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What are your thoughts on this Native American Dollar error?

Rob790Rob790 Posts: 547 ✭
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Just got this and took some pictures.

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It's struck on a quarter planchet and weighs 5.68 grams. No edge lettering but I'm sure the date is 2009 image

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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭
    It's odd there's no date?
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    mingotmingot Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭
    Extremely cool
    Sell me a coin or three!
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    relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Struck on a quarter planchet?
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    coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It's odd there's no date? >>




    No it's not. The date is supposed to be on the edge, but because this coin is not as large in diameter as it should have been, it couldn't make contact with the edge lettering dies.


    Extremely awesome find!! Did you buy this or pick it out of a bag or roll??




    -Paul
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    Rob790Rob790 Posts: 547 ✭


    << <i>Struck on a quarter planchet? >>


    Yeap, correct weight and color. You can also see the copper core on the side.

    Thanks Mingot!
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    Rob790Rob790 Posts: 547 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>It's odd there's no date? >>



    No it's not. The date is supposed to be on the edge, but because this coin is not as large in diameter as it should have been, it couldn't make contact with the edge lettering dies.

    Extremely awesome find!! Did you buy this or pick it out of a bag or roll??

    -Paul >>


    Yeah, these are like the Presidential Dollar in that the date is placed on it with one of those roller machines.

    I didn't find it, I never gotten that lucky yet. Every now and then I pull a silver coin from circulation. Got it from someone who said they found it in a roll. I don't think these were shipped in bags but I could be wrong.
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    ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Struck on a quarter planchet? >>


    Yeap, correct weight and color. You can also see the copper core on the side.

    Thanks Mingot! >>



    Wow, very nice.
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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very Impressive !

    The First Off Metal of this design
    I've ever seen or heard of ........
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,569 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>It's odd there's no date? >>



    No it's not. The date is supposed to be on the edge, but because this coin is not as large in diameter as it should have been, it couldn't make contact with the edge lettering dies.

    Extremely awesome find!! Did you buy this or pick it out of a bag or roll??

    -Paul >>


    Yeah, these are like the Presidential Dollar in that the date is placed on it with one of those roller machines.

    I didn't find it, I never gotten that lucky yet. Every now and then I pull a silver coin from circulation. Got it from someone who said they found it in a roll. I don't think these were shipped in bags but I could be wrong. >>





    gave it to you or sold it to you?
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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,765 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Got it from someone who said they found it in a roll. >>


    I hope you at least bought him a nice dinner.
    John
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,958 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice!
    TD
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    CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭
    Awesome!!!image I see a CW story and are you gonna submit?
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    Rob790Rob790 Posts: 547 ✭


    << <i>gave it to you or sold it to you? >>


    LOL.... Oh no, my friends aren't that nice.

    Thanks CaptHenway & Casman.

    And thank you FredWeinberg for your invaluable input.

    .
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    PriestPriest Posts: 270 ✭✭
    Rob790, that is really a great find and I'm sure you will get some press on that. Thank you for sharing.
    D.A. Priest
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    tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

    ...WOW!!! VERY VERY image
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,551 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very neat error. What are these worth?

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    itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,787 ✭✭✭
    Congrats. I have never seen a wrong planchet for this design before.
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    Dollar2007Dollar2007 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭
    Was this from a direct ship roll? Does anyone know of any significant errors from the direct ship rolls?
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    CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭
    Bump for those that may have missed...Very cool...
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,036 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is it Unique? Are there more than this one that are known to exist? Fred
    thinks it might be the one and only one yet! I'd get that authenticated
    at PCGS (by Fred!) and get it on the auction block!!

    bobimage
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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,578 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fred, can you assign a ballpark value to it once authenticated?

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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Very neat error. What are these worth? >>



    $20K +/-

    Then again maybe not as it needs to be on a nickel planchet to comand that much... Mint Error News "Off Planchet" Pricing.
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,569 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>gave it to you or sold it to you? >>


    LOL.... Oh no, my friends aren't that nice.

    Thanks CaptHenway & Casman.

    And thank you FredWeinberg for your invaluable input. >>




    given to you would have earned you an immediate "you suck."

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    Rob790Rob790 Posts: 547 ✭


    << <i>Was this from a direct ship roll? Does anyone know of any significant errors from the direct ship rolls? >>



    It was from a mint roll, if that is what you meant. One that comes from a third party wrapper I believe.

    One of the rare Sac mules was found in a mint wrapped roll.... a $250k+ coin!
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    vannvann Posts: 318


    << <i>Very neat error. What are these worth? >>


    1 Million Dollars! (may not buy much soon)

    image

    Very nice, congratulations!
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    Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
    I'm guessing you paid no where near 20K for this coin. image I could be wrong though! Congrats!
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I could be wrong on the price, but I still feel it's a 5 figure error.

    Then again maybe not as it needs to be on a nickel planchet to comand that much... Mint Error News "Off Planchet" Pricing.
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
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    vannvann Posts: 318
    Appears to be well struck and very clean too (MS68 ?), especially for being struck on a planchet that is thinner than a dollar planchet.
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    Dollar2007Dollar2007 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭
    The quality of the strike is surprisingly nice.
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    gonzergonzer Posts: 3,084 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fred, now there's a "Top Ten" coin for your second printing.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Amazing find... it could be possible to find one of these in change... not likely, but possible. More likely it is the only one... Cheers, RickO

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