghansengreghansen Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭
    I've had this happen before on coin items. Bottom line is there is no way to 'force' the seller to go through with the transaction. You can leave negative feedback. Fortunately, scales of this type are very reasonably priced and there are several good ones available at any given time on EBAY. I'd move on and buy one of the others, and leave this bad seller behind.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Neg him.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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    EBAY has become a scammer's venue delight, both on the buyer and seller end of things. IT's unfortunate for the few legit Sellers left. I refuse to list auction items using EBAY. Their Fee's and the high risk of getting caught up in someone's scam.........just isn't worth the effort or cost's . Years ago, I was a full time dealer in NYS and had to retire due to health reasons. Now I just occasionally buy & sell, but only use the BST Forums. It's less aggravation.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree, the BST is the best way to deal. Cheers, RickO
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    << <i>Nothing really you can do, eBay won't do anything in a case like this. >>



    Nothing really you can do, eBay won't do anything in a case like this.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,512 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Nothing really you can do, eBay won't do anything in a case like this. >>



    Nothing really you can do, eBay won't do anything in a case like this. >>



    NEG HIM!!! At least other bidders will be warned of his unethical business practices and he may loose some business on future auctions.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
    bummer. give em real bad negative.
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    BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'd is providentmetals >>



    This isnt the internet bullion dealers "Provident Metals" is it?-----BigE
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    BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 6,197 ✭✭✭✭✭


    NEG HIM!!! At least other bidders will be warned of his unethical business practices and he may loose some business on future auctions. >>





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    Classof67Classof67 Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>I'd is providentmetals >>



    This isnt the internet bullion dealers "Provident Metals" is it?-----BigE >>



    Yep, same one.
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    BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    If it was me, I'd call their physical store and talk nicely to the owner and tell him the scale or an ASE or a neg., that simple------------BigE
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    coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,510 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Provident Metals has already earned a bunch of bad PR from here, so I'll second BigE's advice.

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    Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
    It's unfortunate because they used to sell their better date circ coins on eBay and I got some good deals. I had one other problem before where they listed a 1927 D dime that was a 1921 D. It was a solid xf and I won the darn thing for $25 along with a few other items. Well needless to say they never shipped the coin with the others.

    Buyer beware with these unethical folks.
    Awarded the coveted "You Suck" Award on 22 Oct 2010 for finding a 1942/1 D Dime in silver, and on 7 Feb 2011 Cherrypicking a 1914 MPL Cent on Ebay!

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    more and more people get ripped off fleabay everyday some will never learn
    dont send sheep to kill a wolf...
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    Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If it was me, I'd call their physical store and talk nicely to the owner and tell him the scale or an ASE or a neg., that simple------------BigE >>



    Payment was immediately refunded so I don't think I can do that. They will be getting an ugly negative.
    Awarded the coveted "You Suck" Award on 22 Oct 2010 for finding a 1942/1 D Dime in silver, and on 7 Feb 2011 Cherrypicking a 1914 MPL Cent on Ebay!

    Successful BST Transactions!SIconbuster, Meltdown, Mission16, slothman2000, RGjohn, braddick, au58lover, allcoinsrule, commemdude, gerard, lablade, PCcoins, greencopper, kaz, tydye, cucamongacoin, mkman123, SeaEaglecoins, Doh!, AnkurJ, Airplanenut, ArizonaJack, JJM,Tee135,LordMarcovan, Swampboy, piecesofme, Ahrensdad,
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    This is a no-brainer case where the seller earned a neg.

    Russ, NCNE
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Nothing really you can do, eBay won't do anything in a case like this. >>



    Nothing really you can do, eBay won't do anything in a case like this. >>



    In all my years on ebay this has never happened to me so I wonder how so many have experience with this. Or are people just repeating what they have heard?

