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A tarnished Buffalo Nickel, (hopefully) for your viewing pleasure..
coinguy1
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Please feel free to guess the grade and the selling price.....
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...65 and no idea on the money. very very nice coin.
President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay
I'll leave pricing up to those who really know the series. But, if it is in a Doily, I'll make an offer!
Drunner
<< <i>I think Buffalo Nickels are one of the hardest series to grade! It seems like each date and mintmark has its own standards in practice. >>
This series and standing quarters, at least for me......I do know that I have a 19S Buff that I grade XF45 that has more detail than this coin, and for $165, was probably a lot less money than this piece. This coin either has high point rub, which puts it at AU58, or it's light toning on the high spots from the old storage medium, which would put it at a 64 or 65 - assuming the strike held it back a bit from an even higher grade.
<< <i>Mark . .that is a super--schweeeet Buffnick and I am going to grade it 66 from the pix. I am seeing some evidence it is a nice (at least decent) strike from the clear LIBERTY and legends on the reverse. Perhaps that just means it is an EDS? In any case, that is a 1-point bumper for eye-appeal.
Drunner >>
Technical grade - MS64
Market grade - MS65
All of this assumes the coin wasn't downgraded for friction on the Buffalo's rump.
I think it's AT,courtesy of "The Chicago Mint".The strike is weak on the Buff's head in front of the horn.NGC might grade it as a 66 Star.Nowadays,
PCGS would "Genuine" it as AT or QT.A few years back,PCGS might have graded that coin as a 65,shot 66.
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<< <i>I think it's AT,courtesy of "The Chicago Mint".The strike is weak on the Buff's head in front of the horn.NGC might grade it as a 66 Star.Nowadays,
PCGS would "Genuine" it as AT or QT.A few years back,PCGS might have graded that coin as a 65,shot 66. >>
As best I can tell, the toning does not match that done by N.C., if that is of whom you were speaking. And the color doesn't appear to be the lest bit questionable, in days/years past or based on today's standards.
The areas on the reverse that have been mentioned by others, are the result of weakness in strike, not wear. While not definitive tells, the abundant luster, lack of disturbances in the fields and on the rims, and lack of similar flatness on the obverse, should serve as good clues that the coin is uncirculated, rather than lightly worn.
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<< <i>I think it's AT,courtesy of "The Chicago Mint".The strike is weak on the Buff's head in front of the horn.NGC might grade it as a 66 Star.Nowadays,
PCGS would "Genuine" it as AT or QT.A few years back,PCGS might have graded that coin as a 65,shot 66. >>
As best I can tell, the toning does not match that done by N.C., if that is of whom you were speaking. And the color doesn't appear to be the lest bit questionable, in days/years past or based on today's standards.
The areas on the reverse that have been mentioned by others, are the result of weakness in strike, not wear. While not definitive tells, the abundant luster, lack of disturbances in the fields and on the rims, and lack of similar flatness on the obverse, should serve as good clues that the coin is uncirculated, rather than lightly worn. >>
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<< <i>I think it's AT,courtesy of "The Chicago Mint".The strike is weak on the Buff's head in front of the horn.NGC might grade it as a 66 Star.Nowadays,
PCGS would "Genuine" it as AT or QT.A few years back,PCGS might have graded that coin as a 65,shot 66. >>
As best I can tell, the toning does not match that done by N.C., if that is of whom you were speaking. And the color doesn't appear to be the lest bit questionable, in days/years past or based on today's standards.
The areas on the reverse that have been mentioned by others, are the result of weakness in strike, not wear. While not definitive tells, the abundant luster, lack of disturbances in the fields and on the rims, and lack of similar flatness on the obverse, should serve as good clues that the coin is uncirculated, rather than lightly worn. >>
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The blue centers lead me to believe it is AT.The narrow asymetric color band is questionable.I agree with other commentators that there is slight wear
on the Buff's hip--and shoulder I might add,and the coin was toned to cover the wear.Despite this,I think that coin can be sold at a premium over it's grade be-
cause of the color.In a 65 holder---$700.00,in a 66 holder---$1,200.00.
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These are nitpicks, but the standard on the 1919 is high--they are abundant.
It's a remarkably lustrous piece, though, and quite beautiful.
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WAG from an arm-chair grader wannbe: MS66+
First of all, I am surprised by the criticisms and lower grades. I don't see this any worse than MS65. I think the obverse is 66 -- really nice strike, great color, no major marks and if that 's a fingerprint, it doesn't look troublesome. Reverse I would guess 65 -- strike is a bit weak at the hip as Joe (crazyhoundog) pointed out and also north and west of the horn but I think nice toning still means 65.
I will guess 65+ (even though I don't see many plus coins in your inventory) and $1050.
I wish you would have sold it to me -- beats my MS65 all day.
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jom
It's pretty, I'll give it that.
Toning is quite attractive. Nothing holding the coin back there, that's for sure.
Strike is good but not great. Shouldn't hold the coin back except perhaps at the highest grade levels.
So it comes down to luster (as usual) for a gem+ grade, and I can't tell at all how good that is from the photos (which accentuate the color).
I'll guess it's all there but a touch muted because of toning and relatively EDS and guess PCGS graded it 66.
The PCGS price guide suggests a price of $1050 in 66, $3k in 66+, and $12k in 67.
I'll guess the price was about half way between 66 and 66+ and the coin sold for $1,900 retail (or a Feldesque hammer of $1,500).
I say the price is $1550
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So, that's my guess, as to the grade: MS65, MS64+, MS66, or perhaps a little beyond.
PS: And I'll bet I got it right...
Graysheet bid is $360.
My client bought it from me for $500.
Depending upon which posts he reads from this thread, he could decide to resubmit it for an upgrade, OR offer to sell it back to me for 25% of what I charged him for it.
Based on the images provided, I believe I would have guessed MS65+ or MS66.
Do I see a very light staple scratch running from the Buff's nose down to the rim at 3:30?
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I do not like the weak strike reberse / rub on the reverse hind quarter of the buffalo...but I LOVE the obverse.
Very nice coin!
I'm sorry----the Indian's nose.
Everybody's got plans--until they get hit
--Mike Tyson
And I think I better stick to XF's and AU's until I learn more about this series!
<< <i>Was the 25% buy-back a misprint? >>
No, it was an attempt at humor, as in, if my client were to read some of the low grade guesses......
<< <i>The coin is in a PCGS 65 holder.
Graysheet bid is $360.
My client bought it from me for $500.
Depending upon which posts he reads from this thread, he could decide to resubmit it for an upgrade, OR offer to sell it back to me for 25% of what I charged him for it.
Based on the images provided, I believe I would have guessed MS65+ or MS66. >>
Your client got a bargain at $500.
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<< <i>Based on the images provided, I believe I would have guessed MS65+ or MS66. >>
Yeah, market-wise, I think it could grade better. As I said, I think it's an easy technical MS65. I guess, market-wise, PCGS didn't take it down for that noticeably weak strike. Or, if they did, they brought it back up for that nice color.
Boy, isn't this market grading fun?