newp buried gold ; 1854-s double eagle. opinions please !
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picked up a nice piece of early gold today, comes from a hoard of buried gold coins. please give me your opinion of the grade and do you think there is any chance that pcgs will grade the coin ? thanks !!
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Pretty cool piece if you ask me.
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Maybe NCS-NGC for that? IF you want it "conserved", that is. It has character the way it is.
PCGS would almost certainly "genuine" it, I agree.
<< <i>54-S is one of those special dates because of it's lower denom gold cousins........i absolutely love the date! >>
It's special because it's the first year of the San Francisco mint.
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<< <i>It looks like crap. I like it! >>
Beat me to it!
It's crusty, filthy and has a great story and it's 157 years old. The world does NOT need another stripped out and dipped Liberty head $20.
Leave it alone, it's a very cool item.
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I've never been so lucky. Another buddy of mine (Steve Smith, aka "Millennium" here on CU) found a lovely high grade 1907 $10 Liberty and a 1781 Spanish escudo down on the waterfront here. TWO gold coins, centuries apart in time- the only two he's found in 30-some years of detecting, and he got 'em both on the same site! He said there was lots of lead slag in the ground so the place was a hassle to hunt. As I remember, he also got a lovely Type 1 SLQ there (that one was a 1917, naturally).
I hunted the same area and found a smashed 1980s-vintage digital watch and zip-o-la besides that. Oh, maybe a brown crusty clad quarter, too. Yee ha.
This coin tests my limits of appreciation for originality. The look doesn't do much for me.
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Beat me to it!
It's crusty, filthy and has a great story and it's 157 years old. The world does NOT need another stripped out and dipped Liberty head $20.
Leave it alone, it's a very cool item. >>
I agree. As it is -- yes, it has environmental damage. But that is unusual on a gold coin, and as it is it tells a story. It is special the way it is. It isn't to everyone's taste, but I and several other people who have posted like the look of it.
If you "conserve" it, it will disappear into anonymity along with the tens of thousands of other fugly $20's that have been cleaned over the years, and few people will even give it a second look.
If we put a coin like that in our display case at a major show (as it is), many people will ask to see it and will want to know how it got that way.
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I'd leave it alone and enjoy it if you like this look, or you could sell it to one of those collectors who are in the "crusty" crowd. I love the date because it came from the first year of the San Francisco mint when things there are about as primitive as it got of a 19th century U.S. mint. If it had been a private company in modern times, the feds would have had a field day with employees getting sick on the acid fumes in the place.
I suppose the hoard aspect makes this coin interesting to some, but I’ve never been a fan of “salvage condition.” In other words, I’d never pay thousands of dollars for a crusty, pitted half dollar in a fancy wooden box with "papers" that was salvaged from a shipwreck.
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<< <i>I'm holding the coin in my hands now, and I am confident that it would conserve into a choice AU - while the coin has developed a lot of rust and crust, gold doesn't corrode. All of the staining is sitting on the surface of the coin. That being said, anyone who would "conserve" this coin would be missing the point. It is a terrific piece of history, and ultimately will wind up with someone who appreciates it for what it is. That someone may be me - I really like the piece. >>
Gold does not corrode under normal conditions, but copper does and this piece is made of 10% copper. As to how deep the stuff goes, I don't know how you can know that it is only on the surface. I've seen conserved SS Central America $20 gold coins look like the devil after a few years.
I'd leave it alone, but that's just me.
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