Deal on the BST gone wrong avenue7 is the userid

gettyongo12 · May 29, 2011 10:08AM

I did a deal on the BST on May 21st. I sent $900 to the seller on May 22nd for the item. He messaged me that day saying, "Payment received, will ship out Tuesday, May 24th'". After that, I received no tracking number and I have messaged him twice once on May 27th and once on May 28th and received no response. If the guy did indeed ship this priority, I should have it by now, but I don't.

What do you guys think my steps should be?

Edit: I am going to reveal the user. His name is, "avenue7". The post link is here: BST Link. I have filed a dispute through paypal and hopefully should have some closure on this issue soon. Thanks to everyone who have given their suggestions and thoughts thus far!

BAJJERFAN · May 29, 2011 10:10AM

<< I did a deal on the BST on May 21st. I sent $900 to the seller on May 22nd for the item. He messaged me that day saying, "Payment received, will ship out Tuesday, May 24th'". After that, I received no tracking number and I have messaged him twice once on May 27th and once on May 28th and received no response. If the guy did indeed ship this priority, I should have it by now, but I don't.

What do you guys think my steps should be? >>

Has he been signed on since?

coindudeonebay · May 29, 2011 10:10AM

Did you get any references before you put out that money?

gettyongo12 · May 29, 2011 10:11AM

He doesn't have a user-profile and no, I did not get references on him. I did the deal via Paypal with my credit card and I at least know that I'm covered under their buyer protection plan.

llafoe · May 29, 2011 10:12AM

Who is it? If it's a misunderstanding; no-harm, no-foul. If it's not, you may protect some other forum members.

DieClash · May 29, 2011 10:14AM

Depends on how you paid for the item. Paypal, credit card, bank check (not cashier's check or money order) all have fairly simple means to recover your payment from a "bad" vendor/transaction. But since it's only been 8 days since your commit to purchase, I'd personally give it until the end of next week, before getting overly excited. Send another message or call him/her after the holiday weekend. Often times we assume the worst, when there's a perfectly acceptable reason for the "seemingly" lack of responsiveness.

Cheers!

Kirk

NotSure · May 29, 2011 10:14AM

<< He doesn't have a user-profile and no, I did not get references on him. I did the deal via Paypal and I at least know I'm covered under their buyer protection. >>

No offense, but you don't either....BUT, has the member been around long? Also, I hope it wasn't 'gifted' via Paypal...'gifted', and you're sunk....

mrpotatoheadd · May 29, 2011 10:16AM

<< What do you guys think my steps should be? >>

Try contacting him again in the next day or so. It's a holiday weekend- he may be away from home. Also- four days for Priority Mail is not enough time to be sure there's a problem to begin with.

19Lyds · May 29, 2011 10:25AM

$900

Maybe it was sent Registered Mail?

Where is the user located given the Tornadoes in the MidWest?

As long as you paid with PayPal, you should be covered and I for one would simply keep trying to make contact. Perhaps reply to the thread the purchase was made from?

keets · May 29, 2011 10:28AM

What do you guys think my steps should be?

1. sit down and back away from the keyboard.
2. take several deep breaths and relax.
3. wait about a week and report back.

AUandAG · May 29, 2011 10:29AM

Dang, it is a holiday weekend and I'd suspect that he's just taken some time off of the
boards to do his family thingy. Not to worry, grasshopper. At least not yet!

Worry come Wednesday if you have not heard from him and then out him and we'll see
if we can help!!

bob

BaseballAbs · May 29, 2011 11:12AM

Out with his name had we will hang him out! He probably is out for the holiday, give it a few more days.

Coins911 · May 29, 2011 11:16AM

<< What do you guys think my steps should be?

1. sit down and back away from the keyboard.
2. take several deep breaths and relax.
3. wait about a week and report back. >>

illini420 · May 29, 2011 12:24PM

Yeah, I'd give it until Tuesday/Wednesday before getting too worried about it. Best of luck!

robkool · May 29, 2011 12:30PM

I would give it a few more days... Memorial Day weekend you know.

Type2 · May 29, 2011 12:37PM

Yup useing the $900 to have a good time and when he gets back he will see all your PM's and will get back to you, All will be O.K.

RedHerring · May 29, 2011 1:10PM

Since you paid with PP and a CC, I would wait a few more days before doing anything.

Check out BST members before completing any transaction in the future though.

OPA · May 29, 2011 1:26PM

PayPal should be of help if you paid regular and not via the "famous" gift method. No protection there.

ChrisRx · May 29, 2011 2:00PM

$900 will help pay for the Memorial day weekend. Thanks for the dough!

All kidding aside, I would give it a few more days.

