I have 3: a high luster, proof like, and matte. I can tell you that I truly have no plans to sell and plan to keep them in my long term collection. With 128/132 of the proof like and matte released, it does not take too many more collectors like myself to tighten up the supply even further. Many of these will be closely held and it is interesting to see what that does to the value as long as interest is long term.
Supply and demand will affect these coins just like any other. They could very well be a future collectible above and beyond what Carr intended. For one thing, they are far more realistic than the other replicas (and I'm not just referring to the presence or absence of the "copy" stamp.) The debates here and throughout the numismatic community has also generated buzz, which drives up demand. I must admit even to wanting one myself, though I'm not sure I want to pay the current asking prices. (Famous last word with any rarity.) Love them or hate them, they have a following. And, with a low mintage, they have the potential, ironically, to be more coveted than original, unaltered Peace dollars even getting into the higher grades and rarities.
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As these coins leave the flippers' hands, they will continue to go up in value. Very low mintage on these. The rhetoric that the 15% naysayers keep putting out is viral marketing for the coins. I think once the controversy settles down, they will level off in price.
There is no "AT" or "NT". We only have "market acceptable" or "not market acceptable.
<< <i>I'll be keeping all of mine, just still waiting on the matte proof coins to get shipped. >>
I was temporarily behind on shipping due to the weather and equipment problems that I was preoccupied with. But all "1964-D" over-struck Peace Dollars have been shipped as of Friday.
<< <i>I'll be keeping all of mine, just still waiting on the matte proof coins to get shipped. >>
I was temporarily behind on shipping due to the weather and equipment problems that I was preoccupied with. But all "1964-D" over-struck Peace Dollars have been shipped as of Friday. >>
Now that the 64's are done, when are you going to start on the rest of the early 60's?
the D.Carr Peace Dollar controversy will seemingly never end ........... lets get them all to the top until everyone has has their fill and are plumb sick of the issue
<< <i>Would the bulk handled make this a 6 coin set?
if so, do I have to bang around one of my extra high luster ones to make my set complete? >>
No, the "Bulk Handled" coins are just a lower-grade version of the Die 5 and Die 6 "High Luster" coins. But you could always make a "grading set" if you have enough of them
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Looks like the Royal Oak Mint is trying to copy the Carr coins. At least they put COPY on theirs. But Ken Potter is selling those for $80 on a month-long BIN.
<< <i>Looks like the Royal Oak Mint is trying to copy the Carr coins. At least they put COPY on theirs. But Ken Potter is selling those for $80 on a month-long BIN. >>
If theirs is a copy of Dan's work, then they better put "COPY" on them. Otherwise, collectors of Carr's coins could be duped into buying a fake!
<< <i>I will never understand why a collector would want a piece of junk like this in his or her collection. >>
I could explain it to you but you wouldn't understand.
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<< <i>Looks like the Royal Oak Mint is trying to copy the Carr coins. At least they put COPY on theirs. But Ken Potter is selling those for $80 on a month-long BIN. >>
If theirs is a copy of Dan's work, then they better put "COPY" on them. Otherwise, collectors of Carr's coins could be duped into buying a fake! >>
If it's a copy of DCarr's 1964-D, then they'll need to put 'COPY COPY' on theirs... No wait, DCarr didn't put 'COPY' on his 1964-D!
<< <i>Looks like the Royal Oak Mint is trying to copy the Carr coins. At least they put COPY on theirs. But Ken Potter is selling those for $80 on a month-long BIN. >>
FYI..He's been selling his long before D Carr's copies came on the market....
"Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
Too vague... Royal Oak Mint aren't copies of DCarr or aren't copies of original 1964-D Peace dollars? ... or DCarr's aren't copies of Royal Oak Mint or aren't copies of original 1964-D Peace dollars? ... or Royal Oak Mint aren't copies of DCarr's copies of original 1964-D Peace dollars?
Too vague... Royal Oak Mint aren't copies of DCarr or aren't copies of original 1964-D Peace dollars? ... or DCarr's aren't copies of Royal Oak Mint or aren't copies of original 1964-D Peace dollars? ... or Royal Oak Mint aren't copies of DCarr's copies of original 1964-D Peace dollars? >>
Yes
"Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
It is not his original design, so they are copies of the U.S. Treasury's design that was used to strike 1964-D Peace dollars.
Oh yes........and the parrot is dead also. Quit saying it isn't.
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From Wikipedia: "Greed is an excessive desire to possess wealth or goods with the intention to keep it for one's self. Greed - like lust and gluttony - is a sin of excess. Greed is inappropriate expectation. However, greed is applied to a very excessive or rapacious desire and pursuit of wealth, status, and power.
As a secular psychological concept, greed is an inordinate desire to acquire or possess more than one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth."
