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This has been resolved for now with the help of a few members here.


Dan
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    joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,811 ✭✭✭✭✭
    your on a pcgs message board- and pcgs is the most recognized name in the business- why would you send your coins to some no name company?

    do you have insurance... tracking info...? Im not sure how it would help anyway but it might...
    good luck
    may the fonz be with you...always...
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    I sent the coins to them to be sent to PCGS for me.




    Thanks Dan
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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,230 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Best of luck, with this, but I could not find such a company listed in 6 pages of yellow page searches for that address nor company name. How in the world did you even hear of them and why would you trust them?
    Jim

    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
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    STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    Appears to be a UPS Post Box, or something of the sort.
    It was incorporated by Uscala L.L.C., but is currently unincorporated.
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    I was working with a forum member here I will leave his name out of this for now. He states that he is out of state on a family matters ( going on 3 months now ). The address was copyed from a PM. There have been very few PM's and no word if he has sent them in or there sitting somewere or anything.



    Dan
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    STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    Yes, another search just revealed who the individual was you sent the coins to.

    This individual, as far as the forum knows, is an extreme novice in numismatics.
    He was a real character though. (I'm not posting the name of the person/business as per your latest post)

    Edited to add: this individual may have been banned from this forum!
    Edited again to add: I don't believe he is having family issues, or whatever. He has listed items on eBay as recently as yesterday 11/4!
    I'd begin to be concerned. And hopefully these weren't overly high valued coins!
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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,584 ✭✭✭✭✭
    your question would have best been asked before you sent your coins.

    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

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    Thanks Stone. Not sure how you guys track these name's down but it scary guess I need to do my homework better.

    Dan
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    1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks Stone. Not sure how you guys track these name's down but it scary guess I need to do my homework better.

    Dan >>



    Join PCGS and send your coins in yourself. I think it's like $50 per year. It will save you a lot of worrying.
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    partagaspartagas Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭
    Based on stones post, I would suggest its time to get the police involved. I would send a certified letter to the address and state that you demand immediate return of your property or the you will be contacting the police to report stolen goods.
    If I say something in the woods, and my wife isn't around. Am I still wrong?
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A quick google search suggests that the person's initials are B N B .
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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,584 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>A quick google search suggests that the person's initials are B N B . >>


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    SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    NotSureNotSure Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭
    If, in fact, it was BNB, there are 2 things I must say:

    1) I feel like a total sh*thead for giving him a chance at redeeming himself in the 'Future Dealers' thread (or whatever the thread was).

    2) The OP should contact me ASAP
    I'll come up with something.
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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,230 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He is currently posting on the NGC forum as BNBCoins.com username. You might contact him there. Best of luck.
    Jim

    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
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    fastfreddiefastfreddie Posts: 2,961 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Intro-

    He appears to be a real person... >>



    That's scary...I would follow Partagas's advice.
    It is not that life is short, but that you are dead for so very long.
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    joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,811 ✭✭✭✭✭
    homework search on this forum of bnb would have given you a full mouthful as well.
    may the fonz be with you...always...
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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He is alive and well and prospering ATS. He's hard to miss there. He has also been endorsed by quite a few folks. I think you should be able to settle this with him if what you are saying is 100% true. I have no reason to doubt you OTHER then he has many posting on this forum with low post counts on his accord. He has run many rouses. I'm not saying this is one of them, but my antlers are up. Regardless, I'm sure we will be hearing from one of his minions or his alt on this shortly. This has 100 written all over it by 3pm..................MJ
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    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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    No this is not the person I have been working with directly - The member has contacted me and I hope this is resolved.


    Yes I have a low post count --- I have been a member here since 2002 under the name Halfnut and many here can vouch for me. I lost my old password when I changed my e-mail server thus the new name.


    Dan
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    right, it's true. halfnut1 is a great guy.

    edit: changed 'good' to 'great'
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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Trivia- Which Cubbie is striking out on my head right now?




    << <i>BNB has minions?image >>



    and a legion
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    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Righto Dan. I remember you statng so when you came back. Anyways, every BNB thread seems to provide drama and lots of brand new posters to vouch for him. Some are more transparent then others. I'm sorry you got caught up in this one and I'm sure a positive resolution will come your way. Please fill us in if possible when the time is right. All the best. MJ
    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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    pmacpmac Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭
    And you thought you had resolution to your problem. BNB will start the yucksters going on for nearly 100 posts alone. Include mine in there.
    Paul
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    determineddetermined Posts: 771 ✭✭✭
    BNB was also recently put on the Blacklist at CoinForgeryDiscussionList because of this -

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CoinForgeryDiscussionList/message/29996

