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About a month ago a friend/customer came in asking about Ameros....


He had heard about them from someone and had no clue as to what they were, I told him about Dan Carr and the Moonlight Mint's website....and that he creates Fantasy Coins which I have a few of so I showed him a couple...well he walks in tonite with a package he got still sealed from Dan (Moonlight Mint) says gotta beer and we'll open this up........

This guy went on a shopping spree.......see pics !

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    SCDHunterSCDHunter Posts: 686 ✭✭✭
    Nice looking lot!

    I immediately noticed the 1964 Peace Dollar. Do ya think its real?image
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,542 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a very nice looking Peace dollar there.image

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    nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭
    IMHO: junk.image
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lets hear some more about the beer! imageimage
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    coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,781 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wanna know if there was beer? Did you crack a few beersimage
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,504 ✭✭✭✭✭
    looking for a commission??!?
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    Looks like he's got:
    -two 1964-D fantasy Peace dollars
    -three copper One Ameros, maybe one is prooflike
    -one silver Twenty Ameros
    -two gold Five Hundred Ameros
    -satin and prooflike silver Mexican (Bi)Centennials
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    wanna know if there was beer? Did you crack a few beers

    Yes....of course, I'm still crackin...image
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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Daniel's work is outstanding. MJ
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,504 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did you also show him the HSN 2009 Proof-likes?

    If ya like the 64D's.....
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,542 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>IMHO: junk.image >>



    That's rather harsh. image

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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is still very hard for me to believe that people spend money on this stuff...holey crap, an entire shopping spree. Ugh!
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    TomBTomB Posts: 22,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It seems like he purchased quite a bit. Since he himself had never heard of these pieces, I would imagine that he realizes he may make good gains, but might also now be participating in what might be a very limited market.
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    He's got 1/9th of that gold mintage. Gotta be a winner!
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    coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,781 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>wanna know if there was beer? Did you crack a few beers

    Yes....of course, I'm still crackin...image >>









    I want pics so I can feel like I'm there image
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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,350 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dont try to guess the future value of these pieces. You could be very very wrong.

    Dan is a "tastemaker" in that what he produces has a following, and creates its own market. Someday QDB will write a book about him..of course, Dave will be 117 years old then.
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,900 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Daniel's work is outstanding. MJ >>




    Daniel's original work is outstanding.
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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Daniel's work is outstanding. MJ >>



    Daniel's original work is outstanding. >>



    and his Fanatasy work as well. Now that we have that settled. Beer meimage MJ
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    ecichlidecichlid Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Daniel's original work is outstanding. >>



    I disagree. I think his original designs are fun but a bit lacking in artistic inspiration. A bit two dimensional. More like simple line drawings. I think Mr. Carr is more of a technician. It's no surprise his Peace Dollar looks so darn good.
    There is no "AT" or "NT". We only have "market acceptable" or "not market acceptable.
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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Daniel's original work is outstanding. >>



    I disagree. I think his original designs are fun but a bit lacking in artistic inspiration. A bit two dimensional. More like simple line drawings. I think Mr. Carr is more of a technician. It's no surprise his Peace Dollar looks so darn good. >>



    That's the cool thing about art. To each is own. As a designer I aslo have my critics and fans. I try to appease neither. I find Daniel's themes and execution stimulating. I will say one thing, I wish in my field there were forums like this. MJ
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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,350 ✭✭✭✭✭
    go ahead.

    You design some coins.

    let us know how you make out with all that.


    One of my favorites. (I own 8% of the mintage)

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    mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,560 ✭✭✭
    D Carr should send all forum members a free Amero. He's gotten great publicity from this site.
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    ecichlidecichlid Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭


    << <i>go ahead.

