The overabundance of mint products. It'd be nice to have a cent, nickel, dime, quarter, half and dollar for each of the three mints... and NOTHING more!
The greed, big egos, and dishonesty of some dealers.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>The overabundance of mint products. It'd be nice to have a cent, nickel, dime, quarter, half and dollar for each of the three mints... and NOTHING more! >>
All the coins that are minted but not circulated ....I like to keep my Dansco albums updated , not my main focus, but you can't even collect moderns out of circulation anymore !
The rip off National Dealers that use Magazines and Cable Networks to market their Junk. I have been buying from the public for the last 7 yrs. I come across it over and over.
Case in point. Yesterday I purchased a hoard that was acquired over about a 15 yr time period from an elderly gentleman. Multiple sets of state qtrs, framed type sets, vairous sets in great presentation boxes. 24 kt plated coins and stamps etc etc.
All of it packaged and illistrated as if it was worth a fortune. I purchased everything from him, but very little was worth more than face. I paid him face of $1200, of which he had paid over $12000. Those companies prey on the elderly and unknowleageable ......
Get rid of registry points, gpa's, rankings. List collections alphabetically that have images. Show % of completion. Give option to buy a code number to list any company slab in a separate registry catagory for true coin collectors.
This way, I'll be able to show some respect to those collectors who collect really nice coins.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
The pettiness. A bunch of mostly upper income white males and many of them purposely choose to spend a good part of their energy on grudges. I guess some of that is to be expected with a bunch of males with above average incomes, and lower than average social skills, but the pettiness often gets way over done, and tends to spill over to almost every area of the hobby.
The extreme focus on nitty gritty differences on coins as if they were major variants really worthy of notice.... hairsplitting, obsessive-compulsive focus on trivia and meaningless detail. Blecchhh.... Cheers, RickO
The recent examples of dealer groups, grading services, and the ANA to go into full war mode against the LESSER of two problems.
2007 - Which is the bigger problem on Ebay?
1. SEGS and PCI slabs containing genuine coins
2. Totally counterfeit raw coins from China.
The coin community chose #1 as their target, and millions of coins are unsellable on eBay, many sellers received 30 day suspensions for selling them even under the new rules (as I did, when a raghead Ebay "trust and safety" guy interpreted the rules to mean that even showing a PHOTO of a non-approved slab was MENTIONING it, or a VAM number was a numerical grade of a raw coin.) Ebay sent out letters deeming SEGS and other brands of slabs as COUNTERFEIT, ruining the reputations of many sellers,
<< <i>The extreme focus on nitty gritty differences on coins as if they were major variants really worthy of notice.... hairsplitting, obsessive-compulsive focus on trivia and meaningless detail. Blecchhh.... Cheers, RickO >>
The following coin is not the nitty-gritty example your talking about. In fact, since it's an ultimate coin that every true Jefferson nickel collector would love to own, it takes a nitty-gritty individual to recognize it's superior qualities and to understand it's rarity.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
A lot of good answers here particularly with respect to forms of fraud, whether counterfeiting or doctoring. However, an aspect of the hobby that i have found to be a big drawback is the concern over security and theft.
"Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.
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They will never go away. They go back, in spirit, to two collectors comparing their coins. Long before Sheldon "Large Cent Whist" even.
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>The overabundance of mint products. It'd be nice to have a cent, nickel, dime, quarter, half and dollar for each of the three mints... and NOTHING more! >>
<< <i>The greed, big egos, and dishonesty of some dealers. >>
Well at least you chose three things that were mutually exclusive!
The rip off National Dealers that use Magazines and Cable Networks to market their Junk. I have been buying from the public for the last 7 yrs. I come across it over and over.
Case in point. Yesterday I purchased a hoard that was acquired over about a 15 yr time period from an elderly gentleman. Multiple sets of state qtrs, framed type sets, vairous sets in great presentation boxes. 24 kt plated coins and stamps etc etc.
All of it packaged and illistrated as if it was worth a fortune. I purchased everything from him, but very little was worth more than face. I paid him face of $1200, of which he had paid over $12000. Those companies prey on the elderly and unknowleageable ......
Deception, as in counterfeiting and doctoring.
<< <i>Counterfeiting all the way, I wish it would go away forever! >>
Then what would all the plastic surgeons do for a living?
<< <i>Dealers and others that wont buy a coin because of the plastic it is in. >>
That tends to be experience or learned behaviour... or both.
<< <i>Dealers and others that wont buy a coin because of the plastic it is in. >>
Unless that plastic is full of PVC, of course.
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This way, I'll be able to show some respect to those collectors who collect really nice coins.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
<< <i>This way, I'll be able to show some respect to those collectors who collect really nice coins. >>
If you collected really nice coins, they'd ALL be in PCGS slabs!
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<< <i>This way, I'll be able to show some respect to those collectors who collect really nice coins. >>
If you collected really nice coins, they'd ALL be in PCGS slabs!
Does it work in reverse?
"If you have PCGS slabs, you have a really nice coin"
Is this always true?
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<< <i>Third party grading. The business was a lot more fun when the only opinions that mattered were those of the buyer and seller. >>
You mean buyer, seller and doctor.
2007 - Which is the bigger problem on Ebay?
1. SEGS and PCI slabs containing genuine coins
2. Totally counterfeit raw coins from China.
The coin community chose #1 as their target, and millions of coins are unsellable on eBay, many sellers received 30 day
suspensions for selling them even under the new rules (as I did, when a raghead Ebay "trust and safety" guy interpreted the rules to mean that
even showing a PHOTO of a non-approved slab was MENTIONING it, or a VAM number was a numerical grade of a raw coin.) Ebay sent out letters
deeming SEGS and other brands of slabs as COUNTERFEIT, ruining the reputations of many sellers,
Some permanently suspended, (see this typical example) who bought these coins in good faith from legitimate sellers.
You can't find more than 2 or 3 SEGS or PCI slabs on eBay, and those are quickly zapped.
But what did they do about the totally fake counterfeits? NOTHING.
Now today...
Which is the bigger problem in numismatics?
1. Genuine coins in authentic slabs which someone "improved" in ways that may or may not be acceptable
2. Dangerously good counterfeits in dangerously good counterfeit PCGS and NGC slabs.
Ahh, once again they chose #1
Boy, I couldn't disagree more! The Registry has done more for coin collecting than any other single thing since the beginning of coin collecting!
What should go away is BULLION!!!
<< <i>The greed, big egos, and dishonesty of some dealers. >>
The greed, big egos, and dishonesty of some collectors.
<< <i>The extreme focus on nitty gritty differences on coins as if they were major variants really worthy of notice.... hairsplitting, obsessive-compulsive focus on trivia and meaningless detail. Blecchhh.... Cheers, RickO >>
The following coin is not the nitty-gritty example your talking about. In fact, since it's an ultimate coin that every true Jefferson nickel
collector would love to own, it takes a nitty-gritty individual to recognize it's superior qualities and to understand it's rarity.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
Have a Great Day!
Louis
"Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.