Bobbo50 · May 29, 2011 2:05PM

<< I did a deal on the BST on May 21st. I sent $900 to the seller on May 22nd for the item. He messaged me that day saying, "Payment received, will ship out Tuesday, May 24th'". After that, I received no tracking number and I have messaged him twice once on May 27th and once on May 28th and received no response. If the guy did indeed ship this priority, I should have it by now, but I don't.

What do you guys think my steps should be? >>

1: email the seller one final time
2: if he doesn't respond withing 48 hours, file a claim with paypal - that should get his attention!

Bochiman · May 29, 2011 2:06PM

You know it was going to be shipped priority, or you assume it was?
If he shipped it priority, it "should" be there within 3 days, assuming he was able to get it right out.

For $900, he may have shipped it registered, which can take a bit longer (1-2 weeks is not uncommon).

It's been less than 1 week. While it would have been nice of him to send it and send you the info, was that talked about beforehand?
Depending on who the person is, it could be no concern or a concern.

For your next step.....give it a few more business days of patience (did something come up and he couldn't make the post office? If he insured it over $500, then it had to be done at a teller window, I believe....I have to do that with all the ones I send out with insurance over $500).

RedHerring · May 29, 2011 2:14PM

<< If he insured it over $500, then it had to be done at a teller window, I believe....I have to do that with all the ones I send out with insurance over $500). >>

Just a note and FYI: Up to $5000 in insurance can be purchased online at usps.com.

coinman23885 · May 29, 2011 2:52PM

<< What do you guys think my steps should be?

1. sit down and back away from the keyboard.
2. take several deep breaths and relax.
3. wait about a week and report back. >>

+1

ricko · May 29, 2011 11:49PM

I agree with the 'relax and wait a couple of days' advice.... Do let us know how it comes out though. Cheers, RickO

Rampage · May 30, 2011 5:33AM

I live in Florida (northern) and sent a priority mail package to southwest Florida and it took exactly 7 days to get there. I could have been there and back the same day and delivered it myself (well, the gas would have cost a lot more than it was worth). But, it did eventually make it. The deal was with another forum member and we each had dealt together several time, so neither of us were worried about it.

With the holiday, I am sure things got a little backed up. I'd give it till Tuesday or Wednesday as others have said then try to PM him/her again.

gettyongo12 · May 30, 2011 5:49AM

I'll give it another few days. thanks

Bochiman · May 31, 2011 4:24PM

Daily updates?

cartwheel · May 31, 2011 7:48PM

Give it time; I once had the good ole Post Office take 22 days from the day it was mailed to deliver a coin.

Cartwheel

gettyongo12 · June 1, 2011 2:04AM

<< Give it time; I once had the good ole Post Office take 22 days from the day it was mailed to deliver a coin.

Cartwheel >>

Yeah, however, I think I should have at least heard from him by now.

I am going to reveal the user. His name is, "avenue7". The post link is here: BST Link

streeter · June 1, 2011 3:58AM

well he did have a thread on BST on a saint62 locked by SMOTIS until he could provide references and the thread is still locked

Monday February 21, 2011 3:08 PM

Locking thread until references provided

unfortunately you didn't see this earlier issue.

I hope things work out.

derryb · June 1, 2011 4:24AM

Appears you got burned, start the CC claim process. Your gift payment via paypal may be your downfall.

Post paypal account name you sent money to, may not be too late for others.

BAJJERFAN · June 1, 2011 4:46AM

<< PayPal should be of help if you paid regular and not via the "famous" gift method. No protection there. >>

He said he used a credit card. How can you use PP gift with a CC?

derryb · June 1, 2011 4:51AM

<< 

<< PayPal should be of help if you paid regular and not via the "famous" gift method. No protection there. >>

He said he used a credit card. How can you use PP gift with a CC? >>

When there are no funds in your paypal account paypal allows you to fund a gift payment with your bank account (default) or with your credit card (change payment source).

57loaded · June 1, 2011 4:53AM

was mention made in your PM of the nice slab box being sold, too? i just saw original mint box. i hope you get it resolved.

my 2Cents below

i go overboard even an^l when doing a BST as far as conditions shipping, getting cell phone #'s and email addresses. and restating them in each PM with someone i haven't done a BST before.

Casman · June 1, 2011 5:52AM

The scumbag even stole the pic as well...Apparently it was a 69/69/69 set when sold shown in the link below...The enlarged BST photo appears to show 70's?

link

Focus on the background, identical...Hmmmm....

JamesMurray · June 1, 2011 6:01AM

<< The scumbag even stole the pic as well...Apparently it was a 69/69/69 set when sold shown in the link below...The enlarged BST photo appears to show 70's?

link

Focus on the background, identical...Hmmmm.... >>

Well spotted , impressive Sir

lcoopie · June 1, 2011 6:13AM

you were wise to use a credit card

Meltdown · June 1, 2011 6:22AM

Sorry to hear about this. I hope it all works out OK.

illini420 · June 1, 2011 6:27AM

In the seller's BST post they say that "references are available if needed"

I'm guessing you didn't ask for any references though. If it's someone you've never dealt with before, always ask for references regardless of how long they've been on the forum or how many posts they have. But especially ask if it's a relatively new user with a low post count.

