fake pcgs slabs on ebay

indiananationals · July 13, 2011 9:59PM

fake

ive reported it

ambro51 · July 13, 2011 10:08PM

Wow, that guys got some BAD feedback.

I looked on one of his past auctions, and copied this from his text.

1945-D silver war nickel PCGS MS65. Nice Nickel but I got a lot and need some cash I do not accept returns on coins so please ask any questions before bidding. I strive for 100% feedback so if there are any issues please let's sort them out before feedback is left. Also, if you buy any graded coin check it's authenticy with the grade company. My local coin salesman said really good counterfeits are being produced in China. Thank you for looking and happy bidding.

So it seems he has found "his man" in the second to last sentence.

ebay is so stoopid at times.

Banemorth · July 13, 2011 10:13PM

Notice how many people had to file Paypal disputes to get their money back? That's why he no longer accepts Paypal. What a scumbag.

mbogoman · July 13, 2011 10:39PM

Doesn't Ebay require that sellers take some form of electronic payment? None of the payment methods the seller lists are acceptable by Ebay. It would seem that the listing is in violation of that requirement and should be pulled...

BTW - reported

slipgate · July 13, 2011 10:59PM

Hard to believe his account is not suspended. I suspect it will be over this one.

His ad is just too funny - I had to post it so you guys can see it, this will be pulled for sure!

Before I start I have to make it clear, NO PAYPAL, NO EXCEPTIONS. MONEY (Gram, Order) payable to FESCHUK, Theresa or WESTERN U PAYMENTS ONLY. I will also accept cashiers check or personal check but items will not ship until it has cleared. Now up for bid, One PCGS Certified 1883 MS65 Deep Mirror Proof Like Carson City Morgan Silver Dollar, and One PCGS Certified 1878 MS65 Proof Like Carson City Morgan Silver Dollar. The actual graded value for these coins is $1400 for the 1883 CC, and the graded value for the 1878 CC is $2700. Starting price is so low because Ebay maxed out my selling limits for the month, therefore this will be my last auction of the month. This is a Collection Clear Out!!! All Coins Must Go. Rare coins are always a great investment, especially ones like these. This is a one day midnight special liquidation auction with NO RESERVE!!! I am moving for a new job and really need the cash to do so which is why I am selling these awesome coins that were a gift from my dad. These must be shipped insured with signature confirmation. Please be sure to check out some of my other auctions. If there are any certain dates you are looking for please let me know. Please let me know your payment after auction ends. Thank's for looking, happy bidding. And The Winner Takes ALL!!!

greghansen · July 13, 2011 11:11PM

Reported. The sooner he/she is banned, the better.

LeeBone · July 13, 2011 11:26PM

<< Reported. The sooner he/she is banned, the better. >>

People like this just SUCK!

derryb · July 13, 2011 11:35PM

reported counterfeits and violation of payment policy

Simply reporting form for ebay coins and currency (save it to favorites)

AUandAG · July 14, 2011 12:26AM

How did you determine that they are fakes? The cert numbers check out and they
do not show up as fakes on any website I can find. They look like what they should
look like (the coins).
Yes, his payment methods are against the rules and he'll probably get banned but
I don't see the "fake" part.

bob

Auction over....deleted.

stevek · July 14, 2011 12:36AM

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yea...that tells me considering the situation, that he is moving so that law enforcement has difficulty catching up to him. These sort of scammers move from state to state for that reason. To me he doesn't seem new at this - he's got the "sales pitch" down pat.

Bankerbob56 · July 14, 2011 1:04AM

<< How did you determine that they are fakes? The cert numbers check out and they
do not show up as fakes on any website I can find. They look like what they should
look like (the coins).
Yes, his payment methods are against the rules and he'll probably get banned but
I don't see the "fake" part.

bob

Auction over....deleted. >>

Great Q! I would like to learn this skill as well!

coirn · July 14, 2011 1:25AM

What's comical is if the seller complained to eBay in regards to the wording of some of those negatives, they'd be pulled. Buyers are not allowed to express within a negative any dispute filed with eBay and/or paypal.

pheh · July 14, 2011 2:32AM

Funny. #1 hit on Google for "Theresa Feschuk"

RBC Bank USA v. Epps et al -- Nature of Suit: Other Statutes - Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations

DorkGirl · July 14, 2011 2:44AM

The auction is ended.

indiananationals · July 14, 2011 8:27AM

i contacted him and informed him i would turn him in to pcgs and he could face a lawsuit ....guess it worked

asl for the slabs being fake they just look fake to me

Jobessi · July 14, 2011 8:36AM

The listing that was up the 78&83 cc was mention by another buyer in his feed back as never receieved (negative of course). What a scumbag. That just hurts legitimate ppl that are selling the real stuff online by scaring away bidders that have been burned in the past.

