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lsicalsica Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭
Does any other collectibles hobby put so much emphasis on minor differences in grade, or expect pieces that are so old to look so new?
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    JamesMJamesM Posts: 757 ✭
    cars?
    Stamps
    paper money
    guns?
    anything with a 10k+ value?

    Just guesses
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    ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭
    Antiques? Originality is big there, too.
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>Does any other collectibles hobby put so much emphasis on minor differences in grade, or expect pieces that are so old to look so new? >>



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    123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    Comic books
    Baseball cards
    Casino chips
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    fcfc Posts: 12,805 ✭✭✭
    comic books have become just as anal as coins due to tpg grading.. via the sister
    company of NGC. It was so nice before they came along too. The comic hobby was
    not influenced until much later compared to coins.

    now people fuss about .2 differences in grade and the plastic the comic is in.
    just as subjective and doctoring is just as big an issue as before.

    i will give coins one thing though.. the maturity level compared to comic book collectors
    is 1000 times better overall. If you thought this place was somehow bad just go
    ATS to the comic forum there. oi!

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    ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Does any other collectibles hobby put so much emphasis on minor differences in grade >>



    Yes, all of them.

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    COALPORTERCOALPORTER Posts: 2,900 ✭✭
    I think stamp grading is much tougher and def. more illogical than coins gradig , for example, a cancelled stamp with better centering can be worth more than a mint never hinged with poor centering.? The diff. betweem a $10 and $10000 stamp can be really scarry small. image
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    sonoranmonsoonsonoranmonsoon Posts: 2,078 ✭✭
    Just about every collectable I can think of is priced according to condition.
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>I think stamp grading is much tougher and def. more illogical than coins gradig , for example, a cancelled stamp with better centering can be worth more than a mint never hinged with poor centering.? The diff. betweem a $10 and $10000 stamp can be really scarry small. image >>



    Postal History (covers, used stamps, etc.) is big in the Stamp Collecting Community. Coin Collectors were always taught to believe that unused (uncirculated, NO history) coins are better than used (coins WITH history) coins.
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    yellowkidyellowkid Posts: 5,486 ✭
    Condition is everything in most areas of antiques, but nothing like in the coin world.
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    MrBearMrBear Posts: 498 ✭✭✭
    The crazy thing about graded comics is that you might as well just stick them in your SDB and forget about them. Coins can be appreciated virtually as well in holders as they can raw. It's hard to read a comic book when it's sealed in plastic.
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    Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Even we are graded. I'm a MS68 but I look like a AU50. image


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    SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Does any other collectibles hobby put so much emphasis on minor differences in grade >>



    Yes, all of them. >>




    The problems we face with undisclosed alterations and flat-out fakes in numismatics carry over to other types of collectibles too.
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    AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,375 ✭✭✭✭
    Stamps, comic books, baseball cards
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,503 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Does any other collectibles hobby put so much emphasis on minor differences in grade >>

    Yes, all of them. >>

    The problems we face with undisclosed alterations and flat-out fakes in numismatics carry over to other types of collectibles too. >>

    Are there known all out fake comics? I haven't heard of any but now I'm curious to know if any exist.
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    fiveNdimefiveNdime Posts: 1,088 ✭✭


    << <i>Wives
    Girlfriends

    Buyer beware... >>


    i can see why you would want them slabbed image
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    mingotmingot Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Are there known all out fake comics? I haven't heard of any but now I'm curious to know if any exist. >>



    Sure.


    I actually want one of these.
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    RB1026RB1026 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭✭
    Over at our site we deal with all sorts of collectibles. It seems most hobbies put a terrific emphasis on the fine points of grading, with premiums attached to gem mint (like new) pieces.

    When you look at action figures, comics, sports cards, coins, paper money, fine art, antiques etc... a minor difference in grade can mean an enormous percentage difference in price. Collectors generally tend to pursue the scarcest items in any given class. Since condition is typically a major factor in separating like items from each other, with the higher condition pieces being the scarcest, it naturally follows that most hobbies are sensitive to even slight differences in condition. Is it silly? Sure. Is it the reality of collecting? Absolutely image
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    JJMJJM Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Condition is everything in most areas of antiques, but nothing like in the coin world.

    agreed, and this is probably and understatement

    its amazing when you watch antiq road show and a 20K painting "can be easily repaired"

    I think coins are very finite in orignality / grading, more so that others collectables, fixed coins dont work
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    mingotmingot Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Condition is everything in most areas of antiques, but nothing like in the coin world.

    agreed, and this is probably and understatement

    its amazing when you watch antiq road show and a 20K painting "can be easily repaired"

    I think coins are very finite in orignality / grading, more so that others collectables, fixed coins dont work >>



    Coins are not displayed like paintings. This might be why repairing them (and other items) is OK. No one wants a ragged painting on the wall.
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    JJMJJM Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    id rather origanal stuff no matter what is it, jmho
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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,503 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Are there known all out fake comics? I haven't heard of any but now I'm curious to know if any exist. >>

    Sure.

    I actually want one of these. >>

    Thanks for the link. I guess if there's money to be made someone is going to try and make it.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The same goes for marbles... dings or 'repairs' definitely bring down desirability (another word for value).... Cheers, RickO

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