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Comments on my latest NEWP --- 1805 1/2 Cent --- opinions sought

pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
Recently I purchased an early copper from one of our board members to include in my raw type set.

The coin was slabbed when I purchased her, but she's free again now, and residing in a Whitman Classic Type Album (similar to a 7070, although this is a two album set).

I was (and am) quite happy with the quality of the piece, but would appreciate any opinions from the copper guys, EAC'ers, or anyone else who wants to chime in.

I really am more of a silver and nickel guy, and my targeted grade ranges are typically higher than this piece, so maybe I will learn a little more by hearing what you think.

Based on all my studying and knowledge I have an opinion on grade, both my own and that of the TPG who had slabbed it, and I also have a feeling for surface quality and the like ... but again, I would really love to hear your take, especially if you specialize in these.

Here she is;

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“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”

Todd - BHNC #242

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    AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,375 ✭✭✭✭
    Its decent, but the obverse surafaces are a little rough.
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 36,020 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1805 half cent, Large 5, with stems, C-4, R-2

    As a group the 1805 half cents are scarcer than the 1804 and 1806 half cents. This piece is slightly scarcer than the 1805 large 5 stemless variety. The other two 1805 half cent varieites, C-2 (rare) and C-3 (very scarce), are the small 5 stems varieties.

    The grade for most folks would be VF-25 to 30. A few EAC people would call it Fine-15 but charge VF money so you end up in the same place.
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    I think it would probably be closer to 35 in a TPG holder. Those are not bad surfaces for a DB half cent. Like Bill said, this is a better date. The color may not look quite like the photo as the light can make a big difference on these. I would prefer it kept in the slab but I like it.

    --Jerry
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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like it! image
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    pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks everyone (so far) ...



    Al ... cost me some silver, that's for sure! image

    Ankur ... rough? If you care to elaborate either here or PM, I'm all ears (or eyes as the case may be)

    Bill, Thank you again ... yes, it is a C-4, and Bill's attribution and scarcity information is spot on IMO (of course my opinion carries much less weight)

    Jerry, no, the color is not quite right in my photo ... a little too much contast (??) probably. It's definately a bit more of that dark mahogany (??) brown then the picture, now that I look again. I'll have to work on that. As for keeping it in the slab, well, I crack a lot of them out, so I'll probably be a great moneymaker for the TPG's down the road. image There's a certain point I won't, but for a lot of things, I prefer them naked.

    Greg ... Thanks! and good luck with your newest hunt!



    Please keep them coming ... the more I can learn the better image

    “We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”

    Todd - BHNC #242
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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 24,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like it quite a bit.image
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    joecopperjoecopper Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭
    pursuit - looks like a solid coin to me
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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,598 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Todd, she is one lovely senior citizen.
    She epitomizes a classic coin that has kept her origins.
    Not much tampering on that one!!
    The fields are wonderful.....not to mention the devices....her 'Mona Lisa' smile is contagious.
    Congrats!!! image
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    LotsoLuckLotsoLuck Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭
    I think that is a great looking coin, congrats to you.
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    pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow ... I thought this thread died yesterday ... thanks for the latest comments

    Goldbully ... love the Mona Lisa smile comment ... it's funny, but I agree and actually look for that in Bust coinage ... some dies and coins have it, some don't

    any EACer's care to provide a synopsis from the picture?



    “We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”

    Todd - BHNC #242
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    richardshipprichardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
    I really like the look of it!
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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    excuse me for being late to the party, Todd. i like the coin and think it's one of the better dates for the Type. as Bill pointed out there are only four die pairs but my searching taught me that finding any of them in a grade above XF with no problems is difficult. accepting that your picture accurately represents the coin i feel you did well; there is no corrosion, only a few not-so-bad contacts and even wear which gives the coin a smooth look. the only thing i see as close to a problem might be nothing at all, the small spot under the "N" in Cent. my C-1 has better detail but slight corrosion on the obverse.

    great coin!!image

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