Frankcoins · July 14, 2011 8:54AM

If these sellers of fake coins would just list a German WW2 item, we could get rid of them.

Here is what happened to me today.

I listed a German 1939 War Merit medal which was a non-military issue given to
CIVILIANS who worked in factories. Since the medal displays a swastika on
one side, I had an image of only the side with the inscription "For War Merit" (In
German.)

In addition, I blocked the sale to all countries except the US, stated in the text
that it was for sale only to collectors of militaria in the US, that it would not be
shipped to countries where such items were against the law, and was being sold
only as a historical item.

A potential bidder wrote and asked this question:
Dear frankcoins,
Hi I was wondering what the translation of the inscription is. Thanks for
your kind reply......Cortland.

-cortland248

I replied AS A PRIVATE MESSAGE with a link to this wikipedia article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Merit_Medal
and mentioned that I could not show an image of the side with the swastika as to
not offend eBay.

Well a few hours later, ebay ended the listing, and I noticed that on my Seller
Dashboard, my "policy compliance" went from "high" to "low" instantly for THIS
ONE ITEM and I am guilty of "HATRED AND DISCRIMINATION."

I called my customer service representative and he said this could probably be
removed because I was an 11 year ebay seller and a store owner , but he
needed to check with his supervisor. After about 15 minutes on hold, his tone
changed to that of scolding me like I was a child, that "hatred" was "the most
serious violation of all" on ebay, but WORST OF ALL, he cited the private
message with the potential buyer as proof that I "KNEW I WAS DOING
WRONG" and that KNOWINGLY doing wrong is much more serious than
INNOCENTLY doing wrong, because it was a MATTER OF HEART.

(Anyone else find it disturbing that they can sanction you on information NOT IN THE LISTING that you communicate by private message?)

He suggested that I didn't understand the wrongness of hatred and Nazism (My
Dad and uncle both served in World War 2 combat zones...so having some
young kid in India lecture me about the wrongness of the Nazis made me blow
my stack.) I told him to F--- himself and hung up on him, so now I fully expect to
have eBay totally ban me.

Sure enough, I now have selling restrictions when I tried to update an existing
item, and my wife is about to kill me for losing my temper. Guess I better find
some coin shows with openings....

timber100 · July 14, 2011 9:39AM

Frank, sorry to hear that you went thu such Ebay BS when you took what I thought was proper precautions when selling the item. I am confused tho, there are lots of german marks with the swastica clearly shown for sale. What is the difference between those and your medal?

timber100 · July 14, 2011 9:49AM

<< 

<< How did you determine that they are fakes? The cert numbers check out and they
do not show up as fakes on any website I can find. They look like what they should
look like (the coins).
Yes, his payment methods are against the rules and he'll probably get banned but
I don't see the "fake" part.

bob

Auction over....deleted. >>

Great Q! I would like to learn this skill as well! >>

Some interesting reading on fake slabs

link

Jeffrey1 · July 14, 2011 11:52AM

<< Wow, that guys got some BAD feedback.

I looked on one of his past auctions, and copied this from his text.

1945-D silver war nickel PCGS MS65. Nice Nickel but I got a lot and need some cash I do not accept returns on coins so please ask any questions before bidding. I strive for 100% feedback so if there are any issues please let's sort them out before feedback is left. Also, if you buy any graded coin check it's authenticy with the grade company. My local coin salesman said really good counterfeits are being produced in China. Thank you for looking and happy bidding.

So it seems he has found "his man" in the second to last sentence.

ebay is so stoopid at times. >>

I bid on this item. Lucky me, I was outbid and BINed it from a different seller.

coirn · July 14, 2011 1:51PM

Will the fake slabs of today be tomorrow's doily?

BigE · July 14, 2011 2:44PM

Wow frankcoins, simply amazing! Normally I would PM you to discuss, but because you are now a Certified Convicted E-Bayfelon I can have no further association with you-------------BigE

Frankcoins · July 14, 2011 2:55PM

<< Wow frankcoins, simply amazing! Normally I would PM you to discuss, but because you are now a Certified Convicted E-Bayfelon I can have no further association with you-------------BigE >>

I just lost it with that eBay rep, who was obviously reading me a script. My ancestry is Czech, and my grandfather had relatives in the Czech
town of Lidice, which rose up against the Nazi occupation, and Hitler ordered the executions of the male population, with the women and
children sent to concentration camps. He then had the town bulldozed flat.

So to accuse me of not understanding the evil of the Nazis and PROMOTING HATRED is just about the last straw for my Ebay
adventures. And I recently started paying those bas**rds $49.95 a month for a friggin STORE.... GRRRRRR

DuCrozat · July 14, 2011 7:32PM

<< ...so having some young kid in India lecture me about the wrongness of the Nazis made me blow my stack.)... >>

Ironic, because in India, the reversed swastika is looked upon as a good luck symbol.