    You design some coins.

    let us know how you make out with all that. >>


    I'll get right on it chief.
    There is no "AT" or "NT". We only have "market acceptable" or "not market acceptable.
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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,502 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>IMHO: junk.image >>



    Jealous much!!!
    Daniel is a forum icon.....his talents are amazing.
    Opposing opinions are part of this forum, but aren't you being a bit harsh as Perryhall said!!!
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It seems like he purchased quite a bit. Since he himself had never heard of these pieces, I would imagine that he realizes he may make good gains, but might also now be participating in what might be a very limited market. >>

    Someday, folks WILL seek this stuff out as Daniel is not just another fellow with a coining press.

    After all, he has a history as a designer with the US Mint and does create some nice coins, tokens, and what nots. He's already written into Numismatic History and regardless of what occurs in the future, that history will always be there.
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Drinking and web shopping does not mix. I'm glad he waited until afterward to start. imageimage
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    ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>go ahead.

    You design some coins.

    let us know how you make out with all that.


    One of my favorites. (I own 8% of the mintage)

    imageimage >>



    I own one of these trade dollars as well, a very cool design.

    I also own an Amero 20 dollar coin and what I really like about the peice is it made the right wing nuts go crazy and delusionalimage
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    << <i>D Carr should send all forum members a free Amero. >>



    Cool! Free Ameros for everyone!
    Free beer tomorrow.
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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,350 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He has a certain artistic style, which I assume is part talent driven and part software driven....but I think he cant go wrong sticking with what works for him.

    NEXT, Id like to see a big slug. A nice huge octagonal gold slug. With a mintage of like 12, sold a bit over spot...that would be a sure winner.
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    Did you also show him the HSN 2009 Proof-likes?

    No, and to tell the truth tonite was the first time that I had seen any of the coins pictured in my thread in person, including the 64 D, I don't have one yet!
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    << <i>

    << <i>Daniel's original work is outstanding. >>



    I disagree. I think his original designs are fun but a bit lacking in artistic inspiration. A bit two dimensional. More like simple line drawings. I think Mr. Carr is more of a technician. It's no surprise his Peace Dollar looks so darn good. >>





    i disagree. i happen to think a lot of his work is WAY better than most of what the mint has been putting out in the last 60 years.

    my only regret is i didn`t buy his hard times tokens but i will pick them up in the aftermarket.

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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,162 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It is still very hard for me to believe that people spend money on this stuff...holey crap, an entire shopping spree. Ugh! >>



    You wouldn't be making that comment if you only knew how strong the aftermarket is for his fantasy pieces. They spend money on classic stuff don't they?
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    << <i>He has a certain artistic style, which I assume is part talent driven and part software driven....but I think he cant go wrong sticking with what works for him.

    NEXT, Id like to see a big slug. A nice huge octagonal gold slug. With a mintage of like 12, sold a bit over spot...that would be a sure winner. >>



    sign me upimage
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    RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    Gaaak!
    Fifth grade "art" class debris, and a counterfeit silver dollar. Look at the FIDEM medals if you want to see real medallic artists' work. Visit Fédération Internationale de la Médaille d'Art. [www.fidem-medals.org]
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    SCDHunterSCDHunter Posts: 686 ✭✭✭
    This is gorgeous design! Why were there only 45 of minted?image

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    edix2001edix2001 Posts: 3,388


    << <i>Gaaak!
    Fifth grade "art" class debris, and a counterfeit silver dollar. >>



    Here we go again with the sadistic insults. See a shrink, pal!
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    edix2001edix2001 Posts: 3,388


    << <i>This is gorgeous design! Why were there only 45 of minted?image >>



    I think the die began to deteriorate.
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    PCcoinsPCcoins Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This is gorgeous design! Why were there only 45 of minted?image

    image >>



    Seriously? That's one ugly coin IMO. To each his own.
    "It is what it is."
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    LotsoLuckLotsoLuck Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭
    I'm glad I am not a coin collecting "purist". DCarr is doing things nobody else on the CU is doing. Maybe jealousy on behalf of some? I'm jealous alright, because I dont have the equipment, knowledge or skill to do what DCarr does. Regardless of the many folks here who disapprove (64-D or otherwise) My vote remains the same and always will, you go Daniel Carr image
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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Gaaak!
    Fifth grade "art" class debris, and a counterfeit silver dollar. Look at the FIDEM medals if you want to see real medallic artists' work. Visit Fédération Internationale de la Médaille d'Art. [www.fidem-medals.org] >>



    That was one of the most mean spirited comments I've ever read on these boards. MJ
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    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It is still very hard for me to believe that people spend money on this stuff...holey crap, an entire shopping spree. Ugh! >>



    Some people think it is totally strange to ever spend more than face value for a coin, any coin - no matter what it is.
    Those people are wrong, of course image
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    rooksmithrooksmith Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have to admit it - I like the idea that there are still INDEPENDENT mints out there.

    Its gotta be one of the coolest hobbies ever. But then , Daniel is a PROFESSIONAL.

    Critics of this art should ask - could you do better?

    Did you know he's the designer of the NEW YORK (and other) state quarters?

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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This is gorgeous design! Why were there only 45 of minted?image

    image >>



    Well, the rims didn't strike very well at all (relief was too high), the die chipped along the rim in a couple places, and I didn't like the Curry portrait (among other things). I did this as a speculative proposal for the Carson City Coin Collectors of America ("C4OA") coin club. I was really in a rush to get it made for the proposal. The project never went forward and I never spent the time necessary to refine the portrait and other aspects of it. But I think it does look a little better when "circulated" with the right color image :

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    PS:
    Abe Curry founded the City of Carson City, then went on to become director of the Carson City Mint. The first coin struck at the mint was the 1970-CC Seated Liberty dollar. For the map I used real Digital Elevation Model (DEM) data from the US Geological Survey (USGS). The map shows the location of Nevada's Capitol, the state border across Lake Tahoe, and at the upper right is the location of Virginia City and the Comstock Lode (where pick & shovel cross).
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    rooksmithrooksmith Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dan,

    This Carson City design is very interesting, and tonight at least, hot!

    Do you think theres opportunities for restrikes with the bad dies?

    (Though I liked the Tessla designs and others more).

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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Dan,

    This Carson City design is very interesting, and tonight at least, hot! (Though I liked the Tessla designs and others more).

    Do you think theres opportunities for restrikes with the bad dies? >>



    The dies went (literally) into the "rust bucket" long ago. I could engrave totally new dies. But 2008 is long past, so no.
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    ArizonaJackArizonaJack Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭
    Perk !
    Did somebody say beer?
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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It certainly is "interesting" to read the comments here and to interact with critics and collectors alike. I remember back in 2007 when I first came out with the Amero coins and the various death threats I received (from wacko Hal Turner listeners, I think). And now there is speculation by some of a future "penitentiary" residence. Who would have ever thought making coins would be so dangerous ? Good thing I have a thick skin. I like what I do and I'll keep doing it. If some feathers get ruffled along the way, then so be it.

    I have a style that is generally "geometric" because I like it that way, but not all the designs are so. Here are a few of my own favorites:

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    Are you at all concerned about promoting the whole Union of North America concept?
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    edix2001edix2001 Posts: 3,388


    << <i>I remember back in 2007 when I first came out with the Amero coins and the various death threats I received (from wacko Hal Turner listeners, I think). And now there is speculation by some of a future "penitentiary" residence. >>



    Quite an accurate comparison. Violence in an attempt to control others exists on an escalating scale from put downs to murder. And it stems from the perpetrator's own personal sense of inadequacy. Scratch a sadist and you find a masochist. Every bully is a coward in disguise.
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    MrBearMrBear Posts: 433 ✭✭✭
    I wish I'd gotten one of the Tesla coins. Tried to game eBay when Dan sold that batch last year. Gamed and lost. :-p
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