    I would give ebay a chance to pressure the seller into making it right. Since he has the item relisted, ebay should have no qualms in telling him to honor the deal. And trust me, as a seller, I know that ebay can put enough pressure on him to make it right.--jerry
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>If it was me, I'd call their physical store and talk nicely to the owner and tell him the scale or an ASE or a neg., that simple------------BigE >>



    Payment was immediately refunded so I don't think I can do that. They will be getting an ugly negative. >>



    Make sure you note in the neg that the item was relisted in order to blunt at least one of the lies they can attempt in their followup.

    Russ, NCNE
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    poorguypoorguy Posts: 4,317
    Neg him? He certainly deserves it. Or you could rationally explain the consequences of his actions to him in a way that you might get the item for free since it's cheap. image

    I remember about 10 years ago, I won a coin off ebay that I had to really fight for with another bidder. I recieve the item with a printout of the auction page and the price circled. I'm not sure how dense this seller was but on the page he printed off, right there literally in black and white (ink) was the line "You Have Been Outbid". I thought about it for a second and realized I caught this scumbag in a shill. Cheapest coin I ever got off ebay. image
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    Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
    Sure will Russ, I was hoping that you would make a comment here.

    Yes it is a no brainer neg. Just makes me sick that they can't follow through with a binding agreement. I didn't even have time to respond to his email before he immediately refunded my money and told me that he didn't have any more in stock.
    Awarded the coveted "You Suck" Award on 22 Oct 2010 for finding a 1942/1 D Dime in silver, and on 7 Feb 2011 Cherrypicking a 1914 MPL Cent on Ebay!

    Successful BST Transactions!SIconbuster, Meltdown, Mission16, slothman2000, RGjohn, braddick, au58lover, allcoinsrule, commemdude, gerard, lablade, PCcoins, greencopper, kaz, tydye, cucamongacoin, mkman123, SeaEaglecoins, Doh!, AnkurJ, Airplanenut, ArizonaJack, JJM,Tee135,LordMarcovan, Swampboy, piecesofme, Ahrensdad,
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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,555 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Neg him. >>



    Get in Line! So much bad feedback, takes a minute to load!

    "A car is a tool that takes you from one place to another. Everything beyond that is a payment for other people's perception of you."

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    pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭
    I bought a Missouri Commen a while back for 450, a few days later i got a note saying they could not locate the coin and refunded my money. I saw the same coin relisted a month later for 600.

    I would just move on, while it suxs sometimes you run across sellers like that. IMO you run across more issues when dealing with BST board and craiglist over ebay listings.

    Neg him if it makes you feel better, nowdays you do not have to worry about a seller leaving you a neg. Personally i does not bother me to buy from a seller with a few negs that has done over 750 tranactions. You are bound to end with with a few unhappy campers if you do it enough.
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    lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't waste another second on this issue.
    LCoopie = Les
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    You can stop trying to purchase from him.
    Winner of the "You Suck!" award March 17, 2010 by LanLord, doh, 123cents and Bear.
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    robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just move on... They are lots of other better deals, & better sellers too.
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>more and more people get ripped off fleabay everyday some will never learn >>



    99.99 % of transactions on ebay are smooth and honest. This type of attitude throws the baby out with the bathwater and makes it pretty hard on us sellers. --Jerry
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,030 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Neg him. >>



    I agree and add the comment that Seller fails to honor bids.
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    mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭


    << <i>more and more people get ripped off fleabay everyday some will never learn >>

    Of course the seller should have completed the transaction, but considering that he refunded the payment, how was the buyer ripped off?
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    mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>more and more people get ripped off fleabay everyday some will never learn >>

    Of course the seller should have completed the transaction, but considering that he refunded the payment, how was the buyer ripped off? >>



    So if I steal goods or money from you then promptly return what i stole would you say the same comment as above? >>

    No. But then, the seller didn't steal the money, did he? The buyer sent the money to him voluntarily, and the seller returned it.
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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Let it go............MJ
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    Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>more and more people get ripped off fleabay everyday some will never learn >>

    Of course the seller should have completed the transaction, but considering that he refunded the payment, how was the buyer ripped off? >>



    So if I steal goods or money from you then promptly return what i stole would you say the same comment as above? >>

    No. But then, the seller didn't steal the money, did he? The buyer sent the money to him voluntarily, and the seller returned it. >>



    An ebay win is a binding contract with seller. Payment was made promptly. Delivery was not.