I simply cannot see greed in the 1964-D Peace Dollar resale equation nor ANY other coin collector/dealer transaction(s).
To imply that selling a coin for a profit is greed is just silly since profits IS the method of business to insure its survival. It's Capitalism at its best and believe it or not, profit is what keeps the economy going. If no profits were made, the economy would stagnate. Nobody works for free and EVERYBODY has the desire to better their position in society by seeking financial independence and security. Whether its from buying and selling homes or expecting that annual pay increase.
If I am beset with greed for selling a 1964-D Peace Dollar for more than I paid for it, then I must be just as beset with GREED for selling a Doubled Die coin I found at face value. I'll pick the best possible price which the buyer either agree's to or doesn't, but why on earth would I sell it for face value? I might give it to a friend or offer a reduced price for an acquaintance but the point is that the piece has value and I know. It does not matter that I acquired it at face value.
If selling a coin for a profit is greed, pure and simple, then I guess certain members on this forum are just as greedy as I because lots and lots of them "cherrypick" and then "resell" for a profit. Whether its a 2008 Reverse of 07 Silver Eagle or an Error in a proof set.
Each and every person that sold a Missing Edge Lettering Washington Dollar is guilty of GREED! Grade does not matter! If it sold for more than it cost then the seller is GREEDY!
The entire point of my post being, GREED and PROFIT should not be confused as greed is a state of mind whereas profit is required for any business transaction. I personally prefer to view the 1964-D Peace Dollar situation more as an "opportunity" for incurring some profits. The exact same motiviation was used when ordering additional 2008 Silver Eagles which I SHAMELESSLY sold for $200 each. (In a matter of minutes).
If folks still feel that the reselling of DCARRs coins is purely GREED motivated or the true definition of GREED, then I guess that makes me just as greedy as the rest of you that ever sold any coin for a profit.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
It's Capitalism at its best and believe it or not, profit is what keeps the economy going. If no profits were made, the economy would stagnate. Nobody works for free and EVERYBODY has the desire to better their position in society by seeking financial independence and security. Whether its from buying and selling homes or expecting that annual pay increase.
If you learn the ropes, get yourself educated, do the right things and work hard - then you should be rewarded for what you do. Risking your hard-earned money on a *speculation* that you think should gain in value - that's not greed - that's trying to preserve what you worked hard for in the first place. If the speculation turns out poorly, there is no "safety net" and it's nobody's business that you decided to take the risk in the first place, nor is it anybody's business if you profit from your knowledge and risk-taking.
If you don't work or if you have the grossly unrealistic expectation that others ought to pay your way all through life - then you should go pound sand, especially if they think that their welfare is being somehow impinged upon by the fact that you make a secondary profit from the money you initially earned through hard work.
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Carr Prooflike
$380
Carr Quad Struck
$415
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Carr Prooflike
$380
Carr Quad Struck
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As these coins leave the flippers' hands, they will continue to go up in value. Very low mintage on these. The rhetoric that the 15% naysayers keep putting out is viral marketing for the coins. I think once the controversy settles down, they will level off in price.
<< <i>I'll be keeping all of mine, just still waiting on the matte proof coins to get shipped. >>
I was temporarily behind on shipping due to the weather and equipment problems that I was preoccupied with.
But all "1964-D" over-struck Peace Dollars have been shipped as of Friday.
<< <i>
<< <i>I'll be keeping all of mine, just still waiting on the matte proof coins to get shipped. >>
I was temporarily behind on shipping due to the weather and equipment problems that I was preoccupied with.
But all "1964-D" over-struck Peace Dollars have been shipped as of Friday. >>
Now that the 64's are done, when are you going to start on the rest of the early 60's?
$405 sold
Die Pair 5, high luster
$330 sold
if so, do I have to bang around one of my extra high luster ones to make my set complete?
<< <i>Would the bulk handled make this a 6 coin set?
if so, do I have to bang around one of my extra high luster ones to make my set complete? >>
No, the "Bulk Handled" coins are just a lower-grade version of the Die 5 and Die 6 "High Luster" coins.
But you could always make a "grading set" if you have enough of them
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<< <i>I will never understand why a collector would want a piece of junk like this in his or her collection.
You have to be a numismatist to fully appreciate it's appeal.
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<< <i>I will never understand why a collector would want a piece of junk like this in his or her collection.
You have to be a numismatist to fully appreciate it's appeal.
Touche!!
<< <i>I will never understand why a collector would want a piece of junk like this in his or her collection.
"My coins are better than your coins!!"
<< <i>Looks like the Royal Oak Mint is trying to copy the Carr coins. At least they put COPY on theirs. But Ken Potter is selling those for $80 on a month-long BIN. >>
If theirs is a copy of Dan's work, then they better put "COPY" on them. Otherwise, collectors of Carr's coins could be duped into buying a fake!