If you used the Ebay PM function, a word or phrase searcher likely picked up on a key word or two, and you popped up on the radar. The person who asked the question also may have contributed, either intentionally, or because they may have a record on Ebay for policy violations.

Frankcoins · July 15, 2011 3:41AM

<< 

<< ...so having some young kid in India lecture me about the wrongness of the Nazis made me blow my stack.)... >>

Ironic, because in India, the reversed swastika is looked upon as a good luck symbol.

If you used the Ebay PM function, a word or phrase searcher likely picked up on a key word or two, and you popped up on the radar. The person who asked the question also may have contributed, either intentionally, or because they may have a record on Ebay for policy violations. >>

For some reason, I thought the eBay Powerseller discussion forum would have fewer --pardon the expression -- KoolAid drinkers. Other
than one Korean War vet who told me "good for you!" on hanging up on the customer service guy, most of the comments on my
story are "You KNEW what you were doing was WRONG and you DID IT ANYWAY." and that I am indeed a "racist" for mentioning that
the customer service rep was in a foreign country and didn't speak English well, and "being rude is never acceptable."

By the way, I did follow Ebay's advice to check the specific question and anwer forums BEFORE I listed the
item. Time after time, the advice was "Don't use the words Nazi or Swastika....don't show the swastika, cover it up, photo shop it out,
...you'll be fine."

MsMorrisine · July 15, 2011 4:01AM

buying and selling of Nazi stuff on eBay happens all the time

completed stamp listing with Nazi and Swazstika in the title and swazstika showing

completed listing for a Nazi medal with swazstika showing

MsMorrisine · July 15, 2011 4:07AM

ebay has an offensive items page with specifics on what Nazi items can and can't be listed

I notice it says this:
banned:
Uniforms, uniform components, weapons, or other items that bear the Nazi swastika or SS runes

Although allowed:
Stamps, letters, and envelopes displaying Nazi postmarks
Currency issued by the Nazi German government, including military scripts
(the stamps I see have swazstikas on them ??)

this seems to be exonumia of a non-military (uniform) type. I'd have thought it would pass on the numismatic/currency allowances.

I do note they have lots and lots of items with the Dixie Flag on it. and no policy regarding it.

lkeigwin · July 15, 2011 7:54AM

Well that just sucks, Frank. Sorry.

Have you considered writing a letter to eBay? I wouldn't be surprised if your good standing were restored, if it gets to the right folks.
Lance.

dsessom · August 23, 2011 11:53PM

I don't see how being a history fan is racist in any way, shape or form. I am part native american (Apache), but I enjoy historical artifacts from the US Cavalry - even from the time period where they were slaughtering native americans.
I have friends who are of Jewish decent that collect WWI German artifacts. Racism is the ACT of discriminating based on a persons cultural background.

Ebay is slowly slitting their own throats. Their fees have increased to the point that they are ridiculous, and now they want to be the ethics police as well? You did the right thing, Frank.

scotty1419 · August 24, 2011 12:01AM

<< I am confused tho, there are lots of german marks with the swastica clearly shown for sale. What is the difference between those and your medal? >>

These items have yet to be reported.

Seriously, you're fighting a losing battle here. No collector/dealer of ww2 German items uses ebay any more because they can and do classify any german items as prohibited. Sometimes an auction will go through without problem, sometimes it will get canceled AFTER the auction has ended and the transaction completed!

I've seen auctions for helmets (no swastikas) get pulled simply because they were German.

My advice is to list it on your local craigslist page and not to give ebay the money they'd make.

MsMorrisine · August 24, 2011 1:58AM

from what I can understand of the rules, anything pro nazi or pro german military of the nazi era, including uniforms, is forbidden.

a military helmet is part of the uniform, thus is forbidden.

the medal might at first seem pro nazi, but it was just a worker commendation. it's more pro-worker to me, and should be allowed as an exonumia item just as nazi stamps, coins and currency are allowed.

epcjimi1 · August 24, 2011 3:12AM

A couple of years ago I ebayed a WWII Kriegsmarine pair of binoculars with the eagle and swastika on them and on the case, everything plainly visible and encountered no problem doing so, so I guess I got away with it.

Feebay is inconsistent in enforcement of and interpretation of its own policies and procedures. All the more reason to not sell on ebay.

I gave up on ebay in Feb., 2011, too much of a PITA to deal with.

BillJones · August 24, 2011 4:00AM

Unfortunately the picture has been taken down so that we can't note the differences on this counterfeit slab. It would good of PCGS could have an area when these fake slabs could be noted and collectors could make mental notes about them.

pmac · August 24, 2011 5:00AM

I recently purchases an old (pre WW II) Boy Scout medal with a swastika on it with four related emblems within the four arms. I was told before the Nazis took this for their emblem that it was a "good luck" symbol. Will I have difficulty selling this piece?

fake pcgs slabs on ebay

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