    Also, it looks like you have to wait 7 days to file NEG feedback now a days. I will have to do it monday morning.
    Awarded the coveted "You Suck" Award on 22 Oct 2010 for finding a 1942/1 D Dime in silver, and on 7 Feb 2011 Cherrypicking a 1914 MPL Cent on Ebay!

    Successful BST Transactions!SIconbuster, Meltdown, Mission16, slothman2000, RGjohn, braddick, au58lover, allcoinsrule, commemdude, gerard, lablade, PCcoins, greencopper, kaz, tydye, cucamongacoin, mkman123, SeaEaglecoins, Doh!, AnkurJ, Airplanenut, ArizonaJack, JJM,Tee135,LordMarcovan, Swampboy, piecesofme, Ahrensdad,
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    paladinpaladin Posts: 898 ✭✭

    I've had this sort of thing happen twice in the past 10 years. When all is said and done, all you can do is neg and move on. Surprised about Provident, though. Thought they were better than that. But then again, I said the same thing about APMEX not too long ago.

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Having made the mistake of ordering coins from an eBay seller who refuses to ship to addresses with the name "Coin" in it, I asked him what else a guy should name a coin shop if he were to own a B&M : "Tupperware Numismatics " ?
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,512 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Having made the mistake of ordering coins from an eBay seller who refuses to ship to addresses with the name "Coin" in it, I asked him what else a guy should name a coin shop if he were to own a B&M : "Tupperware Numismatics " ? >>



    I've ordered coins from dealers and the smart ones abbreviate "coins" or just drop the word entirely. For example, "Liberty" on their return address rather than "Liberty Rare Coins". Why not just send it to you by addressing it to your personal name rather that your company name? Sounds like a lame excuse on the part of the seller to not go through with a transaction.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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    CyStaterCyStater Posts: 681 ✭✭✭
    Thank you for the warning. I was going to place my next PM order through them now I will use Gainseville or APMEX instead. I have no time for sellers that pull crap like this and will not do business with them.
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    Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
    I didn't realize that they have a rather large online buisness..... makes you wonder why they pull the crap they do on ebay. They are really hurting their buisness by treating ebay customers like garbage.
    Awarded the coveted "You Suck" Award on 22 Oct 2010 for finding a 1942/1 D Dime in silver, and on 7 Feb 2011 Cherrypicking a 1914 MPL Cent on Ebay!

    Successful BST Transactions!SIconbuster, Meltdown, Mission16, slothman2000, RGjohn, braddick, au58lover, allcoinsrule, commemdude, gerard, lablade, PCcoins, greencopper, kaz, tydye, cucamongacoin, mkman123, SeaEaglecoins, Doh!, AnkurJ, Airplanenut, ArizonaJack, JJM,Tee135,LordMarcovan, Swampboy, piecesofme, Ahrensdad,
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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,702 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>more and more people get ripped off fleabay everyday some will never learn >>

    Of course the seller should have completed the transaction, but considering that he refunded the payment, how was the buyer ripped off? >>



    So if I steal goods or money from you then promptly return what i stole would you say the same comment as above? >>

    No. But then, the seller didn't steal the money, did he? The buyer sent the money to him voluntarily, and the seller returned it. >>

    Suppose the buyer misses an opportunity to purchase a different item because the seller is currently holding the payment, and the buyer expects to receive the one he already purchased. When the funds are later refunded, the buyer doesn't get to rewind and have an opportunity to purchase the similar items that have already closed.
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