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New Roosevelt Dime variety found.....to be hits not a variety
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At least new to me. Anyone else having one or seen one please let us know.
Introducing the "Supertorch" and me, Jon, the very hopeful "Discoverer"! I Cherry Picked this recently and figured I would share my find with the forum.
This is obviously labeled incorrectly by our friends at NGC. It is labeled as a 1948 in MS 66 FT but I believe it to be a 1948-S MS 66 FT Supertorch variety. As you can see in the image there is an "S" in the torch 180 degrees from where it should be.
I sent a pic of my 1948 with "S" in torch to Bill Fivaz and he wants to see it.
I would like to thank fellow forum member (STONE) who suggested I call it "Supertorch" because there is a 1952 proof quarter with an "S" in the eagles breast that is called "Superbird".
I hope everyone enjoys it as much as I do.
Introducing the "Supertorch" and me, Jon, the very hopeful "Discoverer"! I Cherry Picked this recently and figured I would share my find with the forum.
This is obviously labeled incorrectly by our friends at NGC. It is labeled as a 1948 in MS 66 FT but I believe it to be a 1948-S MS 66 FT Supertorch variety. As you can see in the image there is an "S" in the torch 180 degrees from where it should be.
I sent a pic of my 1948 with "S" in torch to Bill Fivaz and he wants to see it.
I would like to thank fellow forum member (STONE) who suggested I call it "Supertorch" because there is a 1952 proof quarter with an "S" in the eagles breast that is called "Superbird".
I hope everyone enjoys it as much as I do.
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Sean Reynolds
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The mark to the right is just a small hit.
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<< <i>The mark to the right is just a small hit. >>
Wow, it sure looks like another, but your the one who has it in hand, congrat's!
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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Greg
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
Congrats!!
-Paul
Actually, it looks a heckuva lot stronger than the so-called Superbird quarter.
Nice job!
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
That is ubber cool.
I want one and I will look until I find one myself.
Great job.
unless I am not looking the correct location
can you circle it or place an arrow pointing to it for the unimaginative people like me?
<< <i>Let me give you a major congrats on this one.
That is ubber cool.
I want one and I will look until I find one myself.
Great job. >>
Good luck! It only took 62 years for this to be found!
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
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<< <i>Let me give you a major congrats on this one.
That is ubber cool.
I want one and I will look until I find one myself.
Great job. >>
Good luck! It only took 62 years for this to be found!
But now it will be looked for.
Just ask my kids how persistent I can be....
It is definitely a "S"
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as the area would quickly become obliterated from normal die wear.
so that coin may be unique for the most part
<< <i>looks like a dropped filling but if it is, theres little chance of finding another
as the area would quickly become obliterated from normal die wear.
so that coin may be unique for the most part >>
This isn't an S mint coin and there are no other S's with that font size except maybe the designer initial on the obverse.
it aint no mint mark thats for sure.
so maybe there some `48 roosies with just a `j ` for the designers intials?
I think you are correct, the "S" in the initials does match the size and the "S" in the torch is too small as compared to other "S" mintmarks, either way Jon.......NICE FIND...
I will let Bill Fivaz see it and see what he says.
What else would be punched into the die except for a mint mark?
-Paul
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
<< <i>The 's' in the initials is a very different shape than the 's' mint mark in the torch, not sure why that is being discussed as a possibility. >>
The shape is only slightly different, which is to be expected given the way these dropped letters occur.
-Paul
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
either way, still a very nice find and congrats dimeman!
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<< <i>keyman, how about rotating the 's from initial' 180 degrees...looks like maybe it would line up better
either way, still a very nice find and congrats dimeman! >>
Here it is with the torch 's' rotated 180 degrees...still a very different 's' IMO.
Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
Raised letters and devices, like the designers initials on this dime, are incuse in the die. When grease or other minting gunk gets clogged up in those letters and devices, sometimes they can become compacted and then fall onto the surface of an unstruck planchet. Then, when the dies come together, there is a incuse letter left on the finished coin.
Feel free to add to or correct me on anything in there.
-Paul
Tough crowd.
If you send it to Bill Fivaz, please use a mailer and seal it well.
President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay
Whatever it is.......it sure is different. Would a drop letter be a variety or just another coin down the toilet!?
<< <i>Hey, it's OK. Everybody is giving their opinion, which is what the thread is for. It could be a dropped letter, I guess. I will let Bill Fivaz see it and go from there.
Whatever it is.......it sure is different. Would a drop letter be a variety or just another coin down the toilet!? >>
Jon,
If a dropped letter it is still cool, just not as cool as if it is a misplaced mint mark. I hope it is a misplaced mint mark, and by you stating it is raised there is a good chance it is. A dropped letter should be flat.
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Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner.
Jim
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A dropped letter would be incused in the coin. This is not a dropped letter. I do not know what it is, but I do know that it is not a dropped letter.
TD
<< <i>looks like a dropped filling but if it is, theres little chance of finding another
as the area would quickly become obliterated from normal die wear.
so that coin may be unique for the most part >>
I'm with Cam on this.
It is incuse.
Jon's Supertorch show a raised letter.
President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay
The letter-like object on the dime is raised. See how the light falls ON it.
TD
The so called "S" is way to small to be a miss placed mint mark. I don't know what it is but I'm pretty
sure it's not an MPM. Still a cool find.