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Natural toning gone Bad.. Big Pics ... New Pics add 1/11
Smittys
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Was incapsulated 100% White, Started Pretty toning, then went to Bad
Don't have a pic of it white. It has set on the shelf for a few years
First set of pics not sure when
Second set of pics 4/09
3rd set 1/11
Don't have a pic of it white. It has set on the shelf for a few years
First set of pics not sure when
Second set of pics 4/09
3rd set 1/11
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Those would be worth cracking out and attempting a quick dip in a fresh batch of solution...couldn't hurt all things considered.
<< <i>Those would be worth cracking out and attempting a quick dip in a fresh batch of solution...couldn't hurt all things considered. >>
but try to only dip the obverse, the reverse looks nice!
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<< <i>Those would be worth cracking out and attempting a quick dip in a fresh batch of solution...couldn't hurt all things considered. >>
What do you mean "Those"? This is one coin, at two points in time! (Check the slab serial numbers.)
Actually, I'd leave it be. It's a really great example of a coin toning in the slab. Do you know when it was slabbed as '100% White'? It would be great to know the timeline here, and what the storage conditions were (i.e. lighting, temperature, humidity, etc.). Also, when was the first pic taken?
Thanks for posting!
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<< <i>I would crack them out and dip them before real damage is done. IMO, that slab add nothing to its value. >>
That depends on your perspective, because the slab is what is causing the toning in the first place. That one looks like it is from just after PCI started its steep decline (14-digit serial number, but still using the green border), and I have seen countless older PCI holders with "white" coins that have toned over time. Most of them look like your first picture, with that burnt orange/rust color transitioning to purple. I admit I'm morbidly curious what other changes are in store for the color on your coin, as it has already progressed further than the ones I've seen.
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I dont think enything good can come after that black toning.
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Just like the older fattie NGC slabs, those older green label PCI holders do cause toning on silver coins over time. More than likely some chemical or process used in the production of those white inner cores.
<< <i>I would crack them out and dip them before real damage is done. IMO, that slab add nothing to its value. >>
<gasp> Are you implying that "toning" will actually DAMAGE the piece?
All them MONSTER toner collectors ain't gonna like to hear that!
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somewhere along the line, they need cracked out, neutralized and reslabbed PCGS or NGC
Seriously, though, until now, I'd never considered the quality of the plastic itself to be in question. Could this be more common than we realize?
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EXACT same coin about 6 months later in the DANSCO:
Coin has been stable at this color for a year or two now.
PCGS opted to call this one genuine, which doesn't really matter to me, I wanted the photo. However, I see many PCI SAE's now residing in PCGS slabs with this tell-tale color scheme that are graded. Some thick like this one, some narrow towards the rim.
<< <i>Mine still look fantastic. Purchased a few years ago and stored in IS slab protectors, the toning has advanced at all. >>
Not sure if I agree with your assessment. Especially the first coin. The obverse appears to have a case of "milk spots."