<< <i>I will never understand why a collector would want a piece of junk like this in his or her collection.
I could explain it to you but you wouldn't understand.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>
<< <i>Looks like the Royal Oak Mint is trying to copy the Carr coins. At least they put COPY on theirs. But Ken Potter is selling those for $80 on a month-long BIN. >>
If theirs is a copy of Dan's work, then they better put "COPY" on them. Otherwise, collectors of Carr's coins could be duped into buying a fake!
If it's a copy of DCarr's 1964-D, then they'll need to put 'COPY COPY' on theirs... No wait, DCarr didn't put 'COPY' on his 1964-D!
<< <i>Looks like the Royal Oak Mint is trying to copy the Carr coins. At least they put COPY on theirs. But Ken Potter is selling those for $80 on a month-long BIN. >>
FYI..He's been selling his long before D Carr's copies came on the market....
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>They aren't copies. >>
Too vague... Royal Oak Mint aren't copies of DCarr or aren't copies of original 1964-D Peace dollars? ... or DCarr's aren't copies of Royal Oak Mint or aren't copies of original 1964-D Peace dollars? ... or Royal Oak Mint aren't copies of DCarr's copies of original 1964-D Peace dollars?
<< <i>
<< <i>They aren't copies. >>
Too vague... Royal Oak Mint aren't copies of DCarr or aren't copies of original 1964-D Peace dollars? ... or DCarr's aren't copies of Royal Oak Mint or aren't copies of original 1964-D Peace dollars? ... or Royal Oak Mint aren't copies of DCarr's copies of original 1964-D Peace dollars?
Yes
<< <i>They aren't copies. >>
It is not his original design, so they are copies of the U.S. Treasury's design that was used to strike 1964-D Peace dollars.
Oh yes........and the parrot is dead also. Quit saying it isn't.
<< <i>
Oh yes........and the parrot is dead also. Quit saying it isn't. >>
'es not! 'es just pining for the fjords!
As a secular psychological concept, greed is an inordinate desire to acquire or possess more than one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth."
I simply cannot see greed in the 1964-D Peace Dollar resale equation nor ANY other coin collector/dealer transaction(s).
To imply that selling a coin for a profit is greed is just silly since profits IS the method of business to insure its survival. It's Capitalism at its best and believe it or not, profit is what keeps the economy going. If no profits were made, the economy would stagnate. Nobody works for free and EVERYBODY has the desire to better their position in society by seeking financial independence and security. Whether its from buying and selling homes or expecting that annual pay increase.
If I am beset with greed for selling a 1964-D Peace Dollar for more than I paid for it, then I must be just as beset with GREED for selling a Doubled Die coin I found at face value. I'll pick the best possible price which the buyer either agree's to or doesn't, but why on earth would I sell it for face value? I might give it to a friend or offer a reduced price for an acquaintance but the point is that the piece has value and I know. It does not matter that I acquired it at face value.
If selling a coin for a profit is greed, pure and simple, then I guess certain members on this forum are just as greedy as I because lots and lots of them "cherrypick" and then "resell" for a profit. Whether its a 2008 Reverse of 07 Silver Eagle or an Error in a proof set.
Each and every person that sold a Missing Edge Lettering Washington Dollar is guilty of GREED! Grade does not matter! If it sold for more than it cost then the seller is GREEDY!
The entire point of my post being, GREED and PROFIT should not be confused as greed is a state of mind whereas profit is required for any business transaction.
I personally prefer to view the 1964-D Peace Dollar situation more as an "opportunity" for incurring some profits. The exact same motiviation was used when ordering additional 2008 Silver Eagles which I SHAMELESSLY sold for $200 each. (In a matter of minutes).
If folks still feel that the reselling of DCARRs coins is purely GREED motivated or the true definition of GREED, then I guess that makes me just as greedy as the rest of you that ever sold any coin for a profit.
The name is LEE!
It's not a parrot. It's a rubber stage prop.
I knew it would happen.
If you learn the ropes, get yourself educated, do the right things and work hard - then you should be rewarded for what you do. Risking your hard-earned money on a *speculation* that you think should gain in value - that's not greed - that's trying to preserve what you worked hard for in the first place. If the speculation turns out poorly, there is no "safety net" and it's nobody's business that you decided to take the risk in the first place, nor is it anybody's business if you profit from your knowledge and risk-taking.
If you don't work or if you have the grossly unrealistic expectation that others ought to pay your way all through life - then you should go pound sand, especially if they think that their welfare is being somehow impinged upon by the fact that you make a secondary profit from the money you initially earned through hard work.
I knew it would happen.