Not too big of a deal for you this time though since you should be 100% covered with your credit card, even if PayPal doesn't step up to the plate. Consider yourself lucky!

gettyongo12 · June 1, 2011 7:11AM

His name is Peter Brunsett. I just opened the claim and am going to file a dispute tomorrow if things don't get resolved by this person.

mattniss · June 1, 2011 7:11AM

Sucks that there are some bad apples out there to tarnish the BST reputation. Fortunately, I've only had positive and successful transactions in the past few years on the BST and I hope that these negative events remain far and few between.

19Lyds · June 1, 2011 7:30AM

<< Appears you got burned, start the CC claim process. Your gift payment via paypal may be your downfall.

Post paypal account name you sent money to, may not be too late for others. >>

I see no reference to the OP using payment via PayPal "gift".

Where did you see this?

Bochiman · June 1, 2011 7:58AM

Totally sucks.

One thing that I have done is, unless it is a low amount, I don't buy from new folks (sorry). I particularly watch and see if the seller participates on the coin forums or only the BST.

gettyongo12 · June 1, 2011 8:03AM

<< Totally sucks.

One thing that I have done is, unless it is a low amount, I don't buy from new folks (sorry). I particularly watch and see if the seller participates on the coin forums or only the BST. >>

It sucks but what can one do aside from take the right steps to rectify it. I'm sure I'll have my money back sooner than later.

derryb · June 1, 2011 8:05AM

<< 

<< Appears you got burned, start the CC claim process. Your gift payment via paypal may be your downfall.

Post paypal account name you sent money to, may not be too late for others. >>

I see no reference to the OP using payment via PayPal "gift".

Where did you see this? >>

I read minds and know things that others can only guess at. (seller required it in the locked BST post).

Bochiman · June 1, 2011 8:06AM

<< 

<< Totally sucks.

One thing that I have done is, unless it is a low amount, I don't buy from new folks (sorry). I particularly watch and see if the seller participates on the coin forums or only the BST. >>

It sucks but what can one do aside from take the right steps to rectify it. I'm sure I'll have my money back sooner than later. >>

After the fact? Probably just what you are doing. Work through paypal. Most likely, if a scammer, they pulled the money immediately and are going to try to shaft paypal. Hopefully, you will be made whole by paypal.
Beforehand? Pass on some nice deals until finding a buyer that you can trust a bit more...has been around, does more than just BST if somewhat new, etc.

greghansen · June 1, 2011 8:35AM

Sucks that there are some bad apples out there to tarnish the BST reputation.

Yes it does but I would make two observations.

First the number of bad apples on BST as a percentage of sellers is small as compared to alternative sites like FleaBay.

Secondly, and more importantly, unlike FleaBay who does little to get rid of problem sellers so long as they are generating lots of revenue, the self policing action of the BST crew is unmerciful in outing clowns who don't do what they are supposed to do.

BAJJERFAN · June 1, 2011 8:44AM

<< 

<< Appears you got burned, start the CC claim process. Your gift payment via paypal may be your downfall.

Post paypal account name you sent money to, may not be too late for others. >>

I see no reference to the OP using payment via PayPal "gift".

Where did you see this? >>

What he said. If so then he ate a fee of about $26 too.

morgansforever · June 1, 2011 11:23AM

Sorry to hear, hope it works out.
Nearly 100 transactions on the BST, without a single issue.
Best of luck to you,
Scott

lkeigwin · June 1, 2011 2:32PM

Sorry about this deal gone bad. I hope it works out for you.

I'm unclear about whether this was a PayPal gift or not. If so I think your only recourse is a charge-back through your credit card bank. I imagine PayPal gets smug when you try to collect after gifting.

I've had a hundred BST transactions with never the smallest problem. I've even had coins shipped to me before payment and I've shipped coins before getting paid. But always with established members. I still think it's the safest place to buy and sell.
Lance.

123cents · June 1, 2011 2:57PM

<< Sorry about this deal gone bad. I hope it works out for you.

I'm unclear about whether this was a PayPal gift or not. If so I think your only recourse is a charge-back through your credit card bank. I imagine PayPal gets smug when you try to collect after gifting.

I've had a hundred BST transactions with never the smallest problem. I've even had coins shipped to me before payment and I've shipped coins before getting paid. But always with established members. I still think it's the safest place to buy and sell.
Lance. >>

That's the key. Doing business with established members that have good track records and can provide references if needed.

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