    Here's the post by Hubert Lanz of Numismatik Lanz

    > I have been mailing on July 7 a $1200,- Athens tetradrachm to a guy
    > called Jarret Jay Casesa (bnbcoins, J. Coins) in Fairfield CT. Already
    > on July 18 he complained that he never received the coin, which has
    > been sitting at his post office since July 15, according to USPS
    > tracking. He got a refund from ebay within 10 days, because I could not
    > show his signature.
    > At the ANA fair in Boston I found, that he was walking the floor with
    > my coin and probably with my money, which ebay USA wanted back from me.
    > He had somehow got the coin without signing for the registered letter,
    > had the coin slabbed by NGC, and thanks to Richard Pearlman and Tom
    > Cederlind and the perfect cooperation with NGC I had the proof of this
    > mail fraud.
    > The Boston police at the show, the USPS clerk, etc. and no one really
    > from ANA was interested. ANA asked me for some payment to make a
    > complaint to its member, great help.
    > It took my good standing as the largest seller of coins on ebay Germany
    > to get this case with ebay US settled. They probably swallowed the
    > $1200,- and left this thief get away.
    > BTW, he discussed in July this coin on this CFDL.
    > Best regards
    > Dr. Hubert Lanz


    For those not familiar with Numismatik Lanz, they are known worldwide as a respected seller of ancient and world coins.


    I don't usually like to add to the pile up on someone but in this case it's warranted.

    The more people know about BNB the better.
    I collect history in the form of coins.
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    TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Intro-

    He appears to be a real person... >>



    That's scary...I would follow Partagas's advice. >>



    Watch the video....you'll never do business with this guy...ever.....the BNB phenomenon!??!

    Tom

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 33,043 ✭✭✭✭✭
    thats scary period. i wouldnt trust him with my worst enemy
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    mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    the story about him ripping off Hubert Lanz should be posted on the other site so they are aware of this.
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    Many members on this forum that now it cannot fit in my signature. Please ask for entire list.
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    determined wrote: "ANA asked me for some payment to make a complaint to its member, ..."


    You've GOT to be KIDDING me?!!!

    that's just great, our ANA shaking people down.

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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>the story about him ripping off Hubert Lanz should be posted on the other site so they are aware of this. >>




    I linked it.

    edited to add- I removed the link. No one cared. I now officially don't care. MJ
    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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    NotSureNotSure Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭
    Is anyone else perplexed that 'bfamilycoin' has/had his first post in this thread? Read some of the other posts he made today....they have a very familiar writing style. Has anyone seen 'him' (BNB) set up at that Laughlin, NV show, before? His paranoia is very familiar to me....he acted this way just prior to coming to Boston (in reaction to knowing I would be there, and seeking him out).

    I now feel I have doo-doo on my face for sticking up for him after speaking with him on the phone, personally (as chance would have it, it was just before his coming to Boston...which he left early...perhaps because of Mr. Lanz). I guess you should always go with first instincts.
    I'll come up with something.
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    NotSureNotSure Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>the story about him ripping off Hubert Lanz should be posted on the other site so they are aware of this. >>




    I linked it. MJ

    We are now linked to the thread ATS >>



    I also linked the yahoo groupo thread where Mr. Lanz called him to the carpet on it.
    I'll come up with something.
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Is anyone else perplexed that 'bfamilycoin' has/had his first post in this thread? Read some of the other posts he made today....they have a very familiar writing style. Has anyone seen 'him' (BNB) set up at that Laughlin, NV show, before? His paranoia is very familiar to me....he acted this way just prior to coming to Boston (in reaction to knowing I would be there, and seeking him out).

    I now feel I have doo-doo on my face for sticking up for him after speaking with him on the phone, personally (as chance would have it, it was just before his coming to Boston...which he left early...perhaps because of Mr. Lanz). I guess you should always go with first instincts. >>



    I was thinking the same, but then again, I'm NotSure. image
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    mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    thanks MJ for posting it on the other site. He's replied about this but not saying much. I think he is going to set up at a show at the LAX or something. Someone should go speak to him face to face about this............
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    NotSureNotSure Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭


    << <i>thanks MJ for posting it on the other site. He's replied about this but not saying much. I think he is going to set up at a show at the LAX or something. Someone should go speak to him face to face about this............ >>



    Unless it's some of the other members he has buffaloed, he'll have security and the plainclothes, working the show, on alert because he'll feel threatened, just as he threatened to do to me in Boston....
    I'll come up with something.
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    CoinCrazyPACoinCrazyPA Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭✭
    Here is the full text of the post:


    I have been mailing on July 7 a $1200,- Athens tetradrachm to a guy

    called Jarret Jay Casesa (bnbcoins, J. Coins) in Fairfield CT. Already

    on July 18 he complained that he never received the coin, which has

    been sitting at his post office since July 15, according to USPS

    tracking. He got a refund from ebay within 10 days, because I could not

    show his signature.

    At the ANA fair in Boston I found, that he was walking the floor with

    my coin and probably with my money, which ebay USA wanted back from me.

    He had somehow got the coin without signing for the registered letter,

    had the coin slabbed by NGC, and thanks to Richard Pearlman and Tom

    Cederlind and the perfect cooperation with NGC I had the proof of this

    mail fraud.

    The Boston police at the show, the USPS clerk, etc. and no one really

    from ANA was interested. ANA asked me for some payment to make a

    complaint to its member, great help.

    It took my good standing as the largest seller of coins on ebay Germany

    to get this case with ebay US settled. They probably swallowed the

    $1200,- and left this thief get away.

    BTW, he discussed in July this coin on this CFDL.





















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    Quality First, lol

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