You cannot forget a coin! I remember this one in Cleveland in 1972 as the coin is hammered!!! The details are spectacular, particularly the hair and star #1. The obverse was simply awesome. If you had to nitpick, the reverse was less spectacular than the obverse but that is the extent of it.
It was in one of those blue WEB (spiderweb) 2x2 square envelopes. Did the envelope come with it?
<< <i>How and why was this coin struck so well, when did it first appear in collecting hands, anyone know?-------BigE >>
My thoughts. I have no knowledge of the history of this coin other that what I read in this thread.
Probably one of the first ones off the press, perhaps supervised by the mint director (maybe a little extra striking pressure?) and captured carefully for presentation to a dignatary or friend as I understand was common in the first few years. Obviously passed down from generation to generation without damage (or possibly stored so well and carefully that it was lost for generations and then found).
<< <i>I believe that I first saw this coin nearly 45 years ago. It was owned by a local man who was a retired coin dealer, Abe Hepner.
He used to bring his pair of half dollars, this and a 1796 out to tease dealers with at shows, and I am told even in his store, although I never knew him when he had the store. He ultimately sold the store to B. M. Douglas.
He would put a price on them, crazy high, $25k, or more. I don't even remember. Maybe it was just 10k, but when you said OK, he would say he would think about it.
He passed away and Lelan got to buy the pair from Mr. Hepner's daughter.
Thanks for the historical perspective - interesting story. >>
The coin is the Norweb specimen. Sure would like to know where the Rogers specimen is though! The Rogers coin has not crossed the block since Numisma '95 >>
I stand corrected on this one. Thanx.
The info written about the Hepner-Rogers specimen is still accurate, however.
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...WOW!!!! what a beaut!!! anyone have a cigarette?
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<< <i>....and I am totally blown away. One of the finest examples of early American coinage that I've ever held in my hands. Perfect semi prooflike surfaces, perfect luster, perfect color, perfect strike [all things considered]:
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Beautiful coin, too bad it was made with such broken dies. Bringing it forward in the thread so that we don't have to go back.
I saw the coin at a show several weeks ago. It was a pleasant reminder that amazing coins like THAT actually do exist. Sometimes, in my day to day dealings, even including some very cool coins, it is easy to forget that fact.
<< <i>I had considered buying the Norweb 1796 that was just in auction to have a nice pair - but Laura didn't really think they were a good match in quality. >>
Well, I have no objection with TDN removing the coin's reverse (looks like when it was auctioned off it had a Connecticut copper's obverse for the reverse) and having it replaced with a more appropriate reverse. No wonder it only sold for less than a million dollars.
<< <i>Well, I have no objection with TDN removing the coin's reverse (looks like when it was auctioned off it had a Connecticut copper's obverse for the reverse) and having it replaced with a more appropriate reverse. No wonder it only sold for less than a million dollars. >>
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You cannot forget a coin! I remember this one in Cleveland in 1972 as the coin is hammered!!! The details are spectacular, particularly the hair and star #1. The obverse was simply awesome. If you had to nitpick, the reverse was less spectacular than the obverse but that is the extent of it.
It was in one of those blue WEB (spiderweb) 2x2 square envelopes. Did the envelope come with it?
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Every picture tells a story. This one reminds me of my poverty.
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Awesome.
Simply awesome.
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<< <i>How and why was this coin struck so well, when did it first appear in collecting hands, anyone know?-------BigE >>
My thoughts. I have no knowledge of the history of this coin other that what I read in this thread.
Probably one of the first ones off the press, perhaps supervised by the mint director (maybe a little extra striking pressure?) and captured carefully for presentation to a dignatary or friend as I understand was common in the first few years. Obviously passed down from generation to generation without damage (or possibly stored so well and carefully that it was lost for generations and then found).
Amazing and rare for a coin to survive like this.
--Jerry
<< <i>There's only one collection that I'd currently pay to see - the Pogues. >>
I've paid to see the Pogues before...
Any one care to put a ballpark $$ figure on it ??
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<< <i>I believe that I first saw this coin nearly 45 years ago. It was owned by a local man who was a retired coin dealer, Abe Hepner.
He used to bring his pair of half dollars, this and a 1796 out to tease dealers with at shows, and I am told even in his store, although I never knew him when he had the store. He ultimately sold the store to B. M. Douglas.
He would put a price on them, crazy high, $25k, or more. I don't even remember. Maybe it was just 10k, but when you said OK, he would say he would think about it.
He passed away and Lelan got to buy the pair from Mr. Hepner's daughter.
Thanks for the historical perspective - interesting story.
The coin is the Norweb specimen. Sure would like to know where the Rogers specimen is though! The Rogers coin has not crossed the block since Numisma '95 >>
I stand corrected on this one. Thanx.
The info written about the Hepner-Rogers specimen is still accurate, however.
I firmly believe in numismatics as the world's greatest hobby, but recognize that this is a luxury and without collectors, we can all spend/melt our collections/inventories.
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...WOW!!!! what a beaut!!! anyone have a cigarette?
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Thank you for posting the image...
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<< <i>There's only one collection that I'd currently pay to see - the Pogues. >>
Rumor has it they have a certain 1804 dollar you wouldn't mind picking up...
OMG ... what an exquisite example!!
You have superlative taste Bruce ... absolutely superlative!!!
Oh, and as always, thanks for sharing!
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<< <i>....and I am totally blown away. One of the finest examples of early American coinage that I've ever held in my hands. Perfect semi prooflike surfaces, perfect luster, perfect color, perfect strike [all things considered]:
Beautiful coin, too bad it was made with such broken dies.
Bringing it forward in the thread so that we don't have to go back.
<< <i>You know my reaction, but you might not know that even my wife was impressed. >>
Your wife looks at coin photos with you? Now there's a keeper!
<< <i>I had considered buying the Norweb 1796 that was just in auction to have a nice pair - but Laura didn't really think they were a good match in quality. >>
So, you listened to her?
Man, look at that detail, and those die cracks, and, and, and...
I knew it would happen.
(PS.....I saw that Julian knew the guy that owned it a few years back and may have offered it for 10-25K. I hope you didn't pay that much for it.)
<< <i>...WOW!!!! what a beaut!!! anyone have a cigarette?
That was funny.
<< <i>Was that coin ever offered at auction? >>
Yes
Though I have no idea WTF is going on with Stack's site and that reverse photo.
<< <i>Though I have no idea WTF is going on with Stack's site and that reverse photo. >>
Many image links had been lost or accidentally switched when Stacks's new web site went live.
<< <i>And I thought mine was nice!! Everything is relative. Is it the finest known? >>
Could you clarify? Finest known what? Finest known coin period? Maybe.
<< <i>Well, I have no objection with TDN removing the coin's reverse (looks like when it was auctioned off it had a Connecticut copper's obverse for the reverse) and having it replaced with a more appropriate reverse. No wonder it only sold for less than a million dollars. >>
Vermont.