This coin is has nice original surfaces I would figure PCGS grade of a Vf30 to 35 (depending on the mood) IMO. Bumping the grade 5 points for orignal surfaces.
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I'd say 35, though a grade of 40 wouldn't surprise me. Remember that the shield pattern in the "no drapery" Seated Dimes was different than the rest of the series, and it wears out *much* faster. A no drapery dime can have a couple letters of LIBERTY missing and still grade Fine, and may be very weak even at the VF-20 level.
The coin looks to me to be XF 40-45. When askin folks to give their opinion on the grade keep in mind that this is a chance for them to show that they have "high standards" I can assure you this coin would never even come close to VF 20. Very nice coin IMO!
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My view based on the knee and drapery and shield wear and the head detail. I say better then vf35 but not quite 40. The reverse lower ribbon seems better then vf35. My guess is that it is in an xf40 holder. Really nice example looks original and in my view an outstanding coin.
I actually think it is a lovely coin and it is from my favorite era of US coinage (1836-1840). The reason I had to laugh at the thread was that I had seen the coin in the BST and had my own opinions as to likely grade and then opened up this thread with the coin fresh in mind. I wasn't laughing at either the coin or the seller; just laughing at the coincidence. Again, I think the coin is smokin' lovely.
Note in particular that one can't compare the shield details or LIBERTY on a post-1839 dime with drapery to a "no drapery" piece of 1837-40. The former will have a lot more detail at the same grade level as the shield details wore much faster on the earlier type. Like the 20-cent pieces, the "three letters of LIBERTY = VG and full LIBERTY = Fine" rule of thumb doesn't work for these.
buy the coin not the plastic, that PCGS '38 is a VF25 NOT an XF40 the op's coin is not quite 10 points higher, if the slab said it was an 1880 would that make it an 1880 ?
here is an XF no drapery P mint dime, the 'low grade opinions" here are honest opinions from people that know seated dimes. one should not compare no drapery obverse seated dimes to drapery seated dimes (as the 59-s that is posted) the strikes are much more shallow and delicate on the no drapery as opposed to the with drapery design. but in the end, grading is not a science so believe what you like, heck call it an MS65 if it floats yer boat.
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Here is a PCGS VF35
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This coin is has nice original surfaces I would figure PCGS grade of a Vf30 to 35 (depending on the mood) IMO. Bumping the grade 5 points for orignal surfaces.
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My guess is that it is in an xf40 holder. Really nice example looks original and in my view an outstanding coin.
<< <i>VF-35 with a decent shot at EF-40. >>
Just what I was thinking.
Edited to add: Here is a PCGS XF40
<< <i>How did I absolutely know what coin this would be the minute I read the title of this post?
Because Sherlock, you're the brightest coin detective here on the boards.
P.S. The coin is most likely XF. VF20 is time to go back to grading school. (Which apparently is where I need to go)
<< <i>It looks like an XF to me, and I can't understand some of the (low) grade opinions I have seen in this thread.
Edited to add: Here is a PCGS XF40
Thanks for the comparison Mark, my coin is definitely more detailed.
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<< <i>From PCGS Photograde XF40: >>
Note in particular that one can't compare the shield details or LIBERTY on a post-1839 dime with drapery to a "no drapery" piece of 1837-40. The former will have a lot more detail at the same grade level as the shield details wore much faster on the earlier type. Like the 20-cent pieces, the "three letters of LIBERTY = VG and full LIBERTY = Fine" rule of thumb doesn't work for these.
here is an XF no drapery P mint dime, the 'low grade opinions" here are honest opinions from people that know seated dimes. one should not compare no drapery obverse seated dimes to drapery seated dimes (as the 59-s that is posted) the strikes are much more shallow and delicate on the no drapery as opposed to the with drapery design. but in the end, grading is not a science so believe what you like, heck call it an MS65 if it